Let's take a walk through what I like to call... The angry gallery. Cue the music:Kahunaburger said:I'll agree with "memorable."DrVornoff said:
Dragon Age 2 is superior to the first despite what everyone says
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Are we talking about that pile of week old donkey afterbirth they crammed into a DVD and called Dragon Age 2? Well whenever this topic comes up I'd be amiss if I didn't relay the tale of my neighbor's dog shitting on my walkway. You see nobody likes dog shit on their walkway so I had to go clean it up. Having nothing better to clean it up with I used my Dragon Age 2 disc. Well upon seeing this my neighbor came out of his house as angry as I've seen a person. He couldn't believe I was getting a Dragon Age 2 disc all over his dog shit.
That being said I'll go against my better judgement and assume the OP isn't simply trolling. However, rather than go into detail I will simply list DA2's many flaws in bullet points.
* Nothing but a poorly made cash grab as evidenced by a development period of a year or less.
* One dungeon copy/pasted through the entire game
* Combat artificially extended through waves of mobs that simply appear out of thin air.
* There is more personality to be found in my morning shit than there is to be found in the majority of NPCs
* The entire story takes place in a single city and is poorly connected from one act to another leaving the player unable to give a shit.
* Combat dumbed down to the point of (and I quote random Bioware employee) "When you press a button something awesome has to happen" *See video below for further explanation*
* Kirkwall was totally and completely lifeless and saw no advancement from one act to another.
* Outside of main character you couldn't upgrade individual equipment on any of your toons.
* Players' actions had ZERO consequences.
* Was written in part by a person who was on record saying the following "Yes! This! You guys have no idea how cute Merrill is. I work here and and I still squee when she says things I haven't heard.
There's a lot of this in the writer pit:
Merrill (in-game): (something unbelievably cute)
Sheryl: GIGGLESQUEE!!!!! SO CUTE!!!
Mary: Hee hee.
Sheryl: She's so adorable I love her and want to hug her omgIcan'tbelievehowadorablesheisCAN-I-NOM-HER-HEAD?!
Mary: ... No."
. . . . buy yeah other than that Dragon Age 2 was just tops fella. And for everyone who enjoys hearing about how awesome things happen with a mere press of a button in Dragon Age 2 here's an EA/Bioware rep to explain it to you over and over and over
That being said I'll go against my better judgement and assume the OP isn't simply trolling. However, rather than go into detail I will simply list DA2's many flaws in bullet points.
* Nothing but a poorly made cash grab as evidenced by a development period of a year or less.
* One dungeon copy/pasted through the entire game
* Combat artificially extended through waves of mobs that simply appear out of thin air.
* There is more personality to be found in my morning shit than there is to be found in the majority of NPCs
* The entire story takes place in a single city and is poorly connected from one act to another leaving the player unable to give a shit.
* Combat dumbed down to the point of (and I quote random Bioware employee) "When you press a button something awesome has to happen" *See video below for further explanation*
* Kirkwall was totally and completely lifeless and saw no advancement from one act to another.
* Outside of main character you couldn't upgrade individual equipment on any of your toons.
* Players' actions had ZERO consequences.
* Was written in part by a person who was on record saying the following "Yes! This! You guys have no idea how cute Merrill is. I work here and and I still squee when she says things I haven't heard.
There's a lot of this in the writer pit:
Merrill (in-game): (something unbelievably cute)
Sheryl: GIGGLESQUEE!!!!! SO CUTE!!!
Mary: Hee hee.
Sheryl: She's so adorable I love her and want to hug her omgIcan'tbelievehowadorablesheisCAN-I-NOM-HER-HEAD?!
Mary: ... No."
. . . . buy yeah other than that Dragon Age 2 was just tops fella. And for everyone who enjoys hearing about how awesome things happen with a mere press of a button in Dragon Age 2 here's an EA/Bioware rep to explain it to you over and over and over
There's your problem. Finish it and then come try to explain why you think DA2 is better than DA:O.taiwwa said:
[sub]I'll be waiting[/sub]
Ehh, to be far when it happend to me I wasn't exactly playing it on the highest settings, and it was generally more amusing than annoying.DrVornoff said:
I should point out that I don't hate DA2 as much as my jokes may suggest, it's just that it's a lot more fun to make jokes about DA2 than the original. The worst thing you can say about DA:O is that you found it dull, which while it is a pretty huge point against it doesn't make for good comedy.
That reminds me of these kids who were a year below me in high school. They tried to tell me that Fallout 3 was better than Oblivion because the controls and gameplay were more "fun".Vivace-Vivian said:
Of course its subjective but thats not my point.
