#DumpStarWars The new hashtag boycott

[KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime]

So what do you guys think about this?

It's exactly the same boycott that The Force Awakens had thrown at it and it's done by the same people. When this sort of thing is supported by places like Infostormer and The Daily Stormer, that erases any credibility this boycott could have. Especially considering the main characters are basically "Not Kyle Katarn" and "Not Jan Orrs". Which points to the fact that they killed the Extended Universe specifically so they could plagiarize the crap out of it. That last bit right there is the reason people should boycott Rogue One, not the stupid political propaganda from both sides of the political spectrum.

Speaking of which... The hypocrisy about virtue signaling is just too much to bare. When the boycott it self is relying on it's own kind of virtue signaling. Especially with so many people taking potshots at feminism, the "GAY AGENDA!", and the "filthy jews", and best of all "political correctness run amok". It floors me how many people buy into these politically motivated smear campaigns of entertainment media.

 

[Tanis]

OMG AND THE PREQUEL TRILOGY WAS TOTALLY A DIG AT GWB N' THE CATHOLIC CHURCH!
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For all the talk of 'lol liberards, lulz sjw, grow a pair homo homize' crap from the right...they really do seem to have some thin skin whenever THEIR group MIGHT be targeted.

Then again, Trump claims he won the popular vote...and keep LYING about voter fraud.
-Then again, the whole GOP does this when THEY'RE the ones who keep restricting the vote...because it's the only way they can win elections nation wide.

So...to all the right-wingers:
Come on, grow a pair, you think skinned conservtards.

 

[KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime]

Disney has been a beacon of progressive views for a fair while. Perhaps not during the time of Snow White, but even Cinderella is a fuck you to those who step on the little guy. Or girl and mice in that case.

If you dont like that Disney thinks the world should be a good place, thats on you.

Sure, I mean Walt himself did allegedly take an interest in the "Aryan Social Justice" movement of the 1930s.

Just so you know that was a baseless attack conjured up by the American Communist party to label Walt Disney as anti-Semitie and destroy his career. Because Walt was vehemently anti-communist and wanted the US to go to war with Nazi Germany while they were still allied with Soviet Russia.

 

[cthulhuspawn82]

All the google search results and twitter posts related to #dumpstarwars seem to be liberals talking about how stupid and hypocritical right wingers are. Not much of actual people protesting. It seems to be based off one tweet from some controversial Trump supporter.

If 99% of the results associated with #dumpstarwars aren't people boycotting star wars, then its not a boycott hashtag. It's a hashtag for launching childish, ad hominem attacks and calling everyone right of center a nazi. If that's all you see when you search for the hashtag, then that is what the hashtag is.

 

[Fox12]

Oh, I thought it looked pretty good

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Can we stop pretending Star Wars has ever been anything more than movies about space monks and laser porn? People want to throw in a joke about Trump, fine ... but it's not as if you're going to watch it for that.

I am specifically going to see it in cinemas solely because I'm hoping the screen time to be dedicated on blaster porn.... sue me, the blasters were always cooler than the lightsaber to me. They're like WW2 retrofied sci-fi guns that shoot lasers. That's far cooler looking and sounding.

Frankly, the pitch of; "Imagine sci-fi version of The Dirty Dozen, with conventional WW2 movie-esque cinematography comprised of SOE style hijinks on the run from things like bipedal and quadripedal mech-tanks..." isn't a fucking sold moment for you and you otherwise like Star Wars, you are a joyless soul.

Trump's a public figure. This is a movie about space nazis. Everything is tongue in cheek.

This is why fanboys and faux fanboys ruin everything...

 

[StatusNil]

Sure, I mean Walt himself did allegedly take an interest in the "Aryan Social Justice" movement of the 1930s.

Just so you know that was a baseless attack conjured up by the American Communist party to label Walt Disney as anti-Semitie and destroy his career. Because Walt was vehemently anti-communist and wanted the US to go to war with Nazi Germany while they were still allied with Soviet Russia.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I will consider it a possibility. You understand I can't take it as the final word on the subject just because someone says so on the Internet, but it's obviously not wholly implausible.

Come to think of it, I probably should have known better than to take a cheap shot like that just to be a smartass anyway. But I didn't. And that's why I don't do "social media".

 

[Smithnikov_v1legacy]

It gets worse....

