Diplomacy: Game Over

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Zemalac

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chomesuke post=362.72872.811594 said:
Little question, what does that do, civil unrest?
Couldn't find it in the wikipedia rules, and can't open PDF files.
Civil unrest means basically "You didn't send me any orders so I'm assuming you're doing nothing." All units hold. They don't move, don't support each other, etc. It's kind of a killer if you're at war with someone and need to set up a defense.

BoVinE post=362.72872.811606 said:
Zem, it is still Sunday, don't get impatient.
True. However, at 11:59 PM it will still technically be Sunday, the important qualifier being that at that point I will be asleep. It'll be a bit too late to send in orders at that point. There's also the issue of my internet connection. In the late evening I can't use my PC (currently because someone else is on it, later on because other people are trying to sleep) and so I have to use my laptop, which as I have mentioned before has an erratic internet connection. I'm posting this about twenty minutes after I first read it because my connection cut out when I tried to reply earlier. I've got it back now, but who knows how long it'll last?

Damn, it's down again. I'm serious. As I typed those words, my connection died on me. This is why I like getting orders early. I'll post this if/when I get my connection back.

Still waiting on four people.

EDIT: Couple hours later: Still waiting on two people. I'm going to bed now. Even if they got their orders in at this very second I wouldn't have time to calculate the results and create the map.

Tomorrow afternoon, when I get home and have access to the necessary files, I'll post the results whether all the orders are in or not.

Sorry about the delay.
 

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1902 dawns crisp and clear, and with an important message from someone we all know well.

Fate said:
Just dropping by to say that I hate Zemalac.
Fate hates me. It's official.

Well, this was a day or so later than it should have been, but on the bright side everyone got their orders in, including some people who I thought weren't going to make it. I had everything earlier today. Unfortunately my messaging system glitched on me and deleted three messages from my inbox, two of which were orders, so I had to send a rather apologetic message to those two people and wait for them to resend their orders. I couldn't just calculate the results and post that they were in civil unrest, because it wasn't their fault that I lost their orders somehow. And that's the story of how I'm up late yet again trying to get enough of an internet connection on my laptop to post this.

Good to know your GM is so efficient, eh?

Now on to the reason you're here.



SPRING 1902

Turkey

A Gre S A Bul
A Bul Holds
F Con-Aegean Sea
A Smy Holds
F Bla Holds

Austria

A Budapest S A Serbia-Hold
A Trieste S A Tyrolia-Venice
F Adriatic S A Tyrolia-Venice
A Serbia Hold

England

A Nor-Swe
A Edi-Nor convoyed by F North
F nor sea convoys: A Edi-Nor
F engChan- MidOce.

Italy

Fleet Nap-Tyrhenian Sea
Fleet Tunis-West Med
Army Ven Holds --Displaced by A Tyr S Tri S Adr 3-2--
Army Rom S Ven Holds

France

A Gas-Spain
A Pic hold
F Brest hold

Germany

Tyr to Ven
Kiel to bal --Bounced with F Bol-Bal 1-1--
holland S Bel
Bel hold

Russia

A seva - arm
A ukra - seva
F rum hold
F both -bal --Bounced with F Kiel-Bal 1-1--
A prus hold

Spartan, I need to know where that army in Venice is retreating to. Your choices are Piedmont or Tuscany (EDIT: or Apulia). I'll make the change to the map as soon as you tell me.

Now, since only one person needs to retreat and he generally gets stuff to me way earlier than everyone else, I'm going to go ahead and set the next deadline for orders without waiting too much for him. It's Thursday. That might change if Spartan is slower than I expect him to be, but probably not.

Once again, sorry for the delay and happy plotting.

EDIT: Italy has retreated from Venice to Tuscany. And I just reaized that I forgot to move a unit. It's fixed now. If this causes any problems, let me know.
 