That's because you played it wrong by not choosing mage origin, and then rolling 2-3 mages deep on nightmare mode without pausing. Can't blame the developers for your insisting on playing in the most boring way possible.taiwwa said:
Sure if you like disjointed meandering political discussions that railroad you down a set path without any visible reason to do so. Episodic content? Sure. A singular cohesive game with a consistent direction? No.taiwwa said:
taiwwa said:
No shit its later in time and the graphics industry moves fast.taiwwa said:
Fights lasted way longer in DA2 than DA because they would throw wave after unending wave of shitty units at me. In DA I could just herd them, nuke the whole pot, and be done with an area in 30 seconds. Unless you mean like revenants which were gay as hell and pretty avoidable too.taiwwa said:
Yes so annoying, not at all like DA2s combat where any damage = fly backwards and take 5 seconds getting up. Because forever stun locked by unavoidable enemy arrows = the best gameplay ever. If there's one thing I love in a game it's watching my character flop around on the ground for 30 seconds while my controls are unresponsive and the enemies kill me.taiwwa said:
Number of abilities is not synonymous with depth.taiwwa said:
lol what?taiwwa said:
Really? Alistair? The guy who 90% of his dialogue was him whining?taiwwa said:
I could give less of a shit about menus and stats. DA was better than DA2 and ME2 was better than ME, for oh so many reasons. And no, DA2 isn't a horrible game. It just made a few really horrendous decisions and by comparison to the origional DA is a step backwards.taiwwa said:
Ah you have been secluded for too long OP, I'm sure that in your room all your opinions equal facts but out in the real world it's not quite like that.
DA2 is RPG for the casual age, less content, less dialogue, less decisions, less complexity,... just so the players can have a stroll through without any effort, or get confused on any major story.
DA2 is RPG for the casual age, less content, less dialogue, less decisions, less complexity,... just so the players can have a stroll through without any effort, or get confused on any major story.
I really hope OP is mistaken, because I had the choice of buying both for cheap yesterday and I went for Origins because of the huge shitstorm when DA2 came out.
You made the right choice. Whether you like DA:O or not it is easily the better game. DA2 is just a rush job. That it came out even remotely coherent was a miracle. Barely over a year of dev time, tons of bugs, completely unbalanced combat, nearly all strategy thrown out a window, some of the craziest launch DLC I've seen ever (seriously how many places did they partner up with), some of the ugliest models I've ever seen for characters and a worthless plot with horrible writing. If you don't like DA:O then sorry but at least you got the better game.rob_simple said:
I miss that too. I was actually thinking of registering for Something Awful because of that but then they locked it and when I checked the reasoning it was because they didn't like it. Yeah I'm not going to pay $10 to register for a forum where they can ban me because I'm not good enough for their taste. Screw that.Soviet Heavy said:Dammit I miss that Let's Play. It might not have been the one that Something Awful wanted, but it was the one the game deserved. I wish they hadn't gassed it.Kahunaburger said:I'll agree with "memorable."DrVornoff said:
Dragon Effect 2 was an awful game that ruined everything that was great about it's predecessor.
They changed the combat which was one of the main selling points of DA:O.
They changed the art style - the only positive change was the Qunari, they absolutely butchered the Darkspawn so much that they look stupid now and the elves.
It had a nonsensical ridiculous plot.
It had stupid anime combat instead of gritty Lord of the Rings style fighting.
They retconned every decision you made in the previous game.
They ruined the carefully constructed atmosphere of the first game and made it utterly generic fantasy tripe.
They removed Origins stories in favour of some static snidey protangonist who's family just died.
The rise to power concept was implemented terribly.
It will never be forgiven unless they make DA:O2.
They changed the combat which was one of the main selling points of DA:O.
They changed the art style - the only positive change was the Qunari, they absolutely butchered the Darkspawn so much that they look stupid now and the elves.
It had a nonsensical ridiculous plot.
It had stupid anime combat instead of gritty Lord of the Rings style fighting.
They retconned every decision you made in the previous game.
They ruined the carefully constructed atmosphere of the first game and made it utterly generic fantasy tripe.
They removed Origins stories in favour of some static snidey protangonist who's family just died.
The rise to power concept was implemented terribly.
It will never be forgiven unless they make DA:O2.
i do agree, i think DA2 is a great game, dont get me wrong DA:O was a great game too but i think i liked DA2 better, i actually also think that the story in the DA2 was more immersive because it was more tighter put to place, DA:O story was somewhat generic and all over the place
I also found the first one boring, but I made myself play through it. It's nothing special and I was against the thought of getting DA2, because I disliked the first one. DA2 was much better though and I found it more fun to play.
I love it when I turn on the internet and have someone tell me what I should think.taiwwa said:
Yo sir are clearly a king amongt men, your opinion should be law and everything shrinks beside your greatness.
#if only I possessed the sagacity that you clearly wield.
I thanks you once again.
A problem I had with 2 is that you still have the same companions 10 years on. In Origins I could accept it as you needed them to stop the blight. But in 2 if I have to wonder why i'm still sticking with the crazy possessed mage and why I can't just go out and get some more normal friends
The best thing the gaming community ever did for me was hate on DA2. I had pretty high expectations initially and the criticism it got drove those expectations into the ground. When I finally got it there was no way I could be disappointed. But then the opposite happened - I absolutely loved it. The adventure was brilliant; dull in places certainly but fantastic otherwise with some truly epic and memorable moments. And I'm sure I would have been gutted if my expectations had not been lowered
In DA2 you get to chose something at the end of the quest...but it makes no change at all cos you end up railroaded down the same path of KILLING EVERYONE whatever happens.taiwwa said:
No chance to save your mum, no chance to negotiate with the Arishok, no chance to save the Viscount.
The lack of choices in DA2 is painful.