Diablo III Launch May Get Messy

[PingoBlack]

These games often have a rocky start. I don't see what you're so worked up for.

Not worked up, just amazed.

BTW, what are those "these games"? Diablo 3 tech is shared with World of Warcraft, which isn't quite famous for bad launches.

See what I mean about bad titles yet poor transfer of information? Blizz say they took measures to prevent problems we saw a bit at last WoW expansion launch. So your point about "these games" is quite uninformed, I suspect you based it on the quality article posted here, no?

 

[Aeshi]

Just know, that by buying this game you're supporting Always-Online DRM without an Offline Mode, No LAN, Real Money Auction House / Pay2Win, No Mods, Dumbification by removal of Skills/Stats and you're directly feeding your money to this guy if you do that...

If other games "learn" from Diablo III and move even more towards that way, if you see increasing Always-On DRM or Auction House Ripoffs know that YOU, YES YOU are responsible.

And you know what? I'd rather support Kotick than the numerous stuck-up indie studios who think that remaking a game that was made about a decade ago makes them the Morgan Freeman of the gaming world.

And if you spent less time nostalgia-ising over the previous Diablos and more time actually playing them you'd remember that:

a) "Mods" in this sort of game translates into "Uber-Gear, Map Revealers & One-Hit Killers"

b) Out of all those Skills most were just "put one point into this" steps to the skills that were actually good.

c) If there was a build whose stat allocation wasn't "Enough Strength and Dexterity for gear, everything else into Vitality." I'd like to hear of it.

 

[Rooster Cogburn]

These games often have a rocky start. I don't see what you're so worked up for.

Not worked up, just amazed.

BTW, what are those "these games"? Diablo 3 tech is shared with World of Warcraft, which isn't quite famous for bad launches.

See what I mean about bad titles yet poor transfer of information? Blizz say they took measures to prevent problems we saw a bit at last WoW expansion launch. So your point about "these games" is quite uninformed, I suspect you based it on the quality article posted here, no?

Are you saying WoW expansions suffer connection issues at launch? By "these games" I meant online multiplayer PC games generally, which is what I have been talking about this whole time. Are you saying those issues are not common, and that I am 'quite uninformed' for saying otherwise? I have no idea if WoW expansions have smooth releases or not. Like I said, I don't know how bad these issues will be for Diablo III.

Do you realize you can make your point without being ridiculously condescending? You are treating me like a drooling idiot who can only form an opinion based on a single article. Maybe I am inclined to agree with parts of the article because they match opinions I already held. You can criticize the article and even disagree with me about it's merit or content without resorting to insults.

You say you're not worked up, but you're not doing a good job convincing me.

 

[Snotnarok]

Someone is going to have a VERY bad launch day.

 

[Loop Stricken]

These games often have a rocky start.

I have no idea if WoW expansions have smooth releases or not.

Somewhat ruined your point there, I feel.

 

[littlewisp]

I'm ah. . .I'll just be over here enjoying the game with friends, online gamer buddies, and family and leave you lot to your consumer knows best bonfire roast.

I wish my body had chosen to be sick next week instead of this one. Darn.

 

[funksobeefy]

I just tried to create a batle tag, but that was down as well. Yay no offline play! eye rolling ensues

 

[samsonguy920]

Snip

The auction house is nothing but a money grab. Blizzard could give two hoots about what little scratch the individual players make. When you consider the volume of trades that will go on, that represents a lot of dough to be made by Blizzard.
Before you decide to act like a douche, you really should take some time to understand corporate economics. Ignorance does you a disservice if you think you yourself is that important to ActivisionBlizzard.

 

[Pipotchi]

I was interested in Diablo but I cannot be doing with always on DRM. I like to play games on my Laptop at work and dont have internet there.

Oh well plenty of other stuff to buy and its not like they need the money

 

[Torrasque]

They actually have to tell people this? I thought everyone just knew that when a few million people try to hop on at the exact same time, servers will be slow as fuck. But then again, not everyone has had to deal with patch tuesdays... *grimace*

I'm not even going to get into the discussion about real money auction house, or the always on DRM, or the lack of offline mode, or anything else. Haters gonna hate, and as sloppy as the open beta was, I am still ecstatic for D3.

