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(Re)Watching Neon Genesis Evangelion on Netflix. Intially kinda put off because all the VA have been changed up and I was so used to the originals, despite not having watched the series since 2012. Now that it's back in the news again(SuperBunnyHop and Writing on Games both talked about it recently) and the fact the 4th rebuild film is apparently FINALLY coming out next year(8 years after the last one), I felt I should give it another try.

I keep forgetting how slow the first couple episodes are. The intro to NERV and Tokyo 3 is a bit of a slow burn and then there's the entire episode of Shinji riding the damn train for what feels like forever during his hissy fit. It does pick up after that and gets a nice rythem, before of course plunging into an emotional death spiral starting around the series midpoint all the way up that bleak acid trip ending(The movie, the series ending was just more bizarre and introspective due to the complete lack of money).

I do still like it and while Shinji does get annoying at times, he was physiologically and emotionally unfit to ever be put in that position to begin with, both by virtue of Gendos complete neglect and emotional abuse and the fact he's literally a child soldier being not quite forced but heavily pressured into fighting lovecraftian horrors on a near constant basis. Then again, few other cast members are exactly models of emotional health either, which makes it quite fitting when it's revealed much later that no matter how well they did,
They were all screwed from the beginning

Strangely enough, it also reminds me of LOST in a way, with mysteries piled on top of mysteries, except unlike LOST, it doesn't drag on and does reach a conclusion after a relatively brief period of time(having a single season and a film helps). It does suffer that context from a lot of the questions in the show comes from the Manga or the obscure Japanese Video-games that haven't really been translated or exported and even then it only makes a little more sense.

So yeah, 5 Evas/18 angels.
My problems with Eva was that I never really liked most of the cast; especially Asuka Langely. By the time I found out about her backstory: I was basically fuck you, too late, Imma play the world's smallest violin. Shinji could be annoying some of the time, but Asuka's overbearing bitchiness, boasting hot shot attitude, and know-nothing-know-it-all I am the "best" pilot around than baka Shinji. Fuck her. I heard the 2nd series of Eva is better than the first, because Asuka is less annoying, and everyone mostly gets a happy ending. Only for the 3rd season to screw it up, and turn everyone back in to major jackasses. I could not care less for a 4th Rebuild, and I'm surpised Gainax is going through with it, as they don't seem to do much these days when a lot of their staff (the people behind Panty & Stocking and Gurren Laggan) left to form Trigger. If I do decide to watch any of these, it will be the 2nd series, and ignore the rest. Because I don't have the patience for bullshit that waste my time.
 

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Went into this with the main impression of "who watches the watchmen??" And came out of it instead with an "ooh, that scratched the itch Brightburn couldn't figure out."
So it hasn't anywhere near the depth of Alan Moore, but it comfortably occupies a niche of its own. Karl Urban adopts a somewhat iffy cockney accent with about 90% accuracy, sometimes slipping into Australian with a few vowels here and there. Though considering he is Kiwi, I think my brain must be subconsciously Aussie-washing those due to his rather eerie Hugh Jackman features enhanced by the beard (could be a good ringer for Joel from The Last of Us, too).
The antagonist hybrid of Superman and Captain America works pretty effectively with Anthony Starr channeling the punchable sneery smugness of an evil-universe Jimmy Carr. There's not really much surprise to be found, nothing challenging or inspiring, but it does what it sets out to do rather well, unlike Brightburn. The direction is alright, if consistently by-the-numbers. The soundtrack unfortunately feels more picked to appeal to the widest audience possible as opposed to something more unique and memorable. The humour, while definitely aiming for dark, isn't sharp and cutting enough (though I do appreciate the calling out moment of guys telling women that wearing a skimpy outfit is "empowering" without bothering to hear her personal opinion when she's the one expected to wear it, oh and a laser baby moment that brought a chuckle). Overall an easy, enjoyable watch though, and am interested to see where they intend to go from here. Anyone disappointed with Brightburn may find solace in this, as I did. Maybe not. There's also a Simon Pegg cameo with a dodgy American accent, for interesting meta reasons that I shan't elaborate on.

