Dungeon & Dragons: Daggerdale Review
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Urgh, did not enjoy this game, not one bit. Its buggy, terrible sound and the camera annoyed the hell out of me.
Dark Alliance & Demonstone did D&D action rpg waaaay better.
Dark Alliance & Demonstone did D&D action rpg waaaay better.
Well, that's because Forgotten Realms is one of the bigger settings, if not the biggest, currently in use. And, thanks to the Interplay games and Neverwinter Nights, it's also the most prominent one for CRPG games. There've been two Eberron games (Dragonshard and DDO), however.CM156 said:
That said, the D&D license was in legal turmoil for a bit, hence why we're only just getting new D&D games this long after Neverwinter Nights 2.
I know, and it really sucks. Speaking as a DM, there is so much that can be done with Forgotten Realms. Granted, my story is ripping off NWN2 to such a degree, but I am adding a few diffrent things.coldalarm said:
Also, they call Bane "The Lord of Darkness". That is true, but he is more well known as "The Black Hand" or "The Black Lord" or "The Lord of Tyranny". When I think darkness, I think Shar and Mask, not Bane.
Also, the save/die system in the game sucks.
I hate 4th edition. Tried it and it's like the new WoW expansion on paper, dumbed down so any idiot could mindlessly hit stuff with giant weapons and make 'That's what she said.' jokes every 2 seconds.
I'll stick with my 3.5 spells and classes, thank you very much. *sigh* I wish Gygax was still with us.
I'll stick with my 3.5 spells and classes, thank you very much. *sigh* I wish Gygax was still with us.
I was excited to see what a 4E game would look like, but rather disappointed with the result.
Where is the class customization that is D&D. Granted they want to keep it easy for new players, but where was the option to customize my stats? And the Feat selection was rather lame. Playing the Halfling Wizard the only 2 feats you need you can get by level 3, the rest just went into making my staff hit harder. I was a little surprised that "minions" didn't have 1hp, granted they still went down with ease... But every so often a Fireball wouldn't kill them all.
All in all I found the game to be rather easy, the final boss fight was rather annoying. Took me 4 "cycles" to figure out how to get it to end. And then after the credits my character bugged, I lost Magic Missles, and Couldn't even swing my staff to break a barrel. But at least I beat it before getting bugged?
lets see if the sequel is any better.
Where is the class customization that is D&D. Granted they want to keep it easy for new players, but where was the option to customize my stats? And the Feat selection was rather lame. Playing the Halfling Wizard the only 2 feats you need you can get by level 3, the rest just went into making my staff hit harder. I was a little surprised that "minions" didn't have 1hp, granted they still went down with ease... But every so often a Fireball wouldn't kill them all.
All in all I found the game to be rather easy, the final boss fight was rather annoying. Took me 4 "cycles" to figure out how to get it to end. And then after the credits my character bugged, I lost Magic Missles, and Couldn't even swing my staff to break a barrel. But at least I beat it before getting bugged?
lets see if the sequel is any better.
Looks kinda boring to be honest. Also the environments look dreary, if all the game is in tight little corridors i see it getting old fast. The forgotten realms have really grand panoramas of fantasy and they chose to bundle all the action in the aforementioned brownish gray corridors. I haven't played the game and i'm basing my opinion from the review, so feel free to correct me.
Looks more like yet another hack and slash rpg (leave some innovation for the rest of us etc) with no characteristics beyond Bane lol! for it to actually be called a D&D game.
Looks more like yet another hack and slash rpg (leave some innovation for the rest of us etc) with no characteristics beyond Bane lol! for it to actually be called a D&D game.
I'm with you on this one. 4th was a huge disappointment, and I am sad that I did spend money to buy the core rule boxset and two of the other books before I got to realize what it was. Would have even preferred a step back to 2nd edition. The move to 4th edition would not be so bad if WotC still supported (or at the very least supplied) 3.5 but they seemed to have abandoned it entirely.Jacksaw Jack said:
pathfinder supports 3.5 with a few tweaks. no more overly long grapple crap and some name changes to avoid copyright infringement but great experience so far. if i wanted to play a video game i would. tabletops are supposed to have more options than 4e, when i here 4e players in a game it sounds like wow gamers
A new D&D video game? Awesome!
Oh, it's 4E you say? Nevermind, I'll just go dust off some old NWN mods or something...
It's a good thing we start our Pathfinder campaign next week, I just couldn't get into 4th edition, despite more than a few months of trying.
Oh, it's 4E you say? Nevermind, I'll just go dust off some old NWN mods or something...
It's a good thing we start our Pathfinder campaign next week, I just couldn't get into 4th edition, despite more than a few months of trying.
