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Yup, but he now nearly wins by default.
(And I still wonder why most of the die-hard Duke defenders these days are people who are too young to even remember DN3D releasing, let alone being old enough to be allowed to play it when it was still a relevant game...)
(And I still wonder why most of the die-hard Duke defenders these days are people who are too young to even remember DN3D releasing, let alone being old enough to be allowed to play it when it was still a relevant game...)
You know, I at least wished that the game would be either really, really bad, or really really good.
But to spend 13 years in development just to come out mediocre? That... that just sucks. At least if it was really horrible it'd be notable in some way.
We lost one of gaming's best jokes to mediocrity. Son of a *****.
But to spend 13 years in development just to come out mediocre? That... that just sucks. At least if it was really horrible it'd be notable in some way.
We lost one of gaming's best jokes to mediocrity. Son of a *****.
Exactly. And to be honest, if you're expecting a game to be held up completely by graphics and gameplay in this day and age, go back to the corner and play with your toy train-set. So DNF apparently takes gameplay elements from most other FPS', so what? How is it that people still think there is innovation to be had in the gameplay of an FPS? Everything has been done before. The appeal of this game is supposed to be in the attitude, not the fact that the Duke can only carry two weapons and doesn't zoom around at the speed of a Maserati MC12.Tinneh said:
EDIT: And if it had kept the classical gameplay elements that Duke Nukem had (back in 1996), it would still have been lambasted by critics. To quote a certain charismatic stallion (From his Mortal Kombat review), it would have been struggling for relevance in this day and age. And most reviewers would probably see it as a Serious Sam rip-off with more tits.
Yeesh, Yahtzee is going to gloat the hell outta himself in the duke nukem review. The OP's description of it is almost EXACTLY the same as Yahtzee's prediction of it.Irridium said:
It's dem dang consoles again, destroying all that's good and wholesome in the world. Next they'll be takin' our women folk!Worgen said:
Honestly though...
Is this... is this like the absolute response to anything negative with games for some people? Consoles this, consoles that. What is this, the freaking nineties?
The gameplay mechanics are key to the game's "attitude." In DN3D, Duke was a badass packing an over-the-top arsenal that could deal with just about anything. Duke being only capable of carrying two guns at a time in DNF detracts massively from his original (and quite frankly comical) badassery. Add to that the fact that the regenerating health system effectively rewards cowardice and well......DNF's Duke looks like a complete ***** compared to the one in DN3D. Duke panting like he's got lung cancer after sprinting for 20 yards doesn't help with the whole badass image, either.shrekfan246 said:
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actualy in this case I think it might really be their fault, I was reading some dev stuff about it and they said they didnt have enough buttons to do more then a couple weapons since they wanted to have quick use items and such, so as I said, I think its cause of consoles and them not being creative with the controlsOutright Villainy said:
I'm with you on the last bit, but I honestly don't care about the other two. Have you tried to play Quake 4 recently? Sure it's not difficult, but it's annoying as hell to get through a firefight with only 10 health left and no armor and then have to reload from your last save because you went into another room and instantly got killed because you literally had no way of getting any health back (either by backtracking or trying to find a health terminal further ahead).Urh said:
Yeah, regenerating health is unrealistic, but if anyone could heal bullet wounds by channeling the masculinity of their neck muscles, I'd expect it to be Duke Nukem.
And carrying only two weapons? Okay, admittedly, such a muscle-bound freak should probably be able to carry a small armory but again, it's not something that would break a game for me.
It's entirely the latter. Just look at Half life 2 or Bioshock for good examples of how to handle multiple weapon systems in console games. Blaming consoles for restricting them is them just making lame excuses. If they said it was a design decision: fine. I wouldn't like it, but at least they'd have a good reason. Blaming controllers? Bullshit. It's easily serviceable with the dpad, that's what it's bloody there for.Worgen said:
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you see those dont have the items that duke does, like the holoduke and such which they still included and I guess couldnt figure out a quick way to use those and more then 2 weaponsOutright Villainy said:
I bought it for the comedy side of things - no such luck - he just regurgitates one liners that he's already done - sad 
I finally got around to playing the demo last night and was insanely underwhelmed. It's an absolute mess, it's dull, I was bored playing it and nothing flowed properly. There are very bad design decisions that prevent anything being fun. Why does Duke get so puffed out after sprinting for a few seconds? How can he only carry 2 weapons? How can he die so easily? Why does the game take so damn long to load back your checkpoint? Why do the vehicles control so goddamn horribly?
I'll stop... I know it's an old build, but from what I've been looking up it seems pretty much what the final game is like. I almost pre-ordered it in anticipation of being a genuinely fun FPS which I've been wanting for ages. I am very, very glad I didn't, it is the exact opposite of what I and others expected it to be. I'll buy it when it's 20 dollars, mainly for the novelty value.
It just makes you want to play Duke 3d/Duke 64 again instead, that's a better game.
I'll stop... I know it's an old build, but from what I've been looking up it seems pretty much what the final game is like. I almost pre-ordered it in anticipation of being a genuinely fun FPS which I've been wanting for ages. I am very, very glad I didn't, it is the exact opposite of what I and others expected it to be. I'll buy it when it's 20 dollars, mainly for the novelty value.
It just makes you want to play Duke 3d/Duke 64 again instead, that's a better game.
Agreed with you on all points. Look at Timesplitters, Half Life 2 (probably the best example of weapon select on consoles) etc.Outright Villainy said:
Hell, even Duke 64 had a good weapon select and handled fine. The developers half assed it and wanted to shift the blame to console people, because they knew PC players would get all elitist about it and love another pointless reason to look down on consoles. Good job guys.