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ItsNotRudy

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
ItsNotRudy said:
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So wait, that's what a Doner Kebab is? We actually have those in the US, but they're called Gyros (pronounced euro like the currency, not gyro as in gyroscope). It's something you get from Greek restaurants, although I understand Greek and Turkish food is very similar.
Doner Kebab is lamb though, Gyros is pork.
Where'd you get that idea? I've never heard of a gyro made of anything but lamb.

Edit: Looks like it depends on the country in question. In the US, they're almost always made out of lamb or a blend of lamb and beef. In the rest of the world, if it's called a gyro and not a kebab or shawarma[footnote]interestingly enough, all three names can apparently refer to the same thing depending on what part of the world you're in[/footnote], it's more likely to be made out of pork, chicken, or veal.
When it's made with veal/lamb, I think it loses the name Gyros. Afaik only pork and sometimes chicken can carry the name Gyros.
 

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Upon this island, there is but a single kebab shop (that I am aware of). Since the end of last year, they have been closed. I miss them ;~;
 

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Damn it. I want a kebab so much now. While they are a staple of drunken food I eat them sober every so often. Sometimes I just get a craving.
 

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the very best kebabs however are those served in the Indian run kebab houses.

Lamb Tikka kebab, whole chunks of lamb in a spicy sauce on a 2 foot long spike of steel ended with a whole onion, cooked in a tandori oven until the onion is sweet and falling apart. and served in a freshly cooked 14 inch long garlic naan

the meat is lovingly wrapped in the naan goodness and then is whipped of the skewer and the onion broken over it. best served with some mango sauce, whole chilies and if you are on a date some salad.

eat it OPEN using hunks of naan to cradle the meaty goodness and entire chillies in one amazing feast.

always fed me at night and also breakfast on the way into uni.
 

Owyn_Merrilin

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ItsNotRudy said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
ItsNotRudy said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
So wait, that's what a Doner Kebab is? We actually have those in the US, but they're called Gyros (pronounced euro like the currency, not gyro as in gyroscope). It's something you get from Greek restaurants, although I understand Greek and Turkish food is very similar.
Doner Kebab is lamb though, Gyros is pork.
Where'd you get that idea? I've never heard of a gyro made of anything but lamb.

Edit: Looks like it depends on the country in question. In the US, they're almost always made out of lamb or a blend of lamb and beef. In the rest of the world, if it's called a gyro and not a kebab or shawarma[footnote]interestingly enough, all three names can apparently refer to the same thing depending on what part of the world you're in[/footnote], it's more likely to be made out of pork, chicken, or veal.
When it's made with veal/lamb, I think it loses the name Gyros. Afaik only pork and sometimes chicken can carry the name Gyros.
Like I said, it's got to be regional or something. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyro_(food)#United_States

I know wikipedia isn't a great source, but it backs up my experience with the actual food -- you check the menu at pretty much any Greek restaurant, it'll say it's either lamb or a blend of lamb and beef.
 

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Kababs are merely what the weak Turks call Souvlaki. Which is a Greek thing and the best food ever.
The real question is have you had a souvlaki from a lebanese take-out joint that uses toum instead of tzatziki? Toum is superior to tzatziki in the same way tzatziki is superior to generic 'garlic sauce'.
 

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rob_simple said:
Ah, you Englishmen and your kebabs...What, are you on a diet? Trying to get in shape for swimsuit season? I mean, you've not even deep-fried anything. Come to Glasgow and treat yourself to a pizza crunch...



If you order two at once in most chip shops you get a free place on the transplant list at the Royal Infirmary.
is that...... a deep fried pizza?
 

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When I saw this thread the first thing I thought of was this.



I was wrong, but I still wasn't disappointed.
 
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rob_simple said:
Ah, you Englishmen and your kebabs...What, are you on a diet? Trying to get in shape for swimsuit season? I mean, you've not even deep-fried anything. Come to Glasgow and treat yourself to a pizza crunch...



If you order two at once in most chip shops you get a free place on the transplant list at the Royal Infirmary.
I've just had a thought...


A deep fried doner kebab pizza...


That would cure all the alcohol poisoning.
 

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Its a sheep product, a very heavily spiced and processed sheep. we used to sell it at my pizza shop , the fat that thing puts out you wouldnt believe! People taste is quite similar to pork btw.
To be more specific, döner kebab is usually lamb, though it can actually be any kind of meat or fish (pork is pretty rare, given it's origins in Islamic countries). I'm not entirely sure about this, but the fattiness is supposedly to keep the meat from drying out.

well i think its going to depend on where you are, Here in England we have so many imigrant populations we have food from every corner and we tend to blend it and change it.
Doner is that amazingly fatty because of the cuts of meat used in making it and of course it acts as a binding agent and the big flavour, but we also do chicken doner's, hell we have chicken tikka / tandori doners for that matter. in the north in big indian cuisine areas like manc and birmingham , getting a donner in naan with different sauces is pretty common.
if its pork we tend to call it shish, which as i understand it means 5 not pork, so that makes no sense ;)
 

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RhombusHatesYou said:
Evil Smurf said:
Kababs are merely what the weak Turks call Souvlaki. Which is a Greek thing and the best food ever.
The real question is have you had a souvlaki from a lebanese take-out joint that uses toum instead of tzatziki? Toum is superior to tzatziki in the same way tzatziki is superior to generic 'garlic sauce'.
I will as soon as possible. I love garlic.
 

