Destiny Won't Launch on PC Because it Would be Too Much Work

[klaynexas3]

God, all this bitching about it not getting a port at launch, boo fucking hoo. It's not like people bitched about Diablo 3 not getting console ports until later on, and bitching about this makes about as much sense. Bungie made console games for over a decade now, why, suddenly, is it such a terrible thing that they aren't making PC games as of right now? In fact, shouldn't it be looked on favorably that they aren't just trying to bum rush a half finished port out for launch? Or pulling a Rayman and forcing everyone to wait for your port? Seriously PC master race, start acting like you are the master race, pull your head out from your ass, and stop acting like a damn 3 year old. Fuck me.

 

[Lightknight]

Lazy lazy lazy excuse to not launch for PC alongside the console ports.

I imagine that AAA developers are deciding to at least stagger pc launches nowadays to encourage early console adoption which has a significantly lower rate of piracy than PC ips. If that's the case then we'll need to get used to hearing insanely bogus excuses like this one.

Yeah people starting getting wise to the piracy excuse before, and they can't use it for this one as its a always online affair with accounts and the like. Expect even more spurious reasons in months to come for other games :/

People pirated the physical copy of WoW from what I understand even if they had to pay monthly subscriptions. Do we know if Destiny will require a subscription?

 

[Evonisia]

Obligatory "it's launching on Xbox One and PS4, but not PC, lol" comment.

I was planning to get it on the One anyway, for the record, so it just comes off as a lazy catering to people like me. I couldn't care less, Bungie, especially since it's been five years since you're last relatively good game.

 

[chozo_hybrid]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-04-28-bungie-explains-why-theres-still-no-pc-version-of-destiny

"Destiny is Bungie's first multiplatform game in over a decade, and its first on a PlayStation platform."

Bungie made ONI, a game on the PS2 before they were bought by Microsoft. It arguably feels more like a Ghost in the Shell game than the actual Ghost in the Shell games.

Game came out in 2001, so that's over a decade. So what you were quoting is correct.

That said, It's a game I really liked at the time, was unlike anything i had played up to that point.

 

[Asclepion]

The article states that Destiny is Bungie's "first on a Playstation platform."

 

[Compatriot Block]

Obligatory "it's launching on Xbox One and PS4, but not PC, lol" comment.

I was planning to get it on the One anyway, for the record, so it just comes off as a lazy catering to people like me. I couldn't care less, Bungie, especially since it's been five years since you're last relatively good game.

Are you talking about Halo: Reach? Because to be fair, it's also been about 5 years since Bungie released a game at all, and that was Reach.

 

[captainsavvy]

People keep on bringing up how the PS3 and 360 are last gen has-beens that Bungie are wasting their time on.
Well, I assume they're being catered for because people are still buying the consoles even now. And even though the PS4 and XBOne have been out a few months, there are a damn sight more people that still own the old consoles; not everyone upgrades the second new hardware appears. Like any company, they want to reach the largest amount of people. And considering Bungie has pretty much been excusively Xbox for some time, I guess that's where they figure their fanbase is likely to be. They haven't truled a PC port out. And it at least sounds like if they do one, they want to do it right.

I have zero interest in Destiny, but I guess this line of thinking just bugs me.

 

[Bat Vader]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-04-28-bungie-explains-why-theres-still-no-pc-version-of-destiny

"Destiny is Bungie's first multiplatform game in over a decade, and its first on a PlayStation platform."

Bungie made ONI, a game on the PS2 before they were bought by Microsoft. It arguably feels more like a Ghost in the Shell game than the actual Ghost in the Shell games.

Oni was an awesome game. I still remember playing and loving it. Never seen that cover art of it before.

On Topic: I am actually fine with this. I would rather have them devote their entire team to the PC version to make sure it is awesome instead of just a bad port.

 

[DarkhoIlow]

What baffles me more is that they are not releasing an MMOFPS(it's what it is and they are trying their hardest to say that it's not) on the platform where those types of games are actually played on.

Let's not forget the fact that it's not on the platform that fucking invented the genre (FPS). Bungie and Rockstar do have a reputation of not giving two shits about the PC market and then they blame piracy after they release their game months and months (this applies only to R*) after their console counter parts.