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This week, in the spring of 1902, Turkey has declared war on Russia. The declaration of war was signed by Sultan Mehmed VI of Turkey was signed not two days ago, on the day The decree stated, in no uncertain terms, Turkey's resolve to wage war on a foreign aggressor until all its lands were free of the Slavic invaders: "This state of war is a direct concomitant of the illegal, barbaric and unannounced move by Russian forces into the Turksh province of Armenia," the pronouncement claimed, "and the Ottoman Empire will remain in such a state for as long as its sovereign rights are violated in so brazen a manner by Russia."
The resolution held out hope for peace, though: "The Ottoman Empire shall remain at war only as long as Russian forces remain in Turkish lands; if the invading army of Armenia were to leave, the matter would be considered ended. However, until such time as this outcome occurs, Turkey will tighten its defences and bleed the Russian invaders dry against the day that a counterattack is feasible."
In a speech made to a crowd of thousands only hours after his official signing, Sultan Mehmed VI stated that any nation to join, or provide aid to, the Russian invasion would be considered an eternal enemy of the Ottoman Empire, and would also be "dashed across the rocks, and the mountains, and the beaches, and the deserts of this great land until Turkey shall be named the Land of Red Earth after the blood-debt paid ten-thousand times for the land they have earned." He went on further to warn any of those considering alliance with Russia, asserting that until Russia's clandestine invasion, Turkey and Russia had enjoyed "the strongest of diplomatic ties - one extending to the amenable agreement over the Black Sea occupation and the beginnings of a non-agression pact," thus proving that "the Slav is not to be trusted by even his closest of false-friends: he is a crazed stallion, without the rein of restraint or the harness of mutual trust."
 

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Zemalac post=362.72872.816099 said:
Spartan, I need to know where that army in Venice is retreating to. Your choices are Piedmont or Tuscany. I'll make the change to the map as soon as you tell me.
Isn't Apu...something-else also an option?
 

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Saskwach post=362.72872.816744 said:
Zemalac post=362.72872.816099 said:
Spartan, I need to know where that army in Venice is retreating to. Your choices are Piedmont or Tuscany. I'll make the change to the map as soon as you tell me.
Isn't Apu...something-else also an option?
It isn't really directly connected to Venice right? the green A is just in the way of seeing the boundry? Or I'm mistaken.
 

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chomesuke post=362.72872.817049 said:
Saskwach post=362.72872.816744 said:
Zemalac post=362.72872.816099 said:
Spartan, I need to know where that army in Venice is retreating to. Your choices are Piedmont or Tuscany. I'll make the change to the map as soon as you tell me.
Isn't Apu...something-else also an option?
It isn't really directly connected to Venice right? the green A is just in the way of seeing the boundry? Or I'm mistaken.
No, you're both right. My mistake, I didn't see that there. Edited and fixed.
 

BoVinE

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Sorry, I'm new here, is chomesuke's probation going to interfere with his PM's and orders?
 

Zemalac

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BoVinE post=362.72872.817412 said:
Sorry, I'm new here, is chomesuke's probation going to interfere with his PM's and orders?
Nope. It's banning that's the problem. Probation is just a warning.
 

chomesuke

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Naah no problem. And it was thusly hilarious that it was worth it. And if it would I could always find other option to get my orders trough. Adding Zem on MSN for example.
 

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1902 comes to a busy and highly complex end. Read the list of orders, everybody. This was a seriously complicated turn, which is what this game was made for.



FALL 1902

Italy

Army Rom-Apu
Fleet Tyyrhenian Sea-Gulf of Lyon
Fleet Western Med-Spain --Bounced with A Spain 1-1--
A Tus-Pie

England

A Nor sup - A Swe
A Swe sup - A Nor
F NorSea Convoys - A Bel to Denmark
F MidAt to Por

Turkey

A Smy-Arm --Bounced with A Arm 1-1
A Bul-Rum --Bounced with F Rum 1-1--
F Bla S A Bul-Rum --Support cut by attack from F Rum--
A Gre-Ser --Bounced with A Ser 1-1--
F Aeg holds

Austria

F Adriatic-Ionian
A Trieste-Venice
A Budapest S A Serbia Hold
A Serbia Hold

France

A Pic hold
A Spain hold
F Brest hold

Russia

F rumania-black sea --Bounced with F Bla 1-1--
A sevastpool support rum-black --Illegal order, armies cannot support on water--
A arm support, rum-black --Illegal order, armies cannot support on water--
A prussia- warsaw
F gulf hold

Germany

Ven to Rom
Bel Convoy through North to Den
Hol to Bel
Kiel to Bal
Ber H
Builds and Disbandments:

Germany captured Denmark and Rome. Two builds.

Austria captured Venice. One build.

France captured Spain. One build.

