Do you believe in love?
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I have a question for you, how old, were you when you were in these relationships? Teens? twenties? If yes to one or both: It's very hard to find a member of your list (A list i'll go into later) during this time period, most times you have a crush, a big one, simple as that. You will let the crush become somewhat obsessive and end up thinking it's love. Then you realize she/he isn't for you and you end up thinking questions like the one you just asked.
This list now, Is a list of who you're compatible with: From least to greatest, number one on your list would technically be considered "THE ONE" but there's a whole lot more out there (it depends on the person) and however you live your life and make the choices you made will determine who on that list is where you're going to land.
This list now, Is a list of who you're compatible with: From least to greatest, number one on your list would technically be considered "THE ONE" but there's a whole lot more out there (it depends on the person) and however you live your life and make the choices you made will determine who on that list is where you're going to land.
Well, if what this guy says is any indication I should:
To be serious I'm not entirely sure. Personally I've never experienced such a thing. But my parents have been married for 40 years and are still reasonably happy together, there must be something there. At the end of the day love is probably really close friendship with someone you lust after, someone you're attracted to. I'm too young to have much of an opinion on this, but that's my observation anyhow.
As for the scientific look at this, people say it's 'just a chemical reaction in your brain' and such. Aren't all emotions that? Arguing that love isn't an emotion or something along those lines is saying that no emotions are real, and I'm pretty sure that everyone can agree that saying emotions aren't real would be incredibly stupid.
To be serious I'm not entirely sure. Personally I've never experienced such a thing. But my parents have been married for 40 years and are still reasonably happy together, there must be something there. At the end of the day love is probably really close friendship with someone you lust after, someone you're attracted to. I'm too young to have much of an opinion on this, but that's my observation anyhow.
As for the scientific look at this, people say it's 'just a chemical reaction in your brain' and such. Aren't all emotions that? Arguing that love isn't an emotion or something along those lines is saying that no emotions are real, and I'm pretty sure that everyone can agree that saying emotions aren't real would be incredibly stupid.
With that said you can end the thread.Sneaky-Pie said:
It's quite ridiculous to believe love doesn't exist.
I'm trying to become a film director, you can get a lot of messages across through film. You can by a lot of other things, but film's just my way. A long shot? Perhaps, but better than my other option; sitting around not doing anything.666Chaos said:
Not everyone who says the world's s*** plans on not doing anything about it. Remember that.
What a strange question. It's like asking "does heroin exist?" Certainly it does. Whether it's the be all end all of human existence is another matter.
Love is complicated. It's a noun and a verb. We taught the noun version of love, the feelings and ideas, and all the magic it's suppose to bring; yet no one tells us that love is also a verb. It requires actions and sometimes work. It's not just a complex set of feeling that overwhelms us. It's always hard work. Painful work, tear-jerking, emotional roller-coaster work.
To answer your question is Love real. Yes, it real, just don't get caught in the fantasy of love. Understand the time and effort must be put into. Love is real, it sometimes the people in love that are fake.
To answer your question is Love real. Yes, it real, just don't get caught in the fantasy of love. Understand the time and effort must be put into. Love is real, it sometimes the people in love that are fake.
It is a sad thing that so many married couples end up that way, love is rare but I do think it exists, case in point:
<spoiler=Warning - Sad>As I said, it's rare but it can happen, and that's the kind of love I strive to acheive someday, if I do then y life will have been worth living
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So yes, I do believe in love
<spoiler=Warning - Sad>As I said, it's rare but it can happen, and that's the kind of love I strive to acheive someday, if I do then y life will have been worth living
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So yes, I do believe in love
Love is like Santa Claus.
...Stay with me here.
For three months out of the year, Santa Claus is everywhere. He's on magazine covers and soda cans. Half the malls in the country offer fat, red-suited old men as centerpieces. We see him on TV, hear his voice on the radio. He's more a part of the public consciousness than most of the figures in government. So many words and images of Santa Claus clog our culture, it could be argued that Ol' Saint Nick has more of an existence than anyone on this forum.
Aliens looking down from orbit could very well misinterpret Santa as a religious figure of great importance. No matter how many times we humans see him, we will never be inspired to have faith in him, the way we might in a deity. As adults, we recognize him for the commercialized illusion he is. We acknowledge Santa's existence, but we don't believe in him. Only children believe, and only until they're educated on the matter.
I acknowledge the existence of love. I just don't believe in it.
...Stay with me here.
For three months out of the year, Santa Claus is everywhere. He's on magazine covers and soda cans. Half the malls in the country offer fat, red-suited old men as centerpieces. We see him on TV, hear his voice on the radio. He's more a part of the public consciousness than most of the figures in government. So many words and images of Santa Claus clog our culture, it could be argued that Ol' Saint Nick has more of an existence than anyone on this forum.
Aliens looking down from orbit could very well misinterpret Santa as a religious figure of great importance. No matter how many times we humans see him, we will never be inspired to have faith in him, the way we might in a deity. As adults, we recognize him for the commercialized illusion he is. We acknowledge Santa's existence, but we don't believe in him. Only children believe, and only until they're educated on the matter.
I acknowledge the existence of love. I just don't believe in it.
