Disgruntled PS3 Owner Starts Black Ops Refund Petition
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Actually, by reports you are not seeing minor graphical issues, but some rather signifigant ones. What's more an entire mode for the game, the split-screen co-op is missing from the product.bjj hero said:
It's only not signifigant if it didn't affect you, or you didn't want the mising feature to begin with.
This is not a big issue like the ones you descibe, it's a smaller one that affects all of us gamers and how we are treated by the industry. If we keep shelling out to companies that gouge us, or pull moves like this, we are ultimatly hurting ourselves.
I have a hard time believing you've never been irritated with the industry or screwed on a game. If your that lucky, with time it will happen, then you'll be that guy, and won't appreciate the kind of responses your giving.
Ultimatly the biggest obstacle to gamers demanding more of the gaming industry, less exploitive and predatory pricing, and a higher quality of product (I mean look at how many games are released as buggy messes today, with the companies taking months after we paid to fix things that should have been resolved to begin with. Half the time these guys seem to be releasing what should be considered beta software it seems) is ourselves.
I mean I understand the whole "I want immediate gratification, and Black Ops. is a decent game" point of view. You can replace "Black Ops." with any one of numerous other games run by companies gouging consumers and delivering shoddy products, it's just that Activision is unusually bad about it. The problem is that until we as gamers are willing to go without in order to get fair treatment, we're never going to see it. The only way to change things is to hit the industry in their collective wallets. We're also dealing with a cancer, patronizing products like the "Call Of Duty" series with it's overprice map packs, which people continue to buy DESPITE their constant complaints, is exactly why we see companies like Capcom deciding to do things like hold back characters from "Marvel Vs. Capcom 3" and charge people for them singly.
It's also noteworthy that the fact that as a community we won't stop buying games, even temporarily for our own long term interest, plays into the whole idea of "gaming addiction". I don't believe such a thing exists, but when we exhibit the same behaviors, we can't complain very much. Guys like Bobby Kotick handle gamers much like how pushers handle junkies.
If Wii owners want to complain, then that should be taken up with Nintendo or whoever owns the Wii for not putting more hardware/software in the system.. The PS3 is pretty much capable of doing everything the Xbox can, but instead it was nerfed. THATS WHY PS3 USERS ARE COMPLAINING!Aura Guardian said:
Sure there were bugs, but the game wasn't "unplayable". Besdies, the game is fantastic! This guy just needs to go cry to his mamma and let the rest of us Playstationites who bought the game play it and enjoy it in peace. If slight graphical differences make or break a game for him, then he should reconsider playing games in the first place.
Not everyone is you though. Just because you can play the game doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else. Why cant people understand that? I have medium problems with game, i get dropped out every other game or so, but i also have friends who literally takes like 30 mins just to find ONE game, even with Local search on.Fox242 said:
The game is good, I can say that much. But it has too many problems.
I can think up on a better, less "whiney" solution to this:
Don't freaking buy ANYTHING from Activision. Ever again.
Don't freaking buy ANYTHING from Activision. Ever again.
It concerns me that over 300 people signed it. Obviously that's 300 spoiled brats with an entitlement complex.
Plenty of people have played it on the PS3. They seem to have no problems. What are these people going on about?
I got Black Ops for the PC - it was a mess for the first two days after launch (much better now though). You don't have the right to demand a refund simply because you're not happy. Imagine if you could! I'd get a refund for every movie I've ever seen, and I'd demand that McDonalds gives me back money because I didn't like the French Fries!
This petition is doomed to failure, because if it actually did succeed, it would serve as a legal basis for customers to demand their money back for any reason under the sun.
Plenty of people have played it on the PS3. They seem to have no problems. What are these people going on about?
I got Black Ops for the PC - it was a mess for the first two days after launch (much better now though). You don't have the right to demand a refund simply because you're not happy. Imagine if you could! I'd get a refund for every movie I've ever seen, and I'd demand that McDonalds gives me back money because I didn't like the French Fries!
This petition is doomed to failure, because if it actually did succeed, it would serve as a legal basis for customers to demand their money back for any reason under the sun.
The Wii version doesn't have the Zombie map "Five", no splitscreen in any mode at all, no customizable emblems, and no Gunship or Chopper Gunner killstreak.
If anyone can complain, it should be the Wii owners. (I don't own the Wii version or have played the PS3 version, I know that from stuff my friend told me they don't have.)
If anyone can complain, it should be the Wii owners. (I don't own the Wii version or have played the PS3 version, I know that from stuff my friend told me they don't have.)
Exploitation? Solidarity? What are you, some oppressed minority, or a 19th century factory worker?Therumancer said:
Games are GAMES PEOPLE. To try to elevate them to the same level as genuine civil rights or worker's rights issues is ludicrous and insulting to people who have genuinely suffered throughout history.
Activision published the game. Treyarch is owned by Activision. Activision has the right to charge XYZ for it.
Did any tax payer money go towards making Black Ops? I don't think so. Did you, personally, invest money into Activision to make Black Ops? Are you a shareholder? If you are, you should be ecstatic at the return you'll be getting for your shares!
Games are luxuries. Not necessities. They aren't a fundamental right. Only someone with a shaky grasp on reality would elevate Games to the same level as a civil right.
Look, I'm all for consumer protection and competition. I don't like it when companies scam customers. But charging what they want for a game they published and helped make, isn't evil. It's not immoral. It's not illegal.
If you really think Activision is "oppressing" you, then you haven't really lived. You're naive as hell, and have certainly, CERTAINLY never really been oppressed.
So he'd get the game's worth?Notthatbright said:
In all honesty, he just needs to deal with it. He got conned out of his money but a decent but over all sucky game in comparison to the hype it got (yes, i'm one of those people, but i think its rightly deserved on this game) and just wants to get his money back and look like he's make a statement so he doesnt look like a dumbass, something he's severely failing at at the moment. Just go trade it in, get a copy of MW2 and be quiet. Its things like this that make games terrible.
Thats a reference to the new SC V game that may/may not come out after fans decided to make a petition and is going to suck if its made, since on the large, no one at the studios that make it wanted to make the damn thing.