Disney May Ban Leia's Gold Bikini From All Star Wars Merch

[CaitSeith]

This is like 30 years too late to matter.

The rest of the comments would suggest otherwise...

 

[Erttheking]

This is like 30 years too late to matter.

The rest of the comments would suggest otherwise...

Let's be perfectly honest though. The people who are getting angry. Where they ever going to actually buy any Slave Leia toys or are they just getting mad on principle because "SJWs" or something. I get the feeling very few were planning on buying one in the near future.

I'm not saying they can't do that, I'm just pointing it out.

 

[Kahani]

Unless they decide to edit the scene in all releases of the film from now on

Presumably the next special edition of Star Wars will replace all bikinis with walkie-talkies.

 

[LordLundar]

You telling me that they couldn't spare a single military class ship or some spec ops unit to go knocking on Jabba's door and instead had to send one of their Important Military Leaders to go bust him out in person?

You underestimate the syndicate's influence. Sure they could run in, issue threats until they get what they want or wipe out the place if they don't. Then instead of having someone who was only in the Empire's pockets they get someone who will be loyal to the Empire picking up where Jabba left off and a populace who thinks the rebels are worse than the Empire. It's the same reason why the US military doesn't just just knock over a mafia lord's house to stop their operation. The results are far worse than letting them stay up and under reasonable control.

You have to remember, the whole plan was to strike a deal first with Jabba to let him keep his power base while getting Han back. It just didn't work and they had to fight for their lives. As for the whole Bobba Fett nonsense, that was fan fiction trying to claim that he's too "badass" to be killed that way.

 

[CaitSeith]

This is like 30 years too late to matter.

The rest of the comments would suggest otherwise...

Let's be perfectly honest though. The people who are getting angry. Where they ever going to actually buy any Slave Leia toys or are they just getting mad on principle because "SJWs" or something. I get the feeling very few were planning on buying one in the near future.

I'm not saying they can't do that, I'm just pointing it out.

In general, who knows? But something certain is the existence of the obsessed Star Wars merchandise collectors. Does this kind of news bother that people?

 

[Erttheking]

This is like 30 years too late to matter.

The rest of the comments would suggest otherwise...

Let's be perfectly honest though. The people who are getting angry. Where they ever going to actually buy any Slave Leia toys or are they just getting mad on principle because "SJWs" or something. I get the feeling very few were planning on buying one in the near future.

I'm not saying they can't do that, I'm just pointing it out.

In general, who knows? But something certain is the existence of the obsessed Star Wars merchandise collectors. Does this kind of news bother that people?

I'm pretty sure that they already would've gotten anything. That and you can still buy them from Amazon. Disney isn't exactly destroying all the merchandise that ever existed.

 

[CaitSeith]

This is like 30 years too late to matter.

The rest of the comments would suggest otherwise...

Let's be perfectly honest though. The people who are getting angry. Where they ever going to actually buy any Slave Leia toys or are they just getting mad on principle because "SJWs" or something. I get the feeling very few were planning on buying one in the near future.

I'm not saying they can't do that, I'm just pointing it out.

In general, who knows? But something certain is the existence of the obsessed Star Wars merchandise collectors. Does this kind of news bother that people?

I'm pretty sure that they already would've gotten anything. That and you can still buy them from Amazon. Disney isn't exactly destroying all the merchandise that ever existed.

They can't get what doesn't exists yet. This news is for future merch: new boxart, new packaging, possibly new models with different details, probably the same cheap materials...

 

[Something Amyss]

I tried, you dodged my attempts and continue to do so.

You're attempting to force a connection. You claim I implied things that I didn't (you assumed and held those assumptions against me), and that I must have meant things because ponies. At this point, I won't be reading responses from you even if they are on topic.

I dont know. I was more coming at it in a sense of 'If you're going to drop something, you need to look at the big picture.' As in, if this isnt suitable for merch, is the original material still worthy of its spot? And thats where my statement came from. Looking at it as 'Yes, the full scene with context is cool, but the merch is a little sleazy.'

From the bits I've read, I dont think you and I disagree, really.

Okay, fair enough. And no, I don't think they should be removing the scenes. In part because it'll probably look like the Count Dooku fight scenes or something awful. >.>

It's just a lot of people have reacted to things that aren't happening, and that kind of muddies the water in terms of what actually is, so...

 

[Erttheking]

This is like 30 years too late to matter.