 

[Pseudonym]

Well, I expected as much. I thought they already said that the PC version had gotten 'maybe later'-status. I'll probably get an xbox 360 to play my old halo games and destiny on as my old one broke. Judging by the gameplay footage destiny will be much like halo in terms of gunplay without being a 6th halo game. I like halo for the gameplay but I'm kind of done with the universe and the same weapons and enemies. So I find destiny very compelling. I'd sure like to have a pc version but we'd all like a lot of things. I can't really bring myself to be angry about a game not coming out on PC. Sure it sucks but I don't think bungie owes me anything but functional games when I buy them.

 

[nyarlathotepsama]

I didn't even know this game existed until now. After a quick search I don't think I'll be missing very much in the end. Just anything one of those kinda boring Borderlands style cash-in FPS. I've never really be a fan a of the developers in the first place so I'm not bothered too terribly much. I would rather it didn't come out on PC at all rather than it end up being a bad port, an event that is almost guaranteed give the teams erstwhile single platform status. If people want to play it on the PC then well...here is hoping I'm wrong.

 

[Dragonbums]

Too much work?

What, are your jobs supposed to be easy now? Isn't this what your paid for?

Shit man, for ones in the creative field where hard work really gets you places, saying it's "too much work" comes of as really fucking lazy.

 

[Paragon Fury]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-04-28-bungie-explains-why-theres-still-no-pc-version-of-destiny

"Destiny is Bungie's first multiplatform game in over a decade, and its first on a PlayStation platform."

Bungie made ONI, a game on the PS2 before they were bought by Microsoft. It arguably feels more like a Ghost in the Shell game than the actual Ghost in the Shell games.

OH GOD. I remember ONI. It was a fun game, and pretty decent too.

And I don't think a lot of people working at Bungie now were around when ONI was developed and released, so it makes sense they might see Destiny as their first non-Xbox game.

 

[Arkham]

And I don't think a lot of people working at Bungie now were around when ONI was developed and released, so it makes sense they might see Destiny as their first non-Xbox game.

Oni was developed by a satellite studio named Bungie West, similar to Blizzard North of Diablo fame. Marty O'Donnell and Michael Salvatori both worked on music for the game, the latter of which is ostensibly still part of the Bungie audio team. I'm not certain anyone from Bungie West is currently employed in the main Bungie studio.

 

[The Lunatic]

Given PCs are making a higher revenue than the consoles, it seems like a bad idea to cut out over 50% of your potential revenue because you're being lazy.

 

[weirdee]

Side note on Oni: they effed up the PS2 controls pretty badly, but the PC one worked fine.

 

[Vigormortis]

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The entire thing is moot since almost all of their data comes from NPD analytics.

The NPD is notorious for constantly playing catchup (and often failing to do so) with the industry. In fact, they only recently started tracking digital sales. And even then their analysis is limited.

As such, it's relatively safe to say that the vast majority of the data within that analysis is simply incomplete. Especially in terms of PC sales.

Many of the conclusions could be right. But I'd wager just as many are not.

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Anyway, on topic:

And thus the final nail in the coffin for any interest I may have had in Destiny is driven home.

Oh well. To be honest the game looked less and less interesting the more I learned of it. And the more I see of it the more it looks like Bungie is just riffing on their own previous series.

 

[ecoho]

well, he claims that the problem is not the porting but the bug-testing, so at least he claims hes taking the bug testing seriuosly, which is.... refreshingly honest.
On the other hand, your taking your time to test it on the dreadful PS3 system and life support Eggsbox 360 and you cant do it on PC? How about dropping the obsolete platforms instead of the leaders?

Though Bungie, as a "Hardcore PC fans" you should know that the reason PC people will hate you is that you delayed the launch for the main platform.