 

[irishda]

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The auction house is nothing but a money grab. Blizzard could give two hoots about what little scratch the individual players make. When you consider the volume of trades that will go on, that represents a lot of dough to be made by Blizzard.
Before you decide to act like a douche, you really should take some time to understand corporate economics. Ignorance does you a disservice if you think you yourself is that important to ActivisionBlizzard.

Where the hell did I say I was important to Blizzard? I was saying the ridiculous aspect of the auction house isn't because "it's a money grab", it's because the players take the game so seriously that they're willing to pay more money to get an edge in multiplayer that makes something like this possible in the first place. Blizzard isn't forcing you to buy shit off the auction house, regardless of any of those excuses like "well other pvpers are gonna be doing it" or "it's the only way we can beat the hardest difficulty".

So before you take a popular stance on the "evils" of corporate economics because of bullshit beliefs about how much money people in the business are actually taking home, maybe take the time to understand factors that contribute to corporate economics before trying to alleviate customers from the responsibility of being smarter with their money.

 

[Ashannon Blackthorn]

Personally I wish both sides would shut the fuck up for awhile and give me ears a break...

You're not obliged to frequent forums. You know, the places where people

Spoiler

Spoiler: don't do it man

Spoiler: your head will explode

express their opinions.

True, but I do and it's annoying seeing every thread getting derailed by the fucking idiots who take 1 side or the other and neither side can see any valid points the other side may make. Middle ground folks, sometimes the other side has a point.

 

[Twilight_guy]

Hum, I think I counted less posts about the issue of log-ins and more posts about not buying the game or complaining that it has feature X or both. I wonder if this counts as 'post unrelated to topic.' Oh well, guess people must love calculus with all these tangents going on.

You don't think someone's readiness to purchase the title or features related to the game's online requirements could possibly be relevant to it's potential log-in issues? Do I have to wait for a story that literally mentions a feature by name before I bring it up even if bares on the topic at hand? If people were talking about The Avengers I would understand.

Still pisses me off when people come into a thread, vent some rage, and then leave while contributing nothing to any discussion.

 

[Simonoly]

I don't like the always-on DRM, in fact I kind of hate how that's going to be a real issue for people without constant access to the internet. It's completely unnecessary.

I'm unsure whether or not I'm going to cancel my pre-order or not yet. I have the weekend to decide. Personally I will always play this game online because I get the most enjoyment out of dungeon crawlers by playing with others (I haven't completed Torchlight for that very reason). I just don't enjoy games of this genre whilst playing on my own (even Borderlands was boring for me with out the variety of random co-op players). So having to be online all the time won't actually be an issue for me so no point in cancelling. But, I also feel on principle I should cancel my pre-order purely due to the ludicrous lack of offline play that's going to be a real issue for many.

Ah crap - I appear to have been infected with First World Problems.

OP: 40 seconds? THE HORROR

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

This sucks for anyone who bought the game hoping to play it without all the online bullshit. Thankfully the game sucks so they aren't missing anything.

 

[Cid Silverwing]

Here's a solution, Blizzard.

Include offline mode!

 

[not_you]

stagger the release guys its not that hard, I mean you do it all the time for Australia.

Yeah, and it's not annoying as hell either....
Not like Australians can import copies from other places anyway...

OT: Oh no!
a 40 second wait timer!
How will the Blizzard fans survive!?!

Personally, it doesn't effect me... I can just never manage to get into any game made by Blizzard because there is something else nearly identical that's better...

Not trying to create hate... Just my opinion...
In the end though, I agree with the Quotee in saying that staggering the release date isn't a bad idea... Just that it will generate standard hate from people not in the US/UK... And won't stop half the people in staggered countries from importing a copy or buying online...

 

[AngleWyrm]

Ya know, for a project that is expected to generate millions of dollars, I would take the bold step of buying a few more servers.

 

[JohnnyDelRay]

The mere fact that they expect so many players at launch that their servers are going to be choked, just goes to show that the fans don't give a shit, and will get the game anyways. So all the people claiming they are not going to get the game because of a lack of offline mode, sorry guys it don't mean shit to them.

Anyways there's a crapload of other games innovating and improving on the hack-n-slash RPG genre. Just hoping this isn't the way games go now, I actually like playing without having to sign in or depend on dodgy/slow internet connection (or game servers in this case).

 

[Loop Stricken]

Ya know, for a project that is expected to generate millions of dollars, I would take the bold step of buying a few more servers.

And then when the initial rush dies down and everybody who owns the game isn't logging on at once, those servers are now redundant.