Why should he pay for your self flagellation? If you didn't like Phantom Menace, then why would you see the other two and then complain about it?pretentiousname01 said:
Did Mass Effect Steal It's Story Outright?!
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You saw Episode III three times and you didn't like it?! You have no one but yourself to blame and thus, no right to *****.Starke said:
I had to see them
NOOOOOO!!!!!!! so bad
Also if I complained about the movies without seeing them my arguments would immediately be invalidated. In the name of science(!) I subjected myself to those 3 movies.
The same reason I played ff13. Could not call shenanigans without first person experience.
Actually I can blame George.Blindswordmaster said:
NOOOOOO!!!!!!! so bad
Also if I complained about the movies without seeing them my arguments would immediately be invalidated. In the name of science(!) I subjected myself to those 3 movies.
The same reason I played ff13. Could not call shenanigans without first person experience.
Science is one thing, but self preservation must rule some days, good man, or all is lost!pretentiousname01 said:I had to see themActually I can blame George.Blindswordmaster said:
NOOOOOO!!!!!!! so bad
Also if I complained about the movies without seeing them my arguments would immediately be invalidated. In the name of science(!) I subjected myself to those 3 movies.
The same reason I played ff13. Could not call shenanigans without first person experience.
No. It took a few concepts from ringworld. It borowed heavily from a number of sources. As has virtually every game or piece of media created in my lifetime.SL33TBL1ND said:
Personally, I'd say it would be difficult to judge the truth of the statement. I'd have to read the book at the very least. Even then I don't know if I'd be convinced it was outright theft of a narrative. Mass Effect is built upon sci-fi cliche such that by borrowing from many sources they just happened to produce a suspciciouly similar story.
..I don't know.. I never got to play Mass Effect when it came out, so I didn't complain. But now that I have played it, the problem with the plot is that it doesn't seem to be constructed so that you understand it's built from the bottom inside that game-world.Eclectic Dreck said:
I mean, that's a problem when you "happen" to have copied something else. It wouldn't have been an issue if the story stood on it's own. But.. when it seems as if the game rests on something outside the game-world for context, then plagiarism is extremely too close for comfort..
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Well, without reading about the novel in detail (partially because I'm not interested, and partially because I just wanna mock you), all I can say is this:
Everything is inspired by other stuff. Plates are inspired by the fact that stuff stays on flat surfaces. You put them on tables, which are based around the same idea. Same with roads and floors. This princible is also why roofs are often NOT flat; so that snow and stuff will fall off.
That tired rant may or may not have been stolen from someone else.
But if Bioware took the barest bones of a plot and turned it into a game that people enjoyed, I'd hate what you'd think of, say, someone who took folk tales and turned them into the stuff parents show their kids
or actually charged people for history lessons and stories from other countries.
You have to face it. Sometimes people who are smarter (much, much smarter) than you or I come up with things called 'ideas'. But those people 'steal' those ideas from the world around them. A television show can inspire people just as much as real life can.
Of course, one must always remember that, as information is accessed, it is altered. But at the root of it all, every story comes from the same place: the human instinct to imagine.
Revelation Space, Mass Effect, and Disney's Atlantis, Circa 1994
Well, without reading about the novel in detail (partially because I'm not interested, and partially because I just wanna mock you), all I can say is this:
Everything is inspired by other stuff. Plates are inspired by the fact that stuff stays on flat surfaces. You put them on tables, which are based around the same idea. Same with roads and floors. This princible is also why roofs are often NOT flat; so that snow and stuff will fall off.
That tired rant may or may not have been stolen from someone else.
But if Bioware took the barest bones of a plot and turned it into a game that people enjoyed, I'd hate what you'd think of, say, someone who took folk tales and turned them into the stuff parents show their kids
or actually charged people for history lessons and stories from other countries.
You have to face it. Sometimes people who are smarter (much, much smarter) than you or I come up with things called 'ideas'. But those people 'steal' those ideas from the world around them. A television show can inspire people just as much as real life can.
Of course, one must always remember that, as information is accessed, it is altered. But at the root of it all, every story comes from the same place: the human instinct to imagine.
Revelation Space, Mass Effect, and Disney's Atlantis, Circa 1994
Before you decide to say the same thing as 5 other people, read my response to them please.Eclectic Dreck said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
Well, the book doesn't really lay out most of the ideas from the game... only the sentient machine race that eradicates civilization, which, has been done several times. Besides... Mass Effect borrows from a lot of genres... in particular:
Biotics = Force Powers from Star Wars
Geth = Borg from Star Trek
Rachni = you could argue they were inspired by the creatures from Starship Troopers
Mass Effect did some things differently, however, especially in the area of diplomacy. Like how the humans were among the last to develop FTL tech and as such were junior members of the galaxy for a long time. The Mass Relays may have been inspired from some other work, but if they were I don't know of it.
Biotics = Force Powers from Star Wars
Geth = Borg from Star Trek
Rachni = you could argue they were inspired by the creatures from Starship Troopers
Mass Effect did some things differently, however, especially in the area of diplomacy. Like how the humans were among the last to develop FTL tech and as such were junior members of the galaxy for a long time. The Mass Relays may have been inspired from some other work, but if they were I don't know of it.
Did Mass Effect Steal It's Story Outright?!
- No.
Source: Over 300hrs played in ME and ME2. Read "Revelation Space" & "Chasm City".
- No.
Source: Over 300hrs played in ME and ME2. Read "Revelation Space" & "Chasm City".
Mass Effect stole it's plot from Knights of the Old Republic actually.
Except half way through the game, instead of Revan, it's Reapers.
Except half way through the game, instead of Revan, it's Reapers.
Dragon Age does do a lot of stuff differently.JasonKaotic said:
The elves for example are really downtrodden and abused (The Witcher style), there's a much more medieval aesthetic. The concept of the Qunari is really cool, and there's a lot more political intrigue between and in nations, unlike the Empire in Warhammer. The concept of the Tevinter Empire is very cool, and the Blight and Fade and Darkspawn is generally a lot more mysterious and there's different religious groups using different messages for the Blight and stuff to justify their religious messages which is pretty interesting I think.
Dragon Age draws on a lot of different fantasy concepts, makes them a bit darker and more mysterious, and stops the grimdark. It's like The Witcher meets Warhammer with a sprinkling of Forgotten Realms. There are also no Orcs. At all.
thread necro?Korten12 said:
yea it looks like there both based off of that
and HW:Cataclism seem to have taking it story setup wholesale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDcELUCroDs
still beast>flood just for the naggarok