Conclusion; they should've gone with this theme from Bazzie Boy's Romeo and Juliet. The title card drop just always beckons the audio memory, regardless of how indifferent i feel towards it.


Lastly I am a little confused by their understanding of what the phrase "date rape" means, according to one episode. It didn't seem to mean what it's supposed to mean. Is the definition different in the US or is the show doing a dumb?
 

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My problems with Eva was that I never really liked most of the cast; especially Asuka Langely. By the time I found out about her backstory: I was basically fuck you, too late, Imma play the world's smallest violin. Shinji could be annoying some of the time, but Asuka's overbearing bitchiness, boasting hot shot attitude, and know-nothing-know-it-all I am "best" the pilot around than baka Shinji. Fuck her. I heard the 2nd series of Eva is better than the first, because Asuka is less annoying, and everyone mostly gets a happy ending. Only for the 3rd season to screw it up, and turrn everyone back in to major jackasses. I could not care less for a 4th Rebuild, and I'm surpised Gainax is going through with it, as they don't seem to do much these days when a lot of their staff (the people behind Panty & Stocking and Gurren Laggan) left to form Trigger. If I do decide to watch any of these, it will be the 2nd series, and ignore the rest. Because I don't have the patience for bullshit that waste my time.
Oh, I agree about Asuka. She an awful person, a physically and emotionally abusive bully who for some reason is allowed to get away with outright assault on her roommate and random strangers(Shinjis friends) on numerous occasions without anyone stepping in to shut her down or tell her to knock it off. Her backstory does explain a lot of her behavior, but not excuse it.

And yeah, if you don't like the cast, I there's not much reason to watch it and honestly, it is a bit of a toss up between finding them deeply flawed and downright unlikable. It does feel like certain parts of EVA have really not aged well(and as a former Navy guy, the episode with the pacific fleet was really painful to watch).

The 2nd rebuild movie has Asuka being a bit more bearable though she's also not in it for nearly as long(due to the running time). The 3rd on the other hand, well, the story takes a massive swerve, there's a 15 year time skip and the world is a lot worse off(as in it's implied most of the world is unlivable and humanity is at a fraction of it's size because Shinji dun fucked up and kinda started 3rd impact himself).

And yeah, everyone in 3rd rebuild ends up being really jerkish towards Shinji without actually explaining why they're mad at him, but rather everyone gives him a "YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID" silent treatment. Sure, it was a hard 15 years for everyone while Shinji was essentially asleep but it's pretty shitty that nobody actually tells him why they're mad at him until a fair bit into the movie. The other issue is that 3rd rebuild is basically buildup to the 4th one, whatever that's going to be. I'd honestly given up hope I was ever going to see a conclusion to the rebuild series, since it seemed to be taking so fucking long for that last film to get made(and even getting a DVD release of 3rd rebuild took took way longer then it should have, instead there was a very limited US theater run).
 

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Voltron: Legendary Defender: Season 4 (3/5)

If I had to rank the seasons of VLD right now, it would go 3>2>1>4. Though honestly that's pretty arbitrary at this point, since they're all stock average, not to mention that seasons 3 and 4 feel like one overall season split into two parts without any break in the storyline. That said, I'm ranking season 4 the lowest because each season up to this had some kind of angle to it. Season 1 was an introduction, both narratively, and for the characters themselves. Season 2 had a lack of focus, but still coalesced on defeating Zarkon. Season 3 is the immediate fallout of Zarkon's 'defeat and Lotor coming to the fore. Season 4 is...um...well, it's an extension of seasons 2 and 3 really. But that aside, there's two episodes that stick out. One is "The Voltron Show," which had me in stitches as the crew are forced to do propaganda shows to stir up rebellion. It's brilliant, it's hilarious, it's an affectionate parody, and I love it. In contrast, there's the final season episodes where it's just action, and action, and more action, and God does it get boring. Y'know, episodes ago the show was making fun of technobabble, whereas in the final, a planet's going to explode that will destroy "ten adjacent star systems." This is said by Pidge, who was previously complaining about technobabble. First of all, that would mean the blast would travel faster than light. Second of all, what does "ten adjacent star systems" even mean? The distance between stars isn't uniform! I know this seems like an odd thing to get hung up on in a show about space lions, but I've said it before, and I'll say it again, there's no sense of scale in this show. I don't have any idea how big the Galra Empire is. Sometimes it's across galaxies, sometimes it's across the universe, but apparently it's also small enough that a line of star systems can cut it in half. How does astro-geography even work here? Y'know, VLD has people who worked on Avatar: The Last Airbender, and among everything that show did right was give us a sound sense of geography, where everything was in relation to, well, everything. I know that's much harder to do in a space show, and VLD isn't the only one guilty of this, but the scale is so vast, yet so small when the plot calls for it, I've got so little sense of the stakes other than "galra are bad, stop galra."