In the least cynical sounding way I could say this, "Love is a trick played on the mind by nature to get us to reproduce."
I could have a long rant about how love is rare, and hard, and takes a lot of effort. Or I could talk about my great grandpa who, after his wife died, was refused by the nursing home because he was too healthy, but died when he stopped eating because he just didn't care about life anymore. Or my wife's grandparents who usually win the "who's been married the longest" competitions and wouldn't know what to do without the other one.
Or I could follow Genericjim101's lead and let Dr. Cox do the talking for me:
Or I could follow Genericjim101's lead and let Dr. Cox do the talking for me:
And to everyone using the immune system compatibility research to say that love is just a chemical reaction, you really need to understand something: there's a difference between "I like how you smell" and "I want to be with you every day for the rest of my life." If you like how the other person smells, living with them is a lot easier, but it's not a requirement, and liking the smell of someone is definitely not the same as loving them.Genericjim101 said:
The bigger question is...
Humans require social interaction to feel complete, and this need can be fulfilled by friendships or more intimate relationships. Either way find joy by the people in your lives at present, forcing the existence of something just doesn't work.
Humans require social interaction to feel complete, and this need can be fulfilled by friendships or more intimate relationships. Either way find joy by the people in your lives at present, forcing the existence of something just doesn't work.
No offense, but all these naive posts make me sick. Love is defined by humans to explain a feeling we think is unique to us. It's a result of chemical signals being secreted into our system telling us who to reproduce with. At some point we're all controlled by our chemicals and our genes.
Yeah, sometimes a friend of the same gender dies and we feel depressed over it. What is depression? A series of chemicals being secreted making us feel depressed.
Sure, the feeling is real just like any other feelings. It's what we got after countless years of evolution. The romantic idea of love is however just an idea.
Yeah, sometimes a friend of the same gender dies and we feel depressed over it. What is depression? A series of chemicals being secreted making us feel depressed.
Sure, the feeling is real just like any other feelings. It's what we got after countless years of evolution. The romantic idea of love is however just an idea.
A life without love is terrible.
Love is like oxygen!
Love is a many splendored thing!
Love lifts us up were we belong!
All you need is love!
On a personal note, you'll know when you find love as I have. His warming smile is contagious and his warm embrace is all the comfort I need no matter how bad the day gets.
Love is like oxygen!
Love is a many splendored thing!
Love lifts us up were we belong!
All you need is love!
On a personal note, you'll know when you find love as I have. His warming smile is contagious and his warm embrace is all the comfort I need no matter how bad the day gets.
I don't know if I do. I've never been in romantic love before, so I can't really be sure. One part of me does really believe in romantic love but another part tells the first one to stop being so silly. I guess I'll have to wait and find out.
I do know that I don't believe in love at first sight though, for two people to fall in love the have to spend time together and really get to know each other. Two people have to spend enough time together to grow close enough to want to spend the rest of their lives together. Love is cultivated, it doesn't just form out of nothing. I also don't believe in soul-mates, I don't think that any two people are "destined" for one another, a person should be able to find love anywhere, not just with one specific person.
It may just be chemical signals in our brains but why does that mean it's not still love?
I do know that I don't believe in love at first sight though, for two people to fall in love the have to spend time together and really get to know each other. Two people have to spend enough time together to grow close enough to want to spend the rest of their lives together. Love is cultivated, it doesn't just form out of nothing. I also don't believe in soul-mates, I don't think that any two people are "destined" for one another, a person should be able to find love anywhere, not just with one specific person.
It may just be chemical signals in our brains but why does that mean it's not still love?
I'm one of the most indefatigably cynical people on Earth, and even I accept that love exists. Is it a neurochemical reaction, which keeps a couple together long enough to raise their offspring to a point where it can fend for itself? Yes. Does that lessen its significance? No, of course not, don't be ridiculous. The Sun is just a gravitationally stable point of fusion, but watching it move from behind the horizon will still make you feel inspired each morning.
It's not as much as a smell that we can emulate with products such as deodorant. It's something subtle, something we don't notice ourselves. It's there and it determines a lot about who we actually end up loving. Recent research shows that some birth control pills can actually make women unable to feel the smell and will sometimes end up hating their spouse when they quit using them.Azuaron said:
Now I am not sure if you know how smell works. There are molecules that will attach themselves to receptors that connects with your brain to give you a signal what it is. The more complex molecules causing smells are usually organic molecules that have different configurations. Such as E and Z, R and D and combinations of these two. The molecules wont always fit with out receptors since our receptors also have different configuration. I've 2 substances that were made of the same atoms and almost the same structure. However one of them were leaning the other way. I was able to smell a difference between the two, some were unable to tell them apart.
The substance in our sweat that we believe is there to help us pick who to mate with works in a similar fashion as normal molecules. However instead of activation the receptors and telling us what we smell it activates receptors that start secreting the chemicals that tell us we love the person with that particular substance in its sweat.
I know it's awful, but I always find your comments on this kind of thread vaguely amusing. Thank you.RAKtheUndead said:
As for me... Sure, I believe in love, but it's not necessary to like someone in order to love them (as evidenced by 80% + of familial love). And, as ever, it annoys me that English has more words for whore than it does love. Makes it remarkably hard to describe.