First, I wouldn't really use the word "belief" when explaining my opinion about aliens. However, I don't really know what other word would be better, so for the sake of the reply, I'll use that. I "believe" aliens exist, have existed and will exist; the universe is far too big for us to be the only life form that ever emerged. However, by saying "aliens", I think a lot of people immediately assume that it means "intelligent life". When I talk about aliens, I include every living organism, which means bacteria, algae and similar. So yes, they probably exist. Intelligent life is, likely, much less common in the universe, but it probably does exist too, somewhere in the universe. It would be kinda ridiculous to think there's no other intelligent life; only our galaxy contains billions of stars and planets. And there's billions of galaxies. The possibilities are endless and I don't think life is an isolated phenomenon that appeared just on Earth.
Did any alien life-form intentionally visit Earth? I don't think so. Aside from the sloppy footage, conspiracy theories and crazy people, evidence is scarce. More importantly;
Hummmy said:
Alright so from what I gather, most of you believe aliens exist.. But don't believe they've visited earth or ever will?
But if they're aliens.. And happen to be WAY technologically advanced than we are, what's to say that a light year to them is not all that far?
That traveling between galaxies is easy for them?
I'm not trying to tell you all that you're wrong, I'm just creating more discussion and getting my idea out there.
I wanted to address just that in my reply to the thread. The most important question is not how, but why would they visit us. How would they find us? Even if they are technologically advanced and faster than light travel is familiar to them in one way or another, there is an enormous amount of questions to be answered. Actually, the act of travelling towards us is just the tip of the iceberg and it's not really that important. Some more important questions are; how did they find us, how many of them found us, what is their interest, why did they put so many resources and time and effort to visit us and then do nothing instead of flash lights in our skies, what do they intend to do, and so on. If some intelligent life form truly visited us, what would possibly be their motive? Why don't they attempt to contact us? What are they doing anyway? Researching us? Wouldn't it be easier if we were a bit more connected? Besides, if they really have such advanced technology to come here in the first place, wouldn't they have some technology to research us from afar? Why would they do freak light shows in the sky for no obvious reason? Another important thing to note is the fact that those "sightings" are waaay too different for them all to represent a single intelligent life form that visited us; so, how mane of them did?! And how come all of them put so much effort in coming here, and yet they behave like curious children that stare at you, but when you look back at them, they run away? What kind of highly intelligent life form with extremely advanced technology, interstellar travel and, obviously, the interest to explore the galaxy would behave like that; dancing in our skies in pretty formations for 10 minutes and then going away? Seems like a rather... retarded way of exploring other planets. I suppose they should know science, being all advanced enough to find us and reach us, and even us under-developed humans (in comparison with them) know how to, hypothetically, approach an alien race (we sent those golden records with inscriptions about us, our solar system and some of our basic science knowledge with Voyager 1 and 2, AND we sent a radio signal containing certain information about us with the Arecibo telescope). I'm sure they would be careful, and try not to provoke a war (unless they're evil galactic bitches, but they wouldn't try to be careful then), but they sure would know there are ways to make peaceful contact, maybe we wouldn't even be the first other intelligent life form they encountered.
Maybe they are so alien that we can't logically comprehend their motives, but I still believe they would approach this problem scientifically; which means there are some ways, set in stone, to make sure the other party understands you and to know that you're a peaceful intelligent being (showing the understanding of simple mathematics for example and, of course, not wave weapons at us). No matter what your beliefs are, what kind of a creature you are, what logic do you follow and how your brain works, there's a way to communicate with someone strange. Intelligent beings from outer space that mastered interstellar travel, took time, energy, resources, work force and effort to find us and visit us would know that. What these types of sightings (from the video) show us; apparently, they don't know that. Which, in my opinion, is a very poor evidence that those lights and phenomenons are aliens, or we're dealing with galactic idiots. And a lot of them (which is another logical evidence against those lights being aliens, because, statistically, there HAS to be SOMEONE in the universe who visited us (according to those videos) and who isn't a complete moron).
Interesting point in any case, but the more I think about it, the less sense it makes. It would be awesome if we were visited, but apparently, even if we were, they have no interest in us whatsoever, or they would have already contacted us by now. They surely see that we are advanced, it's hard to confuse our metropolis' with natural formations (unless, you know... galactic idiots. Maybe they just like our nature and come to sightsee, like we go to national parks. Shame on them for not paying us).
Ulquiorra4sama said:
I laugh at people that are so arrogant they actually think the inhabitants of planet Earth are the only living things out there.
Also i fully support the idea that the best proof that aliens exist is that we were only visited by aliens once... back when we learned to build pyramids. After that they didn't want to come anywhere near us again and that's why none of the close planets are inhabited.
While the pyramid theory is really exciting, everything I wrote above, applies to it still. Besides the fact that if they taught us how to build the pyramids, it means they made a contact with the ancient Egyptians, but it was a rather silly contact and a rather silly alien race. They had all the technology to get to us, but the only thing they did was build us a monument of stone (marvellous and exquisite as it is, but it is still just a monument of stone). They didn't even bother to give Egyptians the wheel or the knowledge of the number zero, for example. Or, you know, some better metal than bronze, like iron. No, they came all the way to Earth from whatever part of the universe, to build a pyramid. And of course, what pyramid? First pyramids were not really that great, they were more or less attempts to build such a thing, but were not perfect. It took the Egyptians five hundred years to build the Giza complex; so did they just build us the Giza complex? Why on Earth would they do that? Just think about it for a second. Interstellar travel is not simple, no matter what you do to manage it. Why would they do something like that just to build three pyramids in the desert for, to them, primitive beings? If the motive was to help the Egyptians, aliens would have known that it would be much wiser to give them tools and scientific knowledge. If the motive was for the Egyptians to worship them as gods, they
still could've given them tools and knowledge. Maybe some medical knowledge for example, or maybe a better governing system than worshipping a Pharaoh. Maybe the aliens are far too different for their medicine to be useful to us, but then it brings more questions; how did they communicate with the Egyptians in the first place? Did the aliens somehow tell them how to build the pyramids, or did the aliens just did it on their own and left the planet? Again, why the hell would they do that?
Despite the fact that those theories are interesting and exciting, they have little to no evidence. And the little evidence they have, makes no sense in terms of actual science. The Giza complex is, in my opinion, the best thing humanity ever built, and we still don't know the exact method conducted to do so (there are more than enough theories, none provable as of now), and just because we don't know, it doesn't mean help from above. "I don't know" is a perfectly valid scientific answer. It's a lot better than wild assumptions like "The aliens did it". I really love this topic, especially when it ventures into the talk about the pyramids, but I study archaeology and I will be a scientist; there is absolutely no evidence that the pyramids were not built by humans (and it is rather insulting to ancient Egyptians and all the civilizations that were influenced by them to say that those monuments were built by aliens). Involving aliens in pyramids is not simplifying the problem; it's making it even more complex and entangled in a few million extra questions.
