Did Twilight really suck that much?

[Vindictus]

It's become cool to hate, but there is reason. It's a mediocre vampire/werewolf fan-fic, based upon the Author's wet ream. If that's your thing, then cool, but it doesn't change the fact that it's not very well written (or imagined).

Hate is a strong word. It's just another thing I dislike that's oozed out of popular culture.

 

[Iampringles]

I watched the first film, and that was pretty good. But I haven't read the book, so I wouldn't know of it's literary quality.

 

[Ninjat_126]

As for Steven King, I haven't been impressed by anything he's done.

Have you read Misery? Or The Shining? Those are two good books.

~snippity~

Totally agree with you there.

My thought processes while reading the books:

Twilight:

1. "Hey, this isn't as bad as most people are saying!"
2. "Bella's unusually verbose. Whatever, some extra description isn't exactly damaging."
3. "So, Bella's met Edward. Guess they'll fall in love and then she'll learn he's a vampire."
4. "They're in love? When did that happen?"
5. "Sparkles? Really? How is that a weakness in any way?"
6. "Finally, some villains."
7. "They're dead. Well that was straightforward."

New Moon:

1. "Right. A vampire that actually wants to drink blood. Cool."
2. "Edward's leaving? Could this be some character development?"
3. "Bella/Jacob. I see a love triangle in the making."
4. "Werewolves! That would be surprising if it wasn't spoiled everywhere."
5. "Ok, vampire royalty, suicide, sounds ok."
6. "And Stephanie Meyer has just bashed the reset button until it broke. So much for development."

Eclipse:

1. [Some random crap about a vampire war sounding alright.]
2. "Oh. So it's over then, is it?"

New Moon:

1. "Ok, they're married, and that's somehow bad when they wuv eachother that much."
2. "Vampire baby? The author said that couldn't happen, but whatever."
3. "Chestburster baby! WOOT!"
4a. "And Vampire!Bella doesn't even have vampire bloodlust. Missed Moment Of Awesome.
4b. "Vampire royalty, impending vampire war, cool."
4c. "PEDOPHILE JACOB!?"
5. "And it's over! And they wuv eachother vewy much!"

 

[kickassfrog]

So I was browsing the forums and I saw a Twilight hate comment. And that brang back memories of other people hating on Twilight. And more. AND MORE. And I have to ask, did it really suck that much? Was it really that bad? i read it and thought it was fine. There were a few good bits, a few bad bits, and Bella is about as emotional as a box, but I didn't want to gouge out my eyes over it. Ok, so it didn't exactly blow my mind. But all it was was average. A lot of books are average! I don't hate (and this is just me looking at a random book that I didn't like all that much) Endymion Spring entirely because I forgot about it 20 minutes after finishing. So why do people hate Twilight so much?

EDIT: The BOOK people. THE BOOK.

I hate it because of what it did to vampires. They used to be cool, powerful beings that could only survive at night.
Now they're just angsty permateens who sparkle in daylight. They're closer to Peter Pan than to Bram Stoker's Dracula.

I'm not saying they all have to obey the Bram Stoker formula, but being killed by daylight is kinda vampires thing. That's what makes it fair for them to have all their powers and be immortal, never seeing a sunrise again.
But if you become an immortal superbeing who doesn't have to drink human blood, why wouldn't everyone be a vampire?

 

[Mcupobob]

I'm not sure I've never really seen it. Though it obviously was bad enough to piss off the good portion of the Internet and whatever the Internet hates must be bad right?

 

[holy_secret]

I suppose people hate it for the same reason people hate Call of Duty. Because it's popular. Or something.

Or because to get the attention of a boy the main character attempts suicide, and it works. Great message there Stephanie.

Admittedly I have very little knowledge of the stories and taking that out of context may be an ignorant move. But I don't exactly spout hate against it, I just thought I'd counter the bullshit 'because it's popular argument.'

Also, vampires do not sparkle.

I'm pretty sure Twilight Sparkles.

I don't mind the books. They're okay. The movies though. Jesus christ. I've never seen so much melodrama since my ex got the boot from my life.

 

[Renon]

I love reading, therefor i have read it..
And, well.. I kinda liked the books, even tho i did hate what they did with the vampires(The sparkling)..
However, i do see why so many people hate on them. It's a love story with vampires for christs sake. It's almost asking for hate.

On a side note : The movies suck.. Alot.

 

[sephiroth1991]

TBH i gave the book a try, it was horrid. I gave one of the films a try couldn't get 20mins in before i gave up. So I dislike it because they rubbish.

 

[MrFluffy-X]

its just...you know....kinda gay

 

[Macrobstar]

I suppose people hate it for the same reason people hate Call of Duty. Because it's popular. Or something.