There's actually another issue with this season though, and that's Keith. I...really don't know what the writers were going for here. Maybe it'll pay off later, but in season 2, Shiro tells Keith that he'll be he leader after him. End of season 2, Shiro is gone. Start of season 3, we have our 'lion swich' and Keith becomes the leader, although with a lot of growing pains. Okay, fair enough. Character arcs. But then Shiro comes back and Keith is like "yeah, I'm just gonna hang out with those Marmora guys now, see ya." So, Shiro's the Black Lion pilot, but Lance is still the Red Lion pilot, even though him piloting Red was contingent on Keith piloting Black, but he's still Red, and oh God I'm overanalyzing space lions! But that aside, what's the point of Keith's 'arc,' if in less than ten episodes, the entire point of the arc is nullified? Apparently Shiro was speaking out of his arse in season 2 because the status quo is reverted.

Also Matt's still alive, because we can't have anyone die in this series. Like, Pidge crying over her brother's grave, among a sea of graves that commemorates everyone who fought against the galra, but nup. We get Matt. Because hey, if we can't develop Keith as a character, then we can't develop Pidge either.

I'm just...I dunno. I'm on season 5 now and I don't know why I'm even bothering, because five seasons in, and all of the problems that were present from day 1 are still present, and I don't see how they can be solved. I feel at this point VLD is at its best when it's being comedic, like "The Voltron Show" episode or that space mall episode. Because when nothing makes sense, I figure running with the insanity is the best bet.
 

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The Boiz Boys
Neat. Actually came in here to ask if anyone had seen Da Boyz The Boys. Will give this a look. Been hankering for some good superdickery after watching Brightburn a few days ago.
 

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The Boiz Boys
Went into this with the main impression of "who watches the watchmen??" And came out of it instead with an "ooh, that scratched the itch Brightburn couldn't figure out."

(SNIPped the rest but kept this bit so you knew what I was quoting)
This is an excellent review and I agree wholeheartedly. Well done that flesh being!
 

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Voltron: Legendary Defender: Season 5 (3/5)

After the worst season in season 4, we get the best season in season 5. But again, that isn't the same as being "good."

Come to think of it, season 5 is really just more of the same of season 3 - Galra Empire fractures because of Zarkon's death/incapacitation, cue Lotor filling the vacuum, cue the pretty pretty explosions. Season 4 has Zarkon come back, cue more pretty pretty explosions. Season 5 has Zarkon outright die, proving two things. One, VLD can almost out DBZ DBZ. Two, Zarkon is a boring antagonist. Just because he's got an interesting backstory doesn't make the character himself interesting when his motivations can be boiled down to "power! Unlimited power!" That the empire fragments upon his death is more interesting than Zarkon himself. But on the subject of Lotor, I know I've been spoiled as to his fate, but seriously, who, watching season 5, believed that he wouldn't go bad? He wants quintessence this, quintessence that, and he spends more time doing that than securing the throne. FFS, even the characters point it out. But not Keith. Poor Keith. The show seems to have forgotten he existed at this point. Seriously, no idea how Klance became a thing at this point when we've gone a whole two seasons without them interacting, while LancexAllura is developed over time. I mean, cliche, sure, but least it makes sense.

