Do you hate your wii
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WII:At least tis not lieing to you with shiny over priced under deved games and calling them hard core(FYI hard core died a few years ago before the industry started to focus on shiny rushed games that the casual mainstream video game market eats up without realizing what crap they are consuming)
360:Bearly worth the price and fail rate.
PS3
ose not have any games worth the price.
Don't get me wrong to play all the good games you have to have all the systems but the more costly ones are simply not worth it anymore, gaming is becoming like car hobbies and sure you can say you own and drive a frari yet can't afford the maintenance on the SOB. Gaming is like that only you get the performance of a compact....
If you still don;t get it the core of my rant is that the game industry is 90% casual since nearly everything is made for the wittless casual gamer and if its made for the casual consumer will its made for non gamers but that's a slightly different rant... the game industry like hollywood is watering down the product so it can sell to a wider base at the cost of qaulity.
uhg rant mode is over 9000 ><
360:Bearly worth the price and fail rate.
PS3
ose not have any games worth the price.Don't get me wrong to play all the good games you have to have all the systems but the more costly ones are simply not worth it anymore, gaming is becoming like car hobbies and sure you can say you own and drive a frari yet can't afford the maintenance on the SOB. Gaming is like that only you get the performance of a compact....
If you still don;t get it the core of my rant is that the game industry is 90% casual since nearly everything is made for the wittless casual gamer and if its made for the casual consumer will its made for non gamers but that's a slightly different rant... the game industry like hollywood is watering down the product so it can sell to a wider base at the cost of qaulity.
uhg rant mode is over 9000 ><
Nope, I still find the Virtual Console one of the best innovations of the current console generation. Also there are plenty of games on the platform I really like. Fanboys should stop whining and simply buy another console if they don't like the Wii.
The wii is like the frisbee of the gamer crowd...everyone played with it...but then they realised how boring it actually is!
I'm disappointed, but I don't hate it. The only few games that have been properly good have been Nintendo's classics coming back, Zelda, Mario, Metroid Smash Bros., etc.
It's been a huge amount of 3rd party development companies trying to get their go at a "motion sensitive" game these being Games which only the most whining to their Granny 5 year old would get.
Although, as a few people have said the virtual console is genius.
It's been a huge amount of 3rd party development companies trying to get their go at a "motion sensitive" game these being Games which only the most whining to their Granny 5 year old would get.
Although, as a few people have said the virtual console is genius.
My point is just that about 99% of the titles considered "casual" aren't even made by Nintendo, other than rethoric and a very small number of titles they have done nothing for the "casual" gamer yet people act like Nintendo is making nothing but "casual" games. How many minigame collections were made by Nintendo? Wii Sports (which was more of a tech demo for the system), Wii Play (a tutorial for the controller) and Wario Ware (has been around since the GBA), maybe Wii Fit if you count that as games. Just counting the big titles, Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Zelda TP, SSBB and Mario Kart you get more core games than "casual" games so why do people act like Nintendo has shifted all of its production away from the core? That's not even the complete list of core games they made for the Wii while the list of "casual" games is pretty much complete. They make 2-3 times as many core as "casual" games! Except for rhetoric I don't see any real focus there. Yes, Nintendo isn't making many core games but that's mostly because they are one company that has to make games for two systems and simply can't make that many games. I don't think they're making fewer games than during the GC period. Of course they're not going to produce a PS2-level library alone, noone can do that!Brainbomb said:
What's missing is a decent output from third parties who don't seem to be interested in making anything serious for the Wii as if the thing was still in the last place like the Gamecube. The Wii is half the console market now! What does it tell you when the big anticipated (or recently released) games for a system are published by a has-been (Sega) and developed by teams that didn't even exist before? What are the big publishers even doing? Oh, right, racking up losses with games like Mirror's Edge.
It is?!?Spaz91 said:
What about jive? Do people still say that?
All the cool kids are still saying fresh, right?....right?
*tumbleweed rolls by*
Um...well....you see....
No, I don't "hate" it. And like a year ago I would have gone fanboy on you, (I know, sometimes it makes me cry too.) I still have fun with it and deep down I will always love making extremely deranged miis (there's the drag queen, the hobo, the shark man, W, the bizarre midget with giant sparkle eyes located where his ears should be and a mouth practically on his neck my brother's friend dubbed SHEYAKAZEE) and I love Brawl but...
