Dr. Phil Yells At Woman For Her FarmVille Addiction

Gildan Bladeborn

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JWAN said:
Im not apologizing for anything Im just amazed that you think the whole gaming community falls into your opinion of a video game.
There are few issues in life that cannot be solved via the careful application of a truly enormous ego. Knowledge is power!

JWAN said:
Im not defending the game Im defending peoples right to play what they want. Are you the child of Atkinson or something?
Then you aren't very good at A) Arguing or B) Reading, as this last statement aptly illustrates - nowhere in any of my posts was there even the suggestion that Farmville should be banned, or that individuals should have their rights to 'play' incredibly lame things (for entirely imaginary quantities of fun) curtailed in any way. Of course they should be allowed to piddle away their free time doing monotonous thankless work masquerading as entertainment for people with such exceptionally dull lives that a heaping serving of repetitive tedium is perceived as a marked improvement*. Next you'll tell me I want to ban 'staring fixedly at nothing in an ultimately futile attempt to discern individual oxygen molecules with the naked eye', an equally valid waste of exceptionally boring people's time.

All you'll find in my previous posts is mockery that hit a little too close to home for your sensibilities, and your latest response is either a transparent attempt to make me look bad via comparison to gaming culture's public enemy #1, or proof that you are bloody terrible at skimming and should probably read things through in the future. Either way I win, huzzah for me!

[small]*Just because I agree that you should be allowed to do something doesn't mean I agree to refrain from ruthlessly mocking you for doing it.[/small]
 

Sixties Spidey

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Yeah! How dare you waste your time on a game that isn't even worth any amount of fucking time in the first place!
 

CrafterMan

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I hate Farmville.
I hate Doctor Phil.

So where does this leave me? :)

Both are a complete waste of time and space for middle aged women who can't "get some".

/opinion
 

Yopaz

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Really, why does everyone hate Dr. Phil? I don't like the show, but he's not lost. He gives good advice without mentioning any of Freud's theories. He gives advice in a simple way, not something you actually need a degree to get, but I've always found the whole deal with psychologists pretty sketchy. This article isn't about what the headline says. It clearly states that Dr. Phil is a jerk and he shouldn't pretend that he isn't a jerk, because he's so much of a jerk that the part of him being a jerk is a whole person living in a tiny apartment in New York.

Sadly addiction to Facebook apps is rising among people. It's sad. I tried Farmville or something similar on Facebook, I'd say it's OK if you got nothing else to do, but I got bored pretty soon.
 
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Taneer said:
So it's alright for him to talk down at games YOU don't like, but once he starts judging fairly, suddenly lines have been crossed.

Anyways, I really do hate that everything has a few people who give it a bad rep. I'm sure not everyone who plays Halo online is a teabagging, curse-screaming cocknugget, but there's a bunch of people who spoil it for everyone. Not everyone who listens to rock sacrifices virgin chickens to appease their god, but the few who do ruin it. This is one of those people, and that's their own problem.
That's what I was trying to infer. Did I miss some memo where the little ":p" had its meaning changed from "ha-ha, sarcasm"?

I do hate FarmVille, though.
 

SimuLord

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You know what? FarmVille (and other Facebook and casual games) serves a very useful purpose. It keeps the women occupied so they don't piss and moan at us guys for playing WoW or Madden or Total War or whatever games WE play instead of spending time with them. It's like sticking a pacifier in the seizure-inducing maw of a crying baby.
 

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ahiddenfigure said:
Normally I return fire on people ragging on video games, but in the case of that piece of crap Farmville, I'm willing to do a 180 and say, "good on you, Dr Phil!"
mhmm that's right, FarmVille is just so...blehh
 

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Bloody Crimson said:
Aren't games supposed to be an escape from reality?
Not always.

I mean, what the hell is so disconcerting in my life that I play Silent Hill to escape from anyway? o_O

There are many other perfectly good reasons to play games besides escapism.
Well yeah, I will give you that. That's why I game personally, when I have a bad day I'll play something to put myself in a place away from my problems. It works.

I guess my main point is games are meant to be [super] realistic and boring and like life. I don't even know where I'm going with this.
 

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Bloody Crimson said:
Well yeah, I will give you that. That's why I game personally, when I have a bad day I'll play something to put myself in a place away from my problems. It works.
Better than smoking.

Bloody Crimson said:
I guess my main point is games are meant to be [super] realistic and boring and like life.
I don't think they are meant to, but a lot of games have been going for that style anyway.
 