England captured Sweden and Portugal. Two builds.

Italy lost Venice and Rome. Disband two units.

Neither Russia or Turkey captured or lost any supply centers.

The deadline for the next set of orders will be given when I have all the build and disbandment orders.

Get 'em to me fast and we can keep moving.

THIRD EDIT: FIRST TWO DELETED: Results have been changed, due to human error. Refer to the post below this one.
 

Zemalac

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I've been receiving some comments about things I've missed, little things like forgetting to move armies or paint supply centers when they've been captured. Thus far they've been little things. This past turn I made a big mistake, involving a small but vital rule. It was brought to my attention and vehemently argued that the results should be changed. I was uncertain as to how the rule should be interpreted, and so I kind of waffled on what the right result would be. I came to a decision and left it at that.

Further arguments were made, some by other people I know who play Diplomacy when I told them what happened. I decided that I'd go to the final judge, and do something I should have done from the start.

I downloaded a program called jDip, which calculates results and produces maps for you. I entered the game to date in it, trusting in the computer to tell me whether I was right or not.

It seems I'm only human after all. I was wrong.

Gentlemen, I give you (with apologies) what actually happened in the Fall of 1902.



FALL 1902 ACTUAL

Italy

Army Rom-Apu
Fleet Tyyrhenian Sea-Gulf of Lyon
Fleet Western Med-Spain --Bounced with A Spain 1-1--
A Tus-Pie

England

A Nor sup - A Swe
A Swe sup - A Nor
F NorSea Convoys - A Bel to Denmark
F MidAt to Por

Turkey

A Smy-Arm --Bounced with A Arm 1-1
A Bul-Rum
F Bla S A Bul-Rum
A Gre-Ser --Bounced with A Ser 1-1--
F Aeg holds

Austria

F Adriatic-Ionian
A Trieste-Venice
A Budapest S A Serbia Hold
A Serbia Hold

France

A Pic hold
A Spain hold
F Brest hold

Russia

F rumania-black sea --Bounced with F Bla 1-1-- --Fleet cannot retreat. Unit destroyed--
A sevastpool support rum-black --Illegal order, armies cannot support on water--
A arm support, rum-black --Illegal order, armies cannot support on water--
A prussia- warsaw
F gulf hold

Germany

Ven to Rom
Bel Convoy through North to Den
Hol to Bel
Kiel to Bal
Ber H

I now need a build order from Turkey, and then we'll begin Spring 1903.

I really like this program. Makes things so much easier. I'm going to use it from now on to determine the results of each turn. Remove the human factor except where I have to transfer your orders into the program and fix any spelling mistakes or whatever.

Again, I apologize for this. It was my own dang fault.
 

Zemalac

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Annoying how? There are some options for changing it, and if I can fix any problems with it I'll do so.
 

Spartan Bannana

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Colors...too bright!
But also, It's a little hard to see the smaller countries as the new units are bigger and the text is smaller, but it's all trivial, don't change anything unless you want to.
 

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Zemalac post=362.72872.829526 said:
Annoying how? There are some options for changing it, and if I can fix any problems with it I'll do so.
I think it worked better with 'A' and 'F' rather than the icons if its possible to change that.
 

chomesuke

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Spartan Bannana post=362.72872.829698 said:
Colors...too bright!
But also, It's a little hard to see the smaller countries as the new units are bigger and the text is smaller, but it's all trivial, don't change anything unless you want to.
Exactly, I don't really mind the colours but the army types(fleet or army) are not really clear to me now. If that could be changed that would make me a happy cockney.


Pwetty colours...
 

BoVinE

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Zem, sounds like they want the Detailed map with Simple unit style, which looks about the same as you originally had it.
 

Zemalac

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All right, Saskwach finally got his build order in, which means it's time for another map.

Note that I changed the unit icons. If you think there's anything wrong with the map still, for instance if you think the marks for where a unit has been built or disbanded are distracting, feel free to tell me.



Germany

A kiel
A Mun

France

Buld A Mersailles

Italy

Army Apu Disband
Fleet West Med Disband

Austria

Build F Trieste

England

One fleet in Edi.
One army in Lvp.

Turkey

Build F Constantinople

It is now Spring of 1903. Next orders are due by Wendsday afternoon, GMT-5.

Happy plotting, gentlemen.