Oh, and Pidge's dad is saved. Like her brother. Because God forbid a protagonist dies, or experiences loss. But hey, explosions, and plot revelations we can see coming a galaxy away...yay...

So, that's VLD. Best of the bunch, but yet to be "good."
 

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Breaking Bad

One of these shows I've always been meaning to get around to and now finally did. It was mostly really good. Now, mind you, I say "mostly" because I felt that the series at its most consistent in the first two seasons and hit its peak, as a thriller at the very least, when Walter and Jesse were held prisoner by Tuco in the second season but both as a character study and as a story about organized crime it it remained enjoyable all the way throughout, carried by a consistently fantastic performance by Cranston and a steady influx of mostly very well written side characters.

It's not exactly realistic and I doubt it's trying to be, it has that theatric "Scarface" attitude towards its depictions of the American drug trade but while it"s not very realistic it is consistently believable in its version of New Mexico's underworld, even if characters like Saul Goodman, Gus Fring, Mike Ehrmantraut or even what Walter himself eventually becomes are very much the type of over the top archetypes you tend to see in crime fiction.

If anything there seems to be kind of a meta story to the series of how a grounded world with relatively grounded characters eventually morphing into more and more of a potboiler gangster story (most exemplary of that Hank turning from an abrasive asshole cop into a heroic detective) but simply taken at face value it's... fun, yes. Arcs like the Tuco kidnapping, the assassination of Gus Fring or the entire last season about the peak and eventual fall of Walters career as a criminal all made for a very engaging watch.
 

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So, haven't had time to post reviews, so going to do a bunch together:

-Climate Change: The Facts (3/5)

Facts that I already knew. Far more interested in solutions at this point.

-My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic: Season 2 (4/5)

The season where the show found its groove.

-Voltron: Legendary Defender: Season 6 (4/5)

The season where the show finally got good. Sort of.
 

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-Climate Change: The Facts (3/5)

Facts that I already knew. Far more interested in solutions at this point.
Well, if these facts were well know, we could focus on solutions instead of wasting time and money on 'proving it.'
 

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trunkage said:
Hawki said:
-Climate Change: The Facts (3/5)

Facts that I already knew. Far more interested in solutions at this point.
Well, if these facts were well know, we could focus on solutions instead of wasting time and money on 'proving it.'
I'm not worried about proving it now. If anything, that's one of the few glimmers of hope that climate change denialists have become well and truly fringe.
 

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Finished Neon Genesis Evangelion and the End of Evangelion film.

So after watching both like 3 or so times by now over the last decade or so, I think I finally understand more or less everything that was going on(even in the incredibly introspective final 2 eps). That being said, I'd kinda forgotten just how goddamn wierd and dense it gets near the end. Especially when the religious symbolism gets slathered over everything in the movie and SEELE goes from vague grousing about scenarios and whatnot to weird cultist speak and chanting.

Also, one has to wonder if Japan has something against Mental Healthcare or just NERV doesn't run psych evals on, well, anyone who works there, because it's damn clear that all the main characters should be in therapy/on meds by the end, if not outright relieved of duty. "Asuka, are you clearly having a mental breakdown? Tough. Back in the Eva you go to face yet another terrifying abomination".

Also Invader Zim: Enter the Florpus. It was entertaining, but it's not quite the same anymore.
 

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Hawki said:
trunkage said:
Hawki said:
-Climate Change: The Facts (3/5)

Facts that I already knew. Far more interested in solutions at this point.
Well, if these facts were well know, we could focus on solutions instead of wasting time and money on 'proving it.'
I'm not worried about proving it now. If anything, that's one of the few glimmers of hope that climate change denialists have become well and truly fringe.
Other then getting elected President of the US, you mean.
 

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Camp Camp: Season 3 (3/5)

If I had to rank the seasons of Camp Camp at this point, it would go 1>3>2. That said, neither of those next two seasons have managed to match the first for emotional impact, though season 3 does recapture some of the original essence. Key word being "some," bust CCS3 feels like a hybrid of the two seasons that came before it. It captures some of the heart of season 1, but also utilizes the same foul-mouth stuff and 'zanniness' of season 2. At this point, the show's starting to resemble South Park, and even though I like South Park, I don't really mean that in a good way.