 

[KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime]

Sure, I mean Walt himself did allegedly take an interest in the "Aryan Social Justice" movement of the 1930s.

Just so you know that was a baseless attack conjured up by the American Communist party to label Walt Disney as anti-Semitie and destroy his career. Because Walt was vehemently anti-communist and wanted the US to go to war with Nazi Germany while they were still allied with Soviet Russia.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I will consider it a possibility. You understand I can't take it as the final word on the subject just because someone says so on the Internet, but it's obviously not wholly implausible.

Come to think of it, I probably should have known better than to take a cheap shot like that just to be a smartass anyway. But I didn't. And that's why I don't do "social media".

One of the biggest points of evidence, is all the pot shots that Walt took at Nazi Germany before the US got into the war, going back years. Things like Donald Duck in Naziland, which included the song "Der Furtherer's Face". At the time Russia and Germany were still allies and American Communists were driving the anti-war peace movement. They made an immediate about face when Germany declared war on Russia in mid 1941, leaving the rest of the peace movement shocked and confused. Still because Walt Disney was very, very against Nazi Germany so early on, the American Communists tried to silence him by destroying his reputation. Again due to the fact that Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were allies and thus American Communists saw the Nazis as their allies, and American Communists had something of a love affair with Joseph "Uncle Joe" Stalin. The American Communist party pulled similar stunts on a lot of other pro-war media figures before Germany's invasion of Russia in June of 1941. It's really interesting history actually.

I can't blame you for buying into the anti-Walt Disney stuff. That was pushed so hard that tons of people still believe it and very people know the actual story behind it all.

 

[bastardofmelbourne]

"Fascist" is a term for a particular historic political movement. If you want to compare the Empire to that, you can. But it's not "fascist".

This, I feel, is very much a crucial distinction.

What are you getting at here? That the Empire isn't fascist because it's fictional, or that it's not fascist because it doesn't meet the historical criteria for fascism?

I mean, if it's the first one it's like, "duh, allegory," and if it's the second, I gotta disagree with you - the Empire is pretty fascist. I'm talking in the classic, authoritarian, strength-in-unity, bundle-of-sticks kind of fascism. The Emperor basically said "We're for reals in a big dangerous war that I definitely didn't orchestrate, so we gotta give the authority super emergency powers and all like, band together and not question me when I say to do things." That's pretty fascist.

 

[Erttheking]

And butthurt little hypocrites continue to have opinions that they think matters.

I'll buy ten tickets to make up for them.

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

Guarantee all they did was have an imperial officer say "Make the Empire Great Again".

 

[KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime]

And butthurt little hypocrites continue to have opinions that they think matters.

I'll buy ten tickets to make up for them.

And this people, is the sort of behavior we can blame for having a Star Wars movie every year, until we're sick of the franchise and it sucks.

 

[Erttheking]

And butthurt little hypocrites continue to have opinions that they think matters.

I'll buy ten tickets to make up for them.

And this people, is the sort of behavior we can blame for having a Star Wars movie every year, until we're sick of the franchise and it sucks.

...Kyuubi? It was a joke. Chill. Out.

(Also I liked the Force Awakens and I don't mind that Star Wars is still going, sue me)

 

[KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime]

And butthurt little hypocrites continue to have opinions that they think matters.

I'll buy ten tickets to make up for them.

And this people, is the sort of behavior we can blame for having a Star Wars movie every year, until we're sick of the franchise and it sucks.

...Kyuubi? It was a joke. Chill. Out.

Yes... Also right back at you, because mine was a joke too.

(Also I liked the Force Awakens and I don't mind that Star Wars is still going, sue me)

I liked The Force Awakens too, and I don't mind that Star Wars is still going... Still, the whole thing of doing a new movie every year, that's asking for trouble. They are likely going to run the franchise fully into the ground before they decide to stop making movies every year.

 

[Erttheking]

And butthurt little hypocrites continue to have opinions that they think matters.

I'll buy ten tickets to make up for them.

And this people, is the sort of behavior we can blame for having a Star Wars movie every year, until we're sick of the franchise and it sucks.

...Kyuubi? It was a joke. Chill. Out.

Yes... Also right back at you, because mine was a joke too.

