Girls DO actually like a guy who can cook... Ladies like to be pampered and they like good food. The older they are the more they'll appreciate it.
The woman you have been with hated it?!TotalHobNob said:I am man who knows how to cook and my friends usually give me shit for it. All the girls I've been with think its weak. So my question is do women like men who can cook really well?
That wasn't what I was stating. I was referring to the effects of gender roles on people's perceptions of a man cooking. Even in reference to proffesional male chefs, it is rarely (if ever) their cooking skill that expresses masculinity. They can be respected for their phenomenal skill, but I have never seen someone say, or look like they want to say, "Wow, that guy cooked me an incredibly fancy meal, how very masculine of him".Sleekit said:dude, basically all the best professional chefs in the world are men...Biosophilogical said:Because cooking well is portrayed as having its own kind of finesse, it doesn't match the overly masculine view of brute strength. Sure, you can say physically difficult tasks like carpentry could have 'finesse', but at that point you are kind of stretching the word to its masculine extremes.Seneschal said:I don't get it; what is so repulsive about being able to prepare food? Even at the most animalistic level, it's a fantastic survival skill. From a civilized viewpoint, it's practically a resume-worthy skill. Hell, put it right there with "speaks Spanish and Afrikaans". You'll be known as "the guy who brings those delicious canapés to the office". How is it manlier and more attractive to be incompetent, it makes no sense!
So yeah, certain skills are not only associated with femininity (cooking, sewing, dancing, etc), but also incorporate an anti-masculine trait (in the case of cooking, it tends to be flair or finesse). Now I'm not saying that men cooking is a bad thing, I myself love to cook (I'm male), I'm just trying to say why I think it may be considered a bad thing, though I think an important point is that it probably matters more to other men than women, seeing how competitive and insecure men can get about their gender identities.
The answer there is still yes... but let us not try and figure that one out.Malikaw said:WHY THE FUCK DID I READ THIS AS "DO GIRLS LIKE MEN WHO CAN TAKE COCK"
Oh god WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH ME
Without the last line explaining it, that logically parses in some interesting ways.Troublesome Lagomorph said:Where I live, if you aren't a chauvinist, you're not a man.
And I don't date men.
I don't swing that way
*heterosexual male, here*
I'd say the manly line is drawn just before a roast. So basically if it is a semi-basic red meat dish, or is the result of a successful hunt (including fishing), then it can be cooked without any social stigma. Also, I think the social view comes from a lingering presence of the house-managing wife stereotype, where the female did all the household chores like cooking, cleaning, sewing, etc. Personally I don't think any more or less of a man (in terms of manliness) if they can cook. I think that a guy who can cook would be desirable for people interested in a male romantic partner, as it seems to show that the man will contribute to the relationship as a full member, rather than letting the woman do all the work while they hang out with mates and get drunk (or whatever hobby they happen to have). As in, it looks more like the is involved in the relationship by not having a clear dependency on gender roles, meaning the relationship is between to equal partners.Sleekit said:eh i've never heard anyone assign or even hint at assigning a sexuality through producing food...well outside the oddly shaped vegetable "joke".Biosophilogical said:That wasn't what I was stating. I was referring to the effects of gender roles on people's perceptions of a man cooking. Even in reference to proffesional male chefs, it is rarely (if ever) their cooking skill that expresses masculinity. They can be respected for their phenomenal skill, but I have never seen someone say, or look like they want to say, "Wow, that guy cooked me an incredibly fancy meal, how very masculine of him".Sleekit said:dude, basically all the best professional chefs in the world are men...Biosophilogical said:Because cooking well is portrayed as having its own kind of finesse, it doesn't match the overly masculine view of brute strength. Sure, you can say physically difficult tasks like carpentry could have 'finesse', but at that point you are kind of stretching the word to its masculine extremes.Seneschal said:I don't get it; what is so repulsive about being able to prepare food? Even at the most animalistic level, it's a fantastic survival skill. From a civilized viewpoint, it's practically a resume-worthy skill. Hell, put it right there with "speaks Spanish and Afrikaans". You'll be known as "the guy who brings those delicious canapés to the office". How is it manlier and more attractive to be incompetent, it makes no sense!
So yeah, certain skills are not only associated with femininity (cooking, sewing, dancing, etc), but also incorporate an anti-masculine trait (in the case of cooking, it tends to be flair or finesse). Now I'm not saying that men cooking is a bad thing, I myself love to cook (I'm male), I'm just trying to say why I think it may be considered a bad thing, though I think an important point is that it probably matters more to other men than women, seeing how competitive and insecure men can get about their gender identities.
you are saying it's feminine. i hear that. never have i heard anyone say such a thing in RL tho.
where do you draw the line i wonder ? is BBQ manly ?
what about gutting and cooking fish you just caught ?
or an animal after after hunting ? are butchers pansys ?
if your making a cake for a child is it manly if its in the shape of a transformer and the child is male or are you a closet homosexual because you cut the same basic cake into the shape of a pony and put pink icing on it for your little girl ?
sooooo many questions...
yes at this point i'm taking the micky![]()
It's not that complicated. In the abstract, watching two hot guys can work for women the same as two hot girls for men. In the more personal relationship sense, it means you can have a threesome with no other girls (if that's your preference and your relationship). Besides, I've totally bonded with partners over noticing cute girls, being bi rocks.Jinx_Dragon said:The answer there is still yes... but let us not try and figure that one out.Malikaw said:WHY THE FUCK DID I READ THIS AS "DO GIRLS LIKE MEN WHO CAN TAKE COCK"
Oh god WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH ME
*sputter*TotalHobNob said:I am man who knows how to cook and my friends usually give me shit for it. All the girls I've been with think its weak.