The rest of the comments would suggest otherwise...

Let's be perfectly honest though. The people who are getting angry. Where they ever going to actually buy any Slave Leia toys or are they just getting mad on principle because "SJWs" or something. I get the feeling very few were planning on buying one in the near future.

I'm not saying they can't do that, I'm just pointing it out.

In general, who knows? But something certain is the existence of the obsessed Star Wars merchandise collectors. Does this kind of news bother that people?

I'm pretty sure that they already would've gotten anything. That and you can still buy them from Amazon. Disney isn't exactly destroying all the merchandise that ever existed.

They can't get what doesn't exists yet. This news is for future merch: new boxart, new packaging, possibly new models with different details, probably the same cheap materials...

It seems a little odd to say your collection won't be complete because of the lack of something that never existed...

Plus this is all unconfirmed at this point.

 

[Something Amyss]

In general, who knows? But something certain is the existence of the obsessed Star Wars merchandise collectors. Does this kind of news bother that people?

Don't collectors generally value the collection process?

The larger problem is that the negative reaction seems to be coming primarily from reactionaries who seem to react just to take a counter stance against something. I imagine most people simply don't care about it.

 

[Diablo1099_v1legacy]

You underestimate the syndicate's influence. Sure they could run in, issue threats until they get what they want or wipe out the place if they don't. Then instead of having someone who was only in the Empire's pockets they get someone who will be loyal to the Empire picking up where Jabba left off and a populace who thinks the rebels are worse than the Empire. It's the same reason why the US military doesn't just just knock over a mafia lord's house to stop their operation. The results are far worse than letting them stay up and under reasonable control.

You have to remember, the whole plan was to strike a deal first with Jabba to let him keep his power base while getting Han back. It just didn't work and they had to fight for their lives. As for the whole Bobba Fett nonsense, that was fan fiction trying to claim that he's too "badass" to be killed that way.

See, I get that, but even if that was the logic you were using, it's still akin to sending Obama in person on the Bin Laden raid.
And if they were to strike a deal (Which if I remember that wasn't the case, seeing how Leia tried to sneak Solo out at night after unfreezing him), I think the "Show up with a flagship cruiser" plan would have still been pretty valid.
Could have been more badass that way too.

Jabba: *springs his trap"
Leia: *holds up a radio "Hey, you guys in place for that Bombing run?...Cool, on my mark..."
Jabba: 'O_O;

It just seems like Leia grabbed the Idiot Ball there with her plan of posing as a Bounty Hunter then busting Han out Solo (PUNS).
Then when Luke showed it up, it seemed more like he was there to clean up the mess rather then that being all part of the plan.

 

[Veylon]

You forgot the part where they took the M-Rated video games out of the children's departments in Australia. I mean, if that's not Political Correct censorship, I don't know what is.

Oh my gosh, you're right!

And then there's that poor bomb-building kid. Back in the good old days, kids used to play with black powder and blow up stumps and such all the time. It was good wholesome fun. Educational, even. But now we make such a big deal about it. Let the kids play!

 

[runic knight]

I tried, you dodged my attempts and continue to do so.

You're attempting to force a connection. You claim I implied things that I didn't (you assumed and held those assumptions against me), and that I must have meant things because ponies. At this point, I won't be reading responses from you even if they are on topic.

No, because basic reading comprehension leads a reader to assume that when someone goes "these people can't understand toys are for children" and you reply "some people can't understand other people are out there", the only reasonable conclusion to draw is that you are talking about the same "people" there. And it is still a horribly flawed statement, as I demonstrated before and as you refuse to address.

I am sorry you have nothing to actually argue against the flaw in your statement, that your dismissive snark at people who share a different perspective is entirely false and demonstrably untrue. I'm sorry you seem to believe that by deflecting instead of addressing that flaw or re-clarifying the statement, you somehow save face, but please stop being disingenuous and trying to claim I am pulling things out of no where. I've explained a few times now where it comes from, what is flawed about it and why it is implied, and every time you avoid it like it is radioactive, even cutting it from your replies to me while still trying to claim it doesn't exist.

You made a statement that was full of holes and, I'll be honest, rather rude and dismissive. Burying your head in the sand because it got called out and then dishonestly representing things when it is called out and requested you address the flaws or re-clarify what you meant is hardly going to make it any less flawed.