Still, at the very least, season 3 has an overarching plot, namely saving the camp. Yep, that's right, turns out Max might actually prefer staying in the camp now, regardless of how trite that is at character development. I know, I know, season 1 ended with him making fences with David, but not to the extent that his personality changed. Yep, I'm complaining about character development occurring, and I'm freaked out like you are.

So, CC s 3 is okay. But it hasn't recaptured the magic of season 1, and I don't think the show ever will, nor do I think it wants to. Which is fine, of course - the show can go in whatever direction it likes. But it's not a direction I'm too fond of.
 

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Dalisclock said:
Also, one has to wonder if Japan has something against Mental Healthcare or just NERV doesn't run psych evals on, well, anyone who works there, because it's damn clear that all the main characters should be in therapy/on meds by the end, if not outright relieved of duty. "Asuka, are you clearly having a mental breakdown? Tough. Back in the Eva you go to face yet another terrifying abomination".
That never really comes across in their work though. As fucked up as Misato and Ritsuko are they are very professional when it comes to their job. I think that's deliberate to show the contrast between to how they present themselves and how they really are deep down. Their character design add to this as well, since from the outside all of them look like nice wholesome individuals, with the exception of maybe Rei and Gendo.

OT: Watched The Boys and it was pretty darn good. It's basically Robocop with superheroes, and it surprised me with how much this show was allowed to get away with. It's like the inverse of Man of Steel and Batman v. Superman, where the superheroes are depicted as violent and destructive not because they should (Zack Snyder!) but because they would. There's an incredibly dark moment in Ep. 4 that was handled amazingly, and that without getting violent or edgey. And in that same episode there's also one of the funniest.

Anthoney Starr as Homelander is almost too good. It's hard for me to believe the outside world could buy into him being this big blue boyscout when Starr has this creepy good guy smile all the time. But then people also buy into Tom Cruise, I guess. I also loved how it showed Vought turning this moment of empowerment for Starlight and her rebeling against Vought into a marketing ploy. Even putting a Katy Perry song over it to show just how "feminist" they were. It was pretty fucking vile, and it was great.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Dalisclock said:
Also, one has to wonder if Japan has something against Mental Healthcare or just NERV doesn't run psych evals on, well, anyone who works there, because it's damn clear that all the main characters should be in therapy/on meds by the end, if not outright relieved of duty. "Asuka, are you clearly having a mental breakdown? Tough. Back in the Eva you go to face yet another terrifying abomination".
That never really comes across in their work though. As fucked up as Misato and Ritsuko are they are very professional when it comes to their job. I think that's deliberate to show the contrast between to how they present themselves and how they really are deep down. Their character design add to this as well, since from the outside all of them look like nice wholesome individuals, with the exception of maybe Rei and Gendo.
I was thinking more along the lines of the 3 pilots, who are the ones out there facing the horrors up close and personal like every other week(the show takes place over the course of a year, so divide by 15 angels...). Yeah, Misato and Ritsuko are the most stable of the characters, despite Misatos horrible, horrible parenting/guardianship and being a total lush when she's off work. Ritsuko, OTOH, is incredibly composed until she fucking just looses it near the end of the series and starts trying to kill everyone(starting with the "dummy plugs").
 

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Dalisclock said:
I was thinking more along the lines of the 3 pilots, who are the ones out there facing the horrors up close and personal like every other week(the show takes place over the course of a year, so divide by 15 angels...). Yeah, Misato and Ritsuko are the most stable of the characters, despite Misatos horrible, horrible parenting/guardianship and being a total lush when she's off work. Ritsuko, OTOH, is incredibly composed until she fucking just looses it near the end of the series and starts trying to kill everyone(starting with the "dummy plugs").
Well, Rei is pretty much owned by NERV, so they can do whatever they want with her. I think that's even one of her fears, to not be needed anymore and to be disposed of (very similar to Asuka and Shinji actually). Asuka doesn't want to quit for anything even if it kills her. She'd rather die than not be a pilot. And Shinji seems to get deliberately fucked with by the powers that be, because there are multiple times he's told 'you can just stop being a pilot' by Misato and even Gendo, but with the caveat that 'oh, but it will mean the end of humanity'. The show is kind of really fucking mean like that, but at the same time it's sorta "inspiring" in that it's message is 'choose what you want for yourself regardless of the consequences'. I think this comes from Japan's worker bee mentality, and that kids are raised to cypher away their own wants and needs and just become productive members of society. And I think Anno was trying to say with this that even if it is to the detriment of society 'you do you'.
 