I think the X-Box 360 has my vote and my inner mac lover (who is also my outer mac lover) is now trying to cut its way out of me whilst doing as much damage possible to my innards when I say that.
No, I don't "hate" it. And like a year ago I would have gone fanboy on you, (I know, sometimes it makes me cry too.) I still have fun with it and deep down I will always love making extremely deranged miis (there's the drag queen, the hobo, the shark man, W, the bizarre midget with giant sparkle eyes located where his ears should be and a mouth practically on his neck my brother's friend dubbed SHEYAKAZEE) and I love Brawl but...
I think the X-Box 360 has my vote and my inner mac lover (who is also my outer mac lover) is now trying to cut its way out of me whilst doing as much damage possible to my innards when I say that.
I've said it before, I'll say it again; The wii is a great big pile of useless crap. The only decent game I played on it before it got locked away in a cupboard like a big family secret which everyone pretends not to remember and never talks about, is Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08. This was because the controller actually worked well as an interface and made the game specifically different enough from other console versions to warrant buying it for the wii. To date I have not found another wii game of which the same can be said. On top of this, the graphics are shite.
I don´t hate it....
Infact i´m not even aware of my wii, because it´s covered in to much dust.
My 14 years old sister doesn´t even wan´t to play it because it´s to "childish", my problem is just that there aren´t any good games for it expect a handfull first party ones.
And the controller-design is terrible!
I won´t talk about the gimmik, but the buttonlayout.
The area your left thumb has to cover ist the entire front of the wiimote even though the buttons could have been concentrated on one spot.
Moving your thumb 180° in order to move from (Up) to (2) is not only unhealthy and hurts it also takes a ton of time....
Which is why developers have to avoid most buttons for reaction based functions.
Infact i´m not even aware of my wii, because it´s covered in to much dust.
My 14 years old sister doesn´t even wan´t to play it because it´s to "childish", my problem is just that there aren´t any good games for it expect a handfull first party ones.
And the controller-design is terrible!
I won´t talk about the gimmik, but the buttonlayout.
The area your left thumb has to cover ist the entire front of the wiimote even though the buttons could have been concentrated on one spot.
Moving your thumb 180° in order to move from (Up) to (2) is not only unhealthy and hurts it also takes a ton of time....
Which is why developers have to avoid most buttons for reaction based functions.
Mirror's Edge was a chance. Aren't you criticizing publisher's for NOT taking those?KDR_11k said:
MY point is that the 1% of games that you mentioned is what made the Wii big. You think it's the core games that really sold Wiis? And yes, Nintendo IS making core games, but that's the problem. Nintendo's core games will sell no matter what (not to say this isn't the same for all the console companies to some degree, but Nintendo is infamous for it).
Further, I haven't played ALL of Nintendo's releases for the Wii (really, only Twilight Princess and SSBB), but from what I've seen and played, they're all just copy and pastes of the same old formula. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Nintendo fan (conservatively), and I would LOVE to see them start some new franchises. But I can't see Nintendo ever doing that.
While we're on the subject, I would like to point that it IS hard to make a Wii game feel organic, and like I said earlier, there are some good third party games out there (again,Okami. Love that game) that do that. And these companies know that. You can't expect companies just to whip up high-quality games for the Wii for the sake of your argument. Motion sensing controls are (from my experience) buggy, and therefore, inherently flawed. It's always nice to see innovation, but not JUST for its own sake. I've had control issues with both Twilight Princess and No More Heroes, so it seems to me that its not just an isolated problem. And don't get me started on SSBB; its doesn't even USE motion sensing at all. Unless you count the smash option, but if you do count that, then you're really stretching.
Last point: I don't think it's reasonable to use the Wii's success as some kind of point in the failure of the third party developers making games for it. I do hope you see why.
Wii... that sounds familiar... oh the thing that's been collecting dust since Super *Make Money* Brothers Melee came out? Yeah, I bought MadWorld for it, still haven't played it. It's an overrated system with a bunch of shovelware, marketed towards old people and non-gamers. I've officially lost all respect for Nintendo.
I don't really hate it... tho the major failing in this system is not enough games over the Teen rating, heck even those rare among the sea E-rated games in the library that are completely coming out every half-month or so...