Therumancer

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Dr. Phil sometimes has some good stuff to say, but for the most part I think he's out of context with reality despite being able to simplify what he says. For one thing, he's the wrong generation to really deal with today's world, and especially the plight of Generation X many of which are hitting their mid 30s without having accomplished much, for reasons which have little to do with them.

I don't much care for Farmville, but to be honest even dumb people need escapism, especially in the world as it is now. Whatever works, works. Any form of escapism can go to an unhealthy level, but that can be hard to judge, especially from the outside.

A lot of the advice Dr. Phil gives makes a certain degree of sense when you realize he was born in 1950 (according to Wikipedia) and is pretty much a sheltered academic. Textbook wise things make sense, especially when you look at the world the way it was when he was growing up. Consider I am 34 and was born in 1975, which means he was 25 years old already by the time I was being born. Also, sociology has a lot more to do with today's problems than psychology. Your looking at a lot of problems that can't be adequetly addressed on an individual level, because before you could do so effectively things would have to change in society in general.

To put things into perspective, I live in an okay (but not great) part of the city of New London. Right around some doctor's offices and such, and within walking distance of the beach. Even here we had a rather obvious crack house operating right accross the street which was eventually busted and reported in the papers and everything. People do still jog and such, but when someone like Doctor Phil makes comments like that, you have to go "WTF" since he has no idea what the area someone is from is like. The world wasn't quite like this back then (it wasn't Utopian, but things have gone down hill a bit), and I think he just does not see it at times.

I think Dr. Phil like many older sorts does not really understand the idea of gaming being a hobby as opposed to just something you do for casual entertainment. A lot of people just do not get the appeal of doing something like virtual adventuring, or farming, or even building up a big gamerscore and a bunch of graphical trophies (or whatever). To an older set modeling, or gardening, or whatever with an actual physical (if equally useless) product would be a hobby, but this is no longer the case. It's a shift in perspective that doesn't translate well accross generational lines.

Farmville is sort of like an online hobby game for people too dense or too poor to play World Of Warcraft (despite how often the player base is maligned). It can command a similar amount of involvement to say modeling, fishing, or dozens of other things a "Dr. Phil" would find normal.

At any rate, maybe the lady was taking things too far, but I think he's equally out of line and out of context.

That said, despite everything I've said about him, Dr. Phil is still pretty well educated and has helped a decent number of people. Take him with a grain of salt, but I figure anyone with his backround deserves some degree of respect.
 

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Gildan Bladeborn said:
Why the hell would anyone intentionally go about raising virtual crops for fun - what's next, Cubicle Drone-ville, where you shepherd your virtual office worker through the grind of the ole 9-5?
Sooo, I take it you're not familiar with the insanely popular Harvest Moon series of games?
 

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kawaiiamethist said:
Gildan Bladeborn said:
Why the hell would anyone intentionally go about raising virtual crops for fun - what's next, Cubicle Drone-ville, where you shepherd your virtual office worker through the grind of the ole 9-5?
Sooo, I take it you're not familiar with the insanely popular Harvest Moon series of games?
Oh I've heard of them, I just always assumed there was more to it than simply "you're on a farm, go raise some crops!". Insanely popular is not a correct assessment unless you append "in Japan" after it though. Harvest Moon manages "somewhat well known among the specialist gaming crowd" everywhere else.
 

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Gildan Bladeborn said:
kawaiiamethist said:
Gildan Bladeborn said:
Why the hell would anyone intentionally go about raising virtual crops for fun - what's next, Cubicle Drone-ville, where you shepherd your virtual office worker through the grind of the ole 9-5?
Sooo, I take it you're not familiar with the insanely popular Harvest Moon series of games?
Oh I've heard of them, I just always assumed there was more to it than simply "you're on a farm, go raise some crops!". Insanely popular is not a correct assessment unless you append "in Japan" after it though. Harvest Moon manages "somewhat well known among the specialist gaming crowd" everywhere else.
It's not as popular as in its native Japan, but it's also very popular in the west, which is why they continue to release it here.
 

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Gildan Bladeborn said:
Why the hell would anyone intentionally go about raising virtual crops for fun - what's next, Cubicle Drone-ville, where you shepherd your virtual office worker through the grind of the ole 9-5?
Pssh! Next you'll be saying Harvest Moon sucks. Two words: RUNE. FACTORY.
OT: Is Dr. Phil even a real doctor...?
 

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FarmVille is crap. But still, it's just a game.

Someone should write their own analysis for Dr. Phil: "Don't you understand? Step away from the cake. The cake doesn't exist, the cake is a lie. Start losing some weight!"