why not?Spinozaad said:There's not always an answer. If you ask a girl out, and there's no attraction, then there's no attraction. Sure, everything can be rationalized. Doesn't mean it's true.
Actually, if you have reasoned arguments why you are (no longer) friends or lovers, you've never been friends or lovers in the first place.
It can. ;-)Combustion Kevin said:why not?
I can think of several reasons about why I'm friends with someone, or feel attracted to someone else, all it requires is introspection, emotions and attachments are not illogical.
people tend to be rational beings, unless hormones or other drugs are involved.
but I'm pretty sure even that can be put to debate. <.<
I see no reason for not giving a reason, but sometimes, it's better to give a white lie as a reason than the truth, for most often, a white lie is more constructive. It's also how you phrase it. Saying "You're ugly and boring" is a nono, but "I simply don't find you attractive, I guess. personal chemistry is like that" is most of the time acceptable.Combustion Kevin said:I'm pretty sure I'm not the only guy on this forum with romantic misadventures and misfires, rejection and being dumped is part of the course and we know it.
However, today I wish to ask a question to those who HAVE rejected or broken up with someone.
Now don't get me wrong here, turning someone down is not a bad thing, but the reason I ask is that so few people bother to explain why, and I have seen a lot of people claiming that you should never tell, and this philosophy confuses me, really.
for those interested, here's my backstory:
I'm 19 years old and have never had a girlfriend, serious or otherwise, and this is not because of a lack of trying, mind you.
Ever since I was 14 I have occassionally seen a girl that interests me and asked them out (I believe it was about nine in the last five years, could be more).
but time and time again, I face rejection either when asking them out, or after the first date, and every time I am refused the explanation why.
I know it may sound creep-ish but I think it's a fair question, I am simply unattractive for reasons I can only specify upon, with nobody bothering to tell me what's going wrong (except for that one lesbian chick, she was pretty clear about why).
I've been told I don't want to know, that it's only going to hurt my feelings, and I call bullshit on that one, because in the last five years, my confidance has turned to pretense, my attitude to insecurity, and my optimism into a mere mask.
the only thing that all the girls I've dated will unanimously agree on is that I am a "good friend", and that's not helping.
EDIT: When I ask someone out I've already known them for several months, I simply can't imagine being romantically interested in someone that I can not count among my friends first.
so, when asked, do you say why?
How old are you and how many times have you asked/tried to pick someone up?RAKtheUndead said:I've never turned anyone down; I've always been on the other side of rejection. In fact, I have a 100% rejection rate, and I don't think that will ever change. I know the general reasons why, but I'm always left at a loss as to the specifics.
Do you believe it's due to your looks, or some other factor? And if it is due to your looks, are you "aiming withing your league", so to speak. Now I know, you shouldn't judge people solely on their looks, but I'v spoken with several close-to-obese girls that only aim at very attractive, fit guys, and they all whine over "noone liking them". The truth might be harsh, but I'm pretty sure some less attractive guys (on our western-ideal slide of attractiveness) would find them attractive.RAKtheUndead said:23 years old, and enough times that I've lost count. I've never succeeded.Realitycrash said:How old are you and how many times have you asked/tried to pick someone up?RAKtheUndead said:I've never turned anyone down; I've always been on the other side of rejection. In fact, I have a 100% rejection rate, and I don't think that will ever change. I know the general reasons why, but I'm always left at a loss as to the specifics.
Hrm, now that's odd. What exactly are they finding unattractive? And which sort of women do you approach? And at what locals (campus/work/library/bars)?RAKtheUndead said:I'm pretty sure by now that it isn't my looks, and I'm going by what women say and how they react initially. It's my personality, and to change the bits of my personality which turn women off would be to snuff out any bit of distinct personality I have.Realitycrash said:Do you believe it's due to your looks, or some other factor? And if it is due to your looks, are you "aiming withing your league", so to speak. Now I know, you shouldn't judge people solely on their looks, but I'v spoken with several close-to-obese girls that only aim at very attractive, fit guys, and they all whine over "noone liking them". The truth might be harsh, but I'm pretty sure some less attractive guys (on our western-ideal slide of attractiveness) would find them attractive.