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Voltron: Legendary Defender; Season 7 (4/5)

Holy shit.

Serious question, is there a series out there where it gets this good this late in the game? Like, it took this show six seasons to get a "good" season, and season 6 was only "good" because the show went "what the heck, let's do action." Season 7 is good, and is good in a way that isn't based on "good for what it does." It's good, as in, actually...good.

That's not to say it's perfect though, and this seasons does have flaws. For starters, there's a bit of a divide between the two halves, in that the first is more self-contained, fillerish episodes, while the latter is tight, episode-to-episode continuity. Now, the early episodes are enjoyable (especially the game show one), but still fillerish. You could cut out the bulk of season 7's first half and barely miss any of the plot. Second of all, Sendak. He's...not a good villain. In fact, come to think of it, none of this show's villains have been good. Zarkon had an interesting backstory, but he was a boring antagonist. Lotor was the best of the bunch, but it's stymied by how his status as a villain was obvious, and his ambitions were left vague. Sendak is just some warlord who wants power. He's arguably better than Zarkon in that he's more of a physical threat (and this pays off with his duel with Shiro), but there's no emotional investment with him. And third of all, Rochelle. Or Romelle. Or "blonde Altean girl whose name I can barely even remember." Like, seriously what does she do in this season? Why is she here? FFS, Cosmo the Space Wolf does more than she does. She plays a key role in revealing Lotor's deception in the last season, but it's like the writers asked themselves "okay, so what do we do with her now?" and came up with the answer of "meh, just let her tag along and stay in the background - no-one will notice." Well, I noticed guys. I. NOTICED.

Okay, now that that's out of the way, let's get on with what's good. Above all, season 7 corrects an issue I've had with the series up to this point, and that's its approach to the issue of scale. Up until now, VLD has used terms like "galaxy" and "unvierse" interchangably, and things are so big, it's hard to become invested. However, season 7 focuses its activities on Earth. As in, galra invade Earth, Earth fights back, Earth loses but continues to resist, paladins come and liberate Earth despite all the roadblocks in their way. The stakes are clear, and it's easy to be invested in them because the galra aren't chumps. Earthlings aren't chumps either per se, but they're outgunned if not outnumbered, and it makes the stakes all the more real. You could argue that this season feels out of sync with the others, and there's some truth to that in regards to its much darker (if not grittier) tone, but I'm fine. In hindsight, VLD made the same mistake for me that Prisoner Zero did. It started off so big, when it would have been better to start off small, then have the stakes increase over time. Season 7 simultaniously feels like a series finale, yet also a series opener in some ways, given that it ends with alien refugees coming to Earth, with the intent of using it as a base to liberate the universe from the galra. So, does that sound like the ending of a penultimate season, or the start of a premise? Because I know there's one season left where the cast apparently accomplishes their goal, but still, I'd rather thave this as the start of that goal rather than the hazy footing of the first two seasons where there's no sense of scale other than "galra big, galra bad, one robot lion thing is able to beat galra."

So, yeah. Good season. Shame it took the show this long to get to this level, but hey, I'll take what victories I can get.
 

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After watching The Trial Of Tim Heidecker [https://youtu.be/8YWJcqISKJQ] a while ago and finding the subversive humor? intriguing, I decided to follow recommendations and watch 12 Hours of On Cinema At The Cinema [https://youtu.be/mBirwQQ-eIg] for the context of the aforementioned ?trial.?

