zumbledum said:
Combustion Kevin said:
Well thats your problem and why they dont have a good answer. Now ladies speak up if im being unfair here but a man basically has the first 10 seconds to make an impression then about half an hour to follow up on that any longer and hes going to get friend zoned if liked or avoided if not.
reason? who cares its not going to help anyone the answer is simply a case of compatibility or perceived compatibility and its neither a fault nor anything you can fix so just forget it
ah yes, because because getting to know someone before asking them out is a crime these days, ain't it?
how is that supposed to work?
how am I supposed to instantly decide wether I want to persue a relationship with someone the first moments I meet them, that is ridiculously shallow and insulting to both parties involved.
your not supposed to instantly decide if they are marriage material, just if they are attractive, finding out if you can even stand them comes later, on for example the first date. its easy if your over average intelligence as i suspect you are to get too cerebral bear in mind there's a chemical component to all this we share with all other mammals it is shallow it is crude but its also normal.
ok you want to go the other way and get to know them first, i get it i do, i was the same and i had a near 10 year constant refusal and rejection rate, you are only at 5 years .. so far .
you don't have to be sleazy or a douche bag you don't have to come on strong, simply project an interest that goes beyond friendship. from the very first moment onwards you are building a relationship your either a potential mate or your not . now if you find you don't get on in that way you can default back to friendship and that can be as fast as the first flirty innuendo going over wrong . but you already have a fair amount of experience at taking a friend relationship and trading up goes.
not saying it doesn't happen but we both have life experience to say its rare.