(Also I liked the Force Awakens and I don't mind that Star Wars is still going, sue me)

I liked The Force Awakens too, and I don't mind that Star Wars is still going... Still, the whole thing of doing a new movie every year, that's asking for trouble. They are likely going to run the franchise fully into the ground before they decide to stop making movies every year.

Ah. My bad. Sorry, everyone's in a sour mood about everything nowadays and Poe's Law.

 

[Souplex]

I wasn't planning on watching the movie because it feels like an unnecessary cash-grab, but now I have to, because now its success or failure sends a message.
Damn you Alt-Right.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Just so you know that was a baseless attack conjured up by the American Communist party to label Walt Disney as anti-Semitie and destroy his career. Because Walt was vehemently anti-communist and wanted the US to go to war with Nazi Germany while they were still allied with Soviet Russia.

They were never allied. They had a neutrality pact. Germany, Austria and the Soviets were basically counting down the hours before either of them would be the first to make a move. The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was purely about; "Totally won't invade, honest. So how much crude can we buy/sell?"

Even Stalin precogged to Lenin that the West (in the Georgian's mindset, including the remnants of the dissolved Austro-Hungarian Empire and Germany at the time) would never cease trying to aggressively manipulate the revolution. Made all the more poignant by the disastrous Allied Intervention into Russia .... which consisted of a handful of battles, and basically the entirety of the West staring at the hordes of soldiers that would be willing to fight them off like they did Napoleon before and collectively the entirety of the West went; "Nope."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War

Nobody talks about this war for a reason ... it was the intervention that made Stalin seem a prophet and birth a key player in the fight against fascism that would divide Europe for over 40 years. "I accidentally Europe ... is this bad?" sums it up nicely. Though on the flipside, the Soviets would end another more brutal conflict down the line... so is it a fair trade?

In short the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was a stopgap. Gave the means for Germany to increase their stockpiles of oil, reduced potential casus belli for the Russians to further develop their industrial strength... and by organising the Polish divide meant that Germany, at least for awhile, had a collected force that unless they broke off maneuvers in Poland could be temporarily be checked by the Soviets on the other half of the Polish sphere... it gave the Russians time to militarise. Neither of them could afford to break it too soon.

After all... neither of them had anything to lose. The entirety of the West would happily turn guns against an undefended Soviet Union... they made that pointedly clear 20 years prior. So Stalin or Hitler wasn't prepared to provide materiel to the West... because why would they? They had their own problems... namely still building the infrastructure to maintain a total war footing.

It was a pact of convenience, though both knew it was temporary. Once again, definitely not an 'alliance'... it was more like; "We cool... for now?"

Attacking Germany wouldn't magically help draw in Russia. So not sure what drugs he was on.

 

[Dragonlayer]

I do enjoy how these displays of utter stupidity take off with zero evidence whatsoever. No preview material where Darth Trumpus appears in a hologram to declare his intentions of building an intergalactic wall to keep Bothans out of the Empire (and rightly so, disgusting vermin undermining the glorious Empire), no interviews where the writers giddily declare how they've really stuck to that meany-pants President-Elect, no evidence of any form imaginable: just someone said something *loosely* connected on social media. That said, I do think calling the Empire a white-supremacist organisation in reaction to the election was a moronic move, and very much pandering to anti-Trumpists because white-supremacy is utterly meaningless within the context of Star Wars. The Empire was not built on a fixed ideology of white Anglo-Saxon superiority, it's like saying the Imperium is evil because African-American women make 10 credits less then white males in the acid mines of Hive cities.

Also! Come the fuck on! The enemy wins the election so you go "Well hey everyone, pop-culture's go-to guys for absolute black and white super-villainy ALSO had some similarities to the President-Elect if you squint hard enough, NUDGE NUDGE WINK WINK SEE HE'S EVIL CUZ DEATH STAR TRUMP VADER SITH DARK SIDE"? Call Trump the vapid twat that he is if you must, but don't embarrass yourself with this kind of reaching.

"Fascist" is a term for a particular historic political movement. If you want to compare the Empire to that, you can. But it's not "fascist".

This, I feel, is very much a crucial distinction.

EDIT: If anything, it's a pseudo-theocratic absolute monarchy, which is very much the opposite of Fascism See two posts down for how I was wrong, though I stand by the following. There may be similarities: emphasis on strong central leadership, use of heavy-handed force to maintain order, sexy uniforms, but not everything "bad" is automatically Fascist.