Destiny Takes GOTY, Confuses Audience, at This Year's BAFTAs
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So... that's some confusing winners. I guess? I didn't even know Farcry 4 had original music.
But Ashley Johnson won something - which I think is good. She's kind of a young voice on the scene and I'd like her to get more jobs, as voice actors for games are becoming a fairly narrow group.
As in "Oh, this is X doing this character. S/he is great - now I know this will be well acted" is getting more and more apparent as you play. Not saying that's bad, as they're all skilled actors (the recognizable ones), but it's nice to see a few more less familiar voices get hired for large roles.
But Ashley Johnson won something - which I think is good. She's kind of a young voice on the scene and I'd like her to get more jobs, as voice actors for games are becoming a fairly narrow group.
As in "Oh, this is X doing this character. S/he is great - now I know this will be well acted" is getting more and more apparent as you play. Not saying that's bad, as they're all skilled actors (the recognizable ones), but it's nice to see a few more less familiar voices get hired for large roles.
Destiny is a really great game in many respects, but woefully incomplete in others. I don't know if there's ever been a game where the people playing it are constantly complaining about things it doesn't have, but then come back the next day to do it all over again.
The story is nonexistent - but the lore is incredible.
The raids are the coolest thing ever - but the other missions are incredibly bland.
The locations are beautiful - but you can't do anything in them but shoot things.
The Exotics are cool - but every other gun is bland, lifeless, and looks the same.
Honestly, if a game like Battlefield 4 can reinvent itself to fix inherent flaws, Destiny surely can simply start using all the features that're already in the game, and become GOTY potential. But right now, it's a whole lot of meh.
The story is nonexistent - but the lore is incredible.
The raids are the coolest thing ever - but the other missions are incredibly bland.
The locations are beautiful - but you can't do anything in them but shoot things.
The Exotics are cool - but every other gun is bland, lifeless, and looks the same.
Honestly, if a game like Battlefield 4 can reinvent itself to fix inherent flaws, Destiny surely can simply start using all the features that're already in the game, and become GOTY potential. But right now, it's a whole lot of meh.
David Braben: Who also created the concept of open world games, procedural creation and pioneered the entire space sim genre. David Braben who worked on the cheap and affordable educational tool known as the Raspberry Pi, which many use as an emulation machine to relive games of the past and help make the barrier to entry for future coders (But why would the vidja garm industry need those... Ubisoft doesn't seem to. AMIRITE?). Lest we also forget Frontier Development also worked on the zenith of a game that was RCT3 which still has an active modding community and player base to this day.hermes200 said:
You take jobs like Kinectimals and Disney Land Kinect Adventure to pay the bills so you can make RCT3 and Elite: Dangerous.
Whatever you think of his past works, what he has done for the Video Games industry is truly remarkable. That is why he was awarded a fellowship.
Our entire empire was built upon the rich being off their face on opium, and the poor being wasted on gin. We are nothing without our drugs.Denamic said:
That said the videogames part of the BAFTA's is fucking awful.
Well that is one shitty decision.
I mean Destiny has very good gun feel, high production values (graphics fidelity) and nice music but that?s it and it is not even remotely enough to make it a very good game.
It is decent, it is not bad. But with the utter lack of story, characters, social features, odd RNG implementation, restrictive progression system etc. etc. it can?t be good enough for a GOTY award unless you have really shitty taste.
If anything Destiny should be awarded the ?everything that?s wrong with today?s videogames? award? but even then Order 1886 is pretty hard competition for that.
I mean Destiny has very good gun feel, high production values (graphics fidelity) and nice music but that?s it and it is not even remotely enough to make it a very good game.
It is decent, it is not bad. But with the utter lack of story, characters, social features, odd RNG implementation, restrictive progression system etc. etc. it can?t be good enough for a GOTY award unless you have really shitty taste.
If anything Destiny should be awarded the ?everything that?s wrong with today?s videogames? award? but even then Order 1886 is pretty hard competition for that.
I can only conclude that the Wii U doesn't exist in Europe...
Seriously, has this game won ANY awards? It's one of the greatest, purest gaming experiences in years and I feel like because it's both Japanese and on the Wii U, that somehow invalidates it from winning anything.
Seriously, has this game won ANY awards? It's one of the greatest, purest gaming experiences in years and I feel like because it's both Japanese and on the Wii U, that somehow invalidates it from winning anything.
Wait, David Braben created Kinectimals...checks Wikipedia...ok, mind blown.hermes200 said:
Agree with all this absolutely, Elite on its own would be enough for DB to get the lifetime achievement award, but its worth pointing out that there's nothing wrong with Kinectimals (haven't played/seen Disneyland). It's a lovingly crafted quality children's game of the kind we rarely get these days. Its not particularly deep and it has a lot of the problems common to Kinect (and especially early Kinect) games, but its certainly not a blot on anyone's CV.Rellik San said:
Peter Molyneux is like the Paul McCartney of video games, it doesn't matter how terrible his latest album is, he's still Paul McCartney. Frankly both him and David Braben deserve the award; lifetime achievement awards are always bizarre like this; if you institute a new award for say Rock music in 2015 who do you give it to first - the Beatles or the Rolling Stones and then after ten years you realize that Led Zepplin are still waiting for one...