Maybe someone smarter than me can supply the correct terminology if such a thing exists, but I can best describe this stuff as extremely long-form cringe comedy? Tim Heidecker and Gregg Turkington play critics on a very low budget movie review show. Heidecker is the mumbling, neurotic, easily upset host of the show and Turkington is the pretentious, self-proclaimed film expert who basically co-hosts, but Heidecker is quick to remind him he?s only a ?guest.? No one moment is funny unto itself (awkward, yes, but funny, no) but watching the slow boil over the course of HOURS makes for some prime hilarity. And what makes it even more brilliant is that the funniest moments should be the least funny, e.g.: learning that Heidecker?s wife left him when he decided to undergo a life-saving surgery on the blood clots in his brain is funny? Yeah, you had to be there? 3 hours ago. I?m not going to pretend I understand how or why they do it, but I can appreciate their ability and willingness to commit to a very, very, VERY niche humor.

EDIT: Just finished the 12 hours of On Cinema (essentially watched the first 8 seasons in 2.5 days,) and lemme say, while I don?t know to whom to recommend this show, it is brilliant. The slow, subtle and entirely absurd descent of Heidecker from good natured, charmingly selfish entrepreneur to egomaniacal living train wreck and Turkington?s pathetic attempt to maintain any semblance of their shared film review show?s legitimacy at any cost has been darkly hysterical. Literally nothing Heidecker suffers (or the invariable suffering he causes) would be remotely funny if they were to happen to anyone in real life, but for some reason? I don?t know; maybe ?imagine if Job (guy from the Bible, not employment) were a completely self-centered asshole and actually deserved everything that happened to him and learned nothing from his mistakes? Yeah, I?ll go with that. Off to start season 9?
 

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Carnivale Row (Season One)

A fantasy series on Amazon Prime, starring Orlando Bloom playing Colin Farrell playing detective Rycroft Philostrate in a Victorian style city, Cara Delivigne as refugee fairy creature Vignette Stonemoss, his former lover who came to the city as an illegal immigrant, working as a maid to noblewoman Imogen Pembroke and Jared Harris as chancellor Absalom Breakspear. Aren't you sick of these names already?

Listen, here's what Carnivale Row is: It's Discworld, more specifically, one of the later Discworld novels about the City Watch of Ankh-Morpork, without any of the humor. Or the charme. Or the likeable characters. Or the subtlety when it comes to addressing real life issues, not that those had a lot in the first place. What it replaces those with is distinctly Games of Thronesian "grit". Carnivale Row is Dark Fantasy, you see. Where people kill each other a lot. And say "Fuck" a lot. And, indeed, do fuck a lot, in that "no one involved is actually enjoying this" way in which nominally mature American media tends to frame sex scenes.

The premise, in general, is not exactly bad, following Bloom's detective invistigating the murder of fae creatures, one of the cities many discriminated species, and uncovering some sinister conspiracies. The show has solid worldbuilding for sure. But all of that just can't carry the whole show. Neither can most of the actors, for that matter. Orlando Bloom is not an actor who lends himself very well to a hardboiled detective role and while god was very generous to Cara Delivigne when he was handing out eyebrows, he was much less so when he was handing out acting talent. Actually, why does anyone who was in Suicide Squad still have a career?

The story does revel in its own grit, the chancellor's son gets kidnapped and tortured, Vignette joins a faery crime syndicates named the Black Ravens, it's all very "That Fantasy Novel you've been meaning to write when you were 16". You see, what made Game of Thrones work, until they ran out of books and tried playing it by ear, was that there was a humanity to take its edge of. Carnivale Row doesn't have that. I get that it's meant to invoke film noir but those are expected to have a much tighter script than Carnivale Row's sprawl.

I've been taking the piss out of the show for multiple paragraphs now and I do think it deserves it but certain redeeming qualities are there. Aside from lavish production design helping it's genuinely well fleshed out setting come to life it's morals are mostly genuinely positive. The problem is, it's too joyless a show to get much enjoyment out of. Maybe it'll manage to find its footing in future seasons but... no, I can't recommend it unless you have a really specific itch for a fantasy noir series that simply needs to be scratched.