Shooters are actually a lot more popular on console than PC, at least in the US. Nearly 3 times more popular on consoles even. The PC market is pretty dominated by strategy games, then casual (possibly indie?) games and then RPGs. Shooter are on level with Action-Adventure for the PC. (Surprisingly they're not the most popular genre on consoles either. That goes to Action-Adventure, but at console shooters still take up 20% of the market)

the report takes only last year sales. On PC you dont have to buy new COD every year. we still play COD4 (the best one), CS (all versions), TF2, Blacklight Rettribution, Planetside, ect that simply got ommited. COnsidering that PC shooter tournaments have up to 100 times higher audience/participation i have heavy doubts about it being more popular on consoles. Not to mentino that ESA is using retailers and steam does not disclose its numbers, which is why pretty much any site reporting on sales on PC under-report it.

That's a charitable estimate. I don't even think most people know anything about this besides "from the makers of halo!"

the trailers look cook. emphasis on "look". as in i expect graphics to be all there is to this game.

Why are people offended by this as if Bungie was giving the finger to each PC gamer personally? Seems like there's a myth going around that programmers work a day then take the week off. It makes absolutely no sense to say they're just being lazy. Game makers are hourly like the rest of us, and in a way it doesn't matter to them how much content is in the game. They're not putting it on PC so it can come out to their main audience at a more reasonable date and so they can focus on making it stable on a few platforms.

by not realeasing a game on PC meanwhile keeping up the life support on Eggsbox360 and PS3 they ARE giving the finger to every PC gamer.
And main market? PC IS the main market for FPS and MMO.

ok guys first rule of getting a PC version of a game don't ***** because you get it later, lets face it your the tougher crowed. if the game doesn't have FOV sliders and only runs at 60fps it would be (rightly) lynched by the PC community, so give them a reasonable amount of time to bring out a port and if they screw it up or don't do one after say 5 months of no news THEN you rip them a new one(that's 5 months after it releases on consoles).

Just because there are people that will gladgly eat shit does not mean that people who refuse to do so are "tough crowd". FOV sliders or at least decent (read: minimum 90) FOV should be mandatory for ANY game on ANY platform. Oh, and 60 FPS is the standart for PCs now so we wont complain if it runs like that. You know, these kind of graphical options that are asked by PC community gets modded into games in a matter of hours when its missing right? A single guy does it in couple hours, for free. and they have huge budgets and whole teams and cant do that? Oh, please.

And no, there is no reason why a PC version should be late (and not a PC port, PC version, because ports are just bad on any platform (remember oblivion on PS3?)).

PC is the lowest in playerbase, lowest in profit(games sell for less), and as you have proven are a harder sell then consoles. face it man all this bitching is just proving them right by excluding the PC market.

Currently there are more players online in World of Tanks then people have bought the PS4. Add League of Legends (similar) and WoW and DOTA 2 and now you have more people playing 4 games then there are sold 8th generation consoles.
Actually, face it.
PC is one platform and it is matching 2-4 others in number of players. Maybe even surpass them
It is one platform and it prints a lot of money.
It is one platform and it is the most profitable single platform

ok I see a pretty big flaw in that logic, all those games don't require high end computers to play and there is a good chance all those players own a console. Now take into account that most people who own PCs on the low end don't know how to upgrade their computers so in order to play a new game that outstrips theirs even at a little bit they'll have to buy a new one. This leads to them weighing a $600+ pc to a $60 game for their console, sure it wont look as good but they don't have to buy a new PC.

Now I want to make this clear so I don't get attacked again I am a PC gamer I just understand were we as a community stand. We are seen as whiny and ungrateful to most devs due to the mass bitching the vocal minority does so the best thing we can do is say nothing and not buy the game if its a shitty port. Use your wallets not your words that will send a much better message then bashing a game on a forum.

 

[LordDPS]

You know, I'm finding it interesting that this is the same exact excuse that the guys at CD Projeckt is using NOT to port Witcher 3.

But they are. The game will launch on Xbox 1 and Ps4 alongside the PC version.

 

[Platypus540]

I don't understand why everyone is so angry about this. Bungie has never been much for PC (at least not for a long time) and neither has Activision, so it's not like anyone was expecting a PC version.

Also, programming is a lot of work. If they say it's too much work to make a PC port, it's probably too much damn work. No reason to delay release just to satisfy users of a platform they don't focus on anyway.