People dont hate all of duty becasue its popular, its because its generally shit

 

[DrgoFx]

Twilight. Well I have read it but the reason why I read it is a weird one. Last year in Spring, my parents and I vacationed in Germany for a good couple of days. On the way home, our flight was delayed a good while and so I went to a book store to see if anything was in English. Twilight was in English and I figured "Hey, maybe it's not as bad as people think." And I have to say it was torture to read through it. I mean, Bella is emotionless for a reason, she's a tool in order for the author to express her never dying love for a character she invented, Edward. I never read the full series, just the first book and with that I just thought it was disturbing how in love the author was with Edward, the only off putting thing after that was the sparkles and the fact Edward seemed like a creepy stalker.

Then I got into a relationship with a girl who actually liked Twilight and she told about the later books and then it hit me as to why it's bad. Stephenie Meyer is a hypocrite. In the first book, she states that when you're a vampire, all of your bodily fluids stop. So there is no blood, no stomach acid, no sperm. What happens in the fourth installment? Edward has sex with Bella. No, I don't care if the venom can explain it, that is just lazy writing. That is just an author want to have a sex scene with their favorite character and not caring if actually works with their story. Oh and plus Jacob loving the demon child is a little disturbing.

As far as the movies, I don't mind them really. None of the actors are generally bad, they're just stuck with this shitty script. The director is actually pretty good, I love how in the first movie it shows how cruel the "vegetarian" vampires are by having them kill an innocent deer. Taylor Lautner is actually a decent actor, I like him, I actually related to him because in the time of physically watching the sequel, I was currently dealing with the same shit. Perfect boyfriend comforts a girl while her dick-head boyfriend leaves her. When forced to decide, she goes to the dick-head boyfriend. The only other comment I can make is that like I said, the actors aren't really bad. Kristen Stewart has actually done some decent acting. A movie I own which is basically just Jumanji in Space, she plays the older sister which is a character you're meant to hate and she actually sells it. She sold it before I even knew what Twilight was.

So yeah, that's my contribution. If at anything, I just hate the obsessed fans and the writer herself. As Stephen King once said: Harry Potter is all about confronting fears, finding inner strength, and doing what is right in the face of adversity. Twilight is about how important it is to have a boyfriend.

 

[Macrobstar]

Guuys he's obviously a troll, if he wanted to know he could've googled "twilight review" Or "why twilight is bad" and got the results you guys are just repeating to him

 

[ReservoirAngel]

As someone who's read them all and seen all 3 movies that have been released as of yet, I can say this: they are awful.

Just... awful. Not only because they essentially raped vampires and turned them into sparkling emo high school kids, but the actual story itself is just so... ugh. I mean, take a look at the first book: it spends 3/4 of its length fawning over Edward Cullen and how hot and mysterious he is, and only in the third act does the fucking plot start! You know, the plot that should have been happening all along? Yeah, that only shows up near the end, probably because Meyer realised that nobody would buy a book about a girl fawning over some moron for an entire book so she tacked on something about evil vampires wanting to kill Bella to justify her book full of idiotic teenage angst.

Then we come to New Moon and what happens? Edward leaves and Bella resorts to putting herself in mortal peril. Yeah, that's real good characters you have there Stephanie. Then again she tacks on the Volturi shit right at the end to try and force some kind of real conflict out of it.

Following that there is Eclipse. This one is a little better, but it just re-treads shit. The Edward/Bella/Jacob love triangle was pretty firmly resolved in New Moon but here we are going it all over again.

And then Breaking Dawn is an entire novel about childbirth and the angst that goes along with it. Because who needs interesting characters or stories when we have teenage angst and abstinence lectures, right?

I realise this is massively watered down but... holy crap they're just terrible. They're terrible books, terrible movies and just a terrible franchise in general.

 

[Infernai]

Apart from the overall raping of the Vampiric lore and the general Sparkling in the sunlight(I know a supernatural creature that sparkles..THEY'RE CALLED FAIRIES!), the Twilight series gave us....Bella. I think i'll let Mr. Critic explain it for me:

 

[Lybs]

I'd say it's because many see Twilight like people in the 80's saw disco.
Personally I've only seen the second movie and so many things pissed me off because of how much of the vampire and werewolf lore it destroyed but otherwise the movie was laughably bad which at some part watchable if you just turned off your brain for 2 and a half hour.

But what I think most people get pissed off about it that it's basically Dawson's Creek with bland vampires and a pack of shirtless werewolf living collectively by themselves in the forest in the middle of nowhere which in itself send other messages into a guys mind when Jacob says "I'm born this way, I can't change what or who I am"

Plus I've heard many fans of the book bashing the movie because it's just like Harry Potter inferior to the book