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They've even gone high-tech!!!


Translated transcript: The machine never tires, the machine never sleeps, the machine is always in store before the chef and cuts the doner meat sweat free.


They've even built it in Minecraft

 

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I was rather spoilt by my first ever Doner kebab.
I had it on Cyprus so it was a proper one, stuff with freshly cooked meat and salad.
Suffice to say, I was slightly disappointed when I tired the greasy crap we have here.
Having said that, they always seem like a marvelous idea when I'm drunk.
 

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ItsNotRudy said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
ItsNotRudy said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
So wait, that's what a Doner Kebab is? We actually have those in the US, but they're called Gyros (pronounced euro like the currency, not gyro as in gyroscope). It's something you get from Greek restaurants, although I understand Greek and Turkish food is very similar.
Doner Kebab is lamb though, Gyros is pork.
Where'd you get that idea? I've never heard of a gyro made of anything but lamb.

Edit: Looks like it depends on the country in question. In the US, they're almost always made out of lamb or a blend of lamb and beef. In the rest of the world, if it's called a gyro and not a kebab or shawarma[footnote]interestingly enough, all three names can apparently refer to the same thing depending on what part of the world you're in[/footnote], it's more likely to be made out of pork, chicken, or veal.
When it's made with veal/lamb, I think it loses the name Gyros. Afaik only pork and sometimes chicken can carry the name Gyros.
Guys, let's not fight over the glory of the Doner Kebab. In America, we usually use the Greek word (because in the past we had a lot more Greek immigrants than Turkish); in Europe, they usually use the more common Turkish word. The farther east you go, the more likely they'll call it shawarma.
It's just that simple: Regional dialects and immigration patterns... and secret family recipes. ;)

I've never eaten a Gyro or a Kebab that wasn't made with some lamb, because lamb is awesome. I wish Americans ate more of it, although the fact that Americans don't eat much lamb may explain some of the confusion of terms.
 

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I'm more a steak kebab fan (usually found 0.5 metres left of the Doner Kebab.

and Plenty of House sauce, I have no idea what it even is but its delicious.

If theres room left for puddin' why not get a Deep friend Mars bar?
 

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I love myself some Döner.

Be wary, though: Look at it first before buying one. Some of them use low quality minced meat... the good stuff looks like the kebab in the OP's mustache picture. You can see the layers of pieces of meat impaled on the pike, whereas the other two pictures show no layers and are thuse made of minced meat, most of the time very low quality.
The height of that one was what made me try "Berlin's cheapest Döner" once... it was basically like chewing gum (I still suspect there must have been some saw dust in there) and thus it ended up in a trash can.

Go somewhere else and pay 50 cents more for a proper one. It tastes infinitely more awesome.
 

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zumbledum said:
well i think its going to depend on where you are, Here in England we have so many imigrant populations we have food from every corner and we tend to blend it and change it.
Doner is that amazingly fatty because of the cuts of meat used in making it and of course it acts as a binding agent and the big flavour, but we also do chicken doner's, hell we have chicken tikka / tandori doners for that matter. in the north in big indian cuisine areas like manc and birmingham , getting a donner in naan with different sauces is pretty common.
if its pork we tend to call it shish, which as i understand it means 5 not pork, so that makes no sense ;)
Shish (şiş) is Turkish for 'skewer', so in Turkey, şiş kebap are grilled meat skewers, similar to Greek souvlaki.

Which is kinda confusing, since 'kebab' also refers to a wide variety of skewered meals from the Middle East and beyond. Shawarma, Mexican tacos al pastor and Greek gyros could similarly be considered kebab (and are supposedly derived from Turkish döner kebap).

But like you said, it depends on where you are. Traditionally the meat is lamb (as I should've said in the first place), but people adapt it to their own local tastes and religious customs.

For instance, in Belgium döner kebap is made of beef, because lamb is comparatively expensive here and since döner kebap is almost exclusively sold by (muslim) Turkish immigrants, pork is out of the question too, though many shops also have chicken döner. Adding french fries, often stuffed into the pita bread alongside the meat and veggies, is common, as is adding a few green chili peppers. Belgian kebab shops also tend to offer a lot of different sauces, often a dozen or more, and we like mixing sauces for maximum flavor effects (usually garlic sauce and sambal oelek).