Like we needed more proof the standards have tunnelled right through the bottom of the barrel at this point.
Fuck Destiny, fuck BAFTA for taking bribes (it's so obvious) etc etc.
Fuck Destiny, fuck BAFTA for taking bribes (it's so obvious) etc etc.
Game of the year? You mean of 2014? Do they know its March now?
Maybe they can use that Bungie money to buy a calendar?
Maybe they can use that Bungie money to buy a calendar?
Is it too late to reply on here? Oh well, doing it anyway!Charcharo said:Metro Last Light as it came out in the same year as Infinite and was much better in both gameplay and story.Xsjadoblayde said:I am uncertain of which Metro is the one you speak; Metro 2033 is fantastic! On ranger mode, it has to be my favourite FPS survival experience so far. But Infinite left me meloncholy, and thinking. Which is more than i can say for Metro. (Pointless opinion for the archivesCharcharo said:)
Meh, I played Metro and was satisfied. I played Infinite and was dissapoint and mad. It could have been so much better or more impacting... yet it turned into nothing worthy of thought.
To be fair, I have yet to complete Last Light, so i cannot judge the story as a whole yet. It autosaved me in the middle of a horrendous ambush, where i can hear them all shooting at me before the loading screen even disappears. On Ranger mode too. I must keep at it though. 2033 also had some awkward autosaves where it would do so as youre on your last filter during a surface run that would last longer than it's willing to supply you for. Ive had to restart earlier chapters a few times for that reason. Still love it though! Which must be something.
Though they didnt make a HUDless ranger mode for last light. I did not realise how great that was till they took it away. Now it just looks like a dirty, HUD-ridden common FPS!
There's an interesting question here about whether it's 'fair' to consider broken promises or outrageous hype when it comes to analyzing video game quality. Shouldn't you just look at the actual game in front of you and ignore extraneous factors? Consider also how the previous installments of a franchise have a big influence on how the newest installment is viewed.martyrdrebel27 said:
And I don't just mean review scores - award shows judges are tasked with weighing games against one another and determining which is better. Of course it's unavoidable that game consumers will be put off by basically being lied to if the final product isn't what was promised. Should reviewers and judges be trying to ignore all this 'baggage'?
Ayup. Utter mediocrity-at-best takes the Gold, and some people act rightly confused.
That about sums up the pathetic state of the gaming industry nicely, I think.
Y'know, I occasionally see someone claim "Gaming is better than it has ever been" like it's incontrovertible fact...
...and then something like THIS happens.
So as far as I'm concerned, the only "incontrovertible fact" here is that those people have extremely low standards, to put it politely.
Lets not kid ourselves: Destiny isn't GOTY material. It's just Halo with grind. Oh boy.
If that's the best 2014 had to offer, I weep for the future of gaming, because that's a new low.
One could say the BAFTAs were already a joke, but that's kinda my point: our industry accolades and celebrations in gaming are *utterly meaningless* because they're either the products of bribes and low "by-the-book" standards.
If you want to promote great games, or at least games that aren't just some burnt-out AAA developer's design-by-decree-of-management checklist then maybe we should start pretending like we give half a damn ourselves.
At least the fact that many in the audience were (rightly) confused, is a sliver of hope.
Standards haven't bottomed out entirely yet.
(friend rented it for kicks; he has good internet, unlike me)
It has nice graphics, and that's the best thing I can say about it.
That about sums up the pathetic state of the gaming industry nicely, I think.
Y'know, I occasionally see someone claim "Gaming is better than it has ever been" like it's incontrovertible fact...
...and then something like THIS happens.
So as far as I'm concerned, the only "incontrovertible fact" here is that those people have extremely low standards, to put it politely.
Lets not kid ourselves: Destiny isn't GOTY material. It's just Halo with grind. Oh boy.
If that's the best 2014 had to offer, I weep for the future of gaming, because that's a new low.
One could say the BAFTAs were already a joke, but that's kinda my point: our industry accolades and celebrations in gaming are *utterly meaningless* because they're either the products of bribes and low "by-the-book" standards.
If you want to promote great games, or at least games that aren't just some burnt-out AAA developer's design-by-decree-of-management checklist then maybe we should start pretending like we give half a damn ourselves.
At least the fact that many in the audience were (rightly) confused, is a sliver of hope.
Standards haven't bottomed out entirely yet.
I found Destiny to be EXACTLY that: boring and dull as dirt for every minute I played, which mercifully wasn't long.Chaos Isaac said:
(friend rented it for kicks; he has good internet, unlike me)
It has nice graphics, and that's the best thing I can say about it.