 

[Cicada 5]

One of the earlier examples of a damsel literally saving herself by taking out the planets biggest known crime lord and they want to wipe it out? Is it that sexy stuff makes their special places feel all funny and they don't know what to do with those emotions?

Just doesn't make too much sense. It's a much beloved and emulated costume.

They're not wiping out anything. The scene with the outfit will still be in the movie but if the rumors are true it may simply mean that merchandise featuriong that outfit will not be produced.

Besides, it's not like any merch featuring Slave Leia showed her killing Jabba. She's either shown as scared or giving a "come hither" look.

 

[Scarim Coral]

So in another word, if this is true then it means all the current gold bikini Leia merch prices wil skyrocketed?

 

[Cicada 5]

This would make little sense seeing as one of Disney's most popular characters wears a seashell bikini.

Apples and oranges. Ariel was not deliberately portrayed as a sexual object. Leia's outfit was called "Slave Leia" for crying out loud. That alone should tell you the difference.

 

[Redd the Sock]

This is like 30 years too late to matter.

The rest of the comments would suggest otherwise...

Let's be perfectly honest though. The people who are getting angry. Where they ever going to actually buy any Slave Leia toys or are they just getting mad on principle because "SJWs" or something. I get the feeling very few were planning on buying one in the near future.

I'm not saying they can't do that, I'm just pointing it out.

Guess my money for such things will go to an artist alley vendor now. Their posters were better anyways most of the time.

And speaking as someone that does have several games I'd like to get that won't see localization, and was reading Dejah Thoris before her upcoming outcome change, I think I do have a right to ***** about a mindset that either won't be up front about how sex-negative and moralizing it is, or doesn't realize you don't have to take away the sexy to get less sexy things made for your enjoyment.

 

[Cicada 5]

Realistically it isn't much of a problem. There's plenty of merch out there already with the gold bikini, and frankly, who wants to see Carrie Fisher in it now?

In more idealistic levels, just another break in the line: no one wants to take your toys away. You don't need to have zero tolerance for the sexy to make and market the more pragmatic, and yet, here we are.

Forget that some women like it

https://www.facebook.com/leiasmetalbikini/

Forget that in context, it was never bullshit as anything but the result of Jabba's odd fetish for humanoid females.

Forget that she was her most badass in the Jabba arc.

Nah, sexy - anti-wmoan these days.

Next, should C-3PO wear pants?

If she was at her most badass during the Jabba arc and the big take away is that she killed him, then what does it matter what she's wearing. It's not like any merch with that outfit shows her killing the guy.

And Disney not producing the merch doesn't mean people still can't cosplay in it.

 

[Erttheking]

This is like 30 years too late to matter.

The rest of the comments would suggest otherwise...

Let's be perfectly honest though. The people who are getting angry. Where they ever going to actually buy any Slave Leia toys or are they just getting mad on principle because "SJWs" or something. I get the feeling very few were planning on buying one in the near future.

I'm not saying they can't do that, I'm just pointing it out.

Guess my money for such things will go to an artist alley vendor now. Their posters were better anyways most of the time.

And speaking as someone that does have several games I'd like to get that won't see localization, and was reading Dejah Thoris before her upcoming outcome change, I think I do have a right to ***** about a mindset that either won't be up front about how sex-negative and moralizing it is, or doesn't realize you don't have to take away the sexy to get less sexy things made for your enjoyment.

I said A few were, not none.

"I'm not saying they can't do that" I said that. Why the hell are you bringing up "your right" to complain? No one was denying that to you. And sex-negative, ok stop right there. We don't know why this is happening, hell, we don't even know IF this is happening. People are just jumping into the usual Freedom vs Social Justice trenches because that's the only discussion of any size going on on this website anymore. So take a step back and don't jump to conclusions.

 

[MonsterCrit]

Sorry but no. Gold Bikini Leia needs to stay. I mean for starters it's not an outfit she chose to wear it was what she was put in by a big fat crime boss slug ... and honestly it gets even a little weirder when you realize Hutts, like real slugs, are hermaphrodites So it's not exactly patriarchal oppression there since Jabba had a fully set of working girl parts. That's practically slashfic right there. Yeah chew that in your mind's eye Yuri Jabba x Leia slash.


But seriously, She was in for what.. 15 minutes, This is a case where trying to clean something basically says more negative things about the society I mean that basically says that there's something wrong with women wearing gold bikini's. This is essentially Slut Shaming.