Avg Metacritic Reviewer Score: 47 / 100
Avg Metacritic Player Score: 5.6 / 10
Do yourself a favor and don't buy Daggerdale. It's bugged to hell - your characters can be come permanently crippled by losing spells, abilities, and equipment; merchant inventories spontaneously disappear, NPCs glitch and lock up frequently, players are frequently dropped from co-op games (or the host crashes and everyone disconnects) the final boss battle is glitched and will require a dozen replays, etc.
There's no way to heal yourself outside of drinking potions (unless you're a cleric) but you can only buy 5 potions at a time and each one only returns about 15% of your health - so combat is a long, tedious battle of attrition that will see you running back to camp for a free heal and new potions.
Also, the game doesn't really save. You can select the Save Game command from the pause menu, but that will only store your character's current stats; the next time you load, you won't start where you saved - you'll have to grind your way back through a tedious series battles you've already fought (and everything respawns within about 3 minutes of you killing it). When you die, you are penalized XP and gold - no problem there - but you also *lose all your quest progress* and have to start from the beginning of the most recent quest. If you were told to find 6 keys, and you die after finding 5 of them, you'll have to restart the entire quest and re-do the whole thing over again.
Aside from all these problems, this isn't anything remotely close to D&D outside of basic terms like HP, AC, or saving throws. It's a bland, boring, bug-ridden, half-finished abortion of a game that's desperately in need of about six patches - and even then, it'll only be worth $5.00, not $15.
And yes, hi, this is my first post. Sorry to open up with a rant, but I had to sign up here just to try and help others avoid getting burned by this game like I did. I promise I'm not always a jerk, seriously.
Avg Metacritic Player Score: 5.6 / 10
Do yourself a favor and don't buy Daggerdale. It's bugged to hell - your characters can be come permanently crippled by losing spells, abilities, and equipment; merchant inventories spontaneously disappear, NPCs glitch and lock up frequently, players are frequently dropped from co-op games (or the host crashes and everyone disconnects) the final boss battle is glitched and will require a dozen replays, etc.
There's no way to heal yourself outside of drinking potions (unless you're a cleric) but you can only buy 5 potions at a time and each one only returns about 15% of your health - so combat is a long, tedious battle of attrition that will see you running back to camp for a free heal and new potions.
Also, the game doesn't really save. You can select the Save Game command from the pause menu, but that will only store your character's current stats; the next time you load, you won't start where you saved - you'll have to grind your way back through a tedious series battles you've already fought (and everything respawns within about 3 minutes of you killing it). When you die, you are penalized XP and gold - no problem there - but you also *lose all your quest progress* and have to start from the beginning of the most recent quest. If you were told to find 6 keys, and you die after finding 5 of them, you'll have to restart the entire quest and re-do the whole thing over again.
Aside from all these problems, this isn't anything remotely close to D&D outside of basic terms like HP, AC, or saving throws. It's a bland, boring, bug-ridden, half-finished abortion of a game that's desperately in need of about six patches - and even then, it'll only be worth $5.00, not $15.
And yes, hi, this is my first post. Sorry to open up with a rant, but I had to sign up here just to try and help others avoid getting burned by this game like I did. I promise I'm not always a jerk, seriously.
I think you meant it's an "aberration of a game." Since it was released, it obviously wasn't stopped in progress (although maybe it should have been). Sorry, pet peeve of mine.SuperJay said:
Still, that's an awful lot of things to have wrong with the game. No saves in an RPG? Even with a hack n' slash, that's just a really Bad Idea.
No, I actually meant to use the words I wrote, but I'm sorry if that's a pet peeve of yours. Yeah, it's an aberration too.
The game does save - sort of - in that you don't start the game from the very beginning if you die, but you do have to restart the most recent quest and re-do everything you'd previously accomplished. (Hence the "5 of 6 keys" example. You die after finding 5 of those 6, you're starting over at 0 of 6, and you have to pick up the first 5 again.)
Also, the quest system is severely limited - you get one quest at a time (all other quest givers disappear when you accept a single quest) so there's no way of completing multiple objectives at the same time. And many quests send you into the same places you just cleared in a previous quest, but everything's respawned so you have to re-do it all over again. Couple that with the lack of a decent save feature and you're forced to replay a lot of content repeatedly in a single playthrough - and you STILL only get maybe 7-8 hours out of the game.
Really, it has some potential, but in its current state it's nowhere near worth playing. This is another situation where the demo carefully masks the problems with the full game, so going by that brief experience isn't going to help. Just look at the Metacritic scores - 47 / 100 and 5.5 out of 10 aren't the hallmarks of a quality game.
The game does save - sort of - in that you don't start the game from the very beginning if you die, but you do have to restart the most recent quest and re-do everything you'd previously accomplished. (Hence the "5 of 6 keys" example. You die after finding 5 of those 6, you're starting over at 0 of 6, and you have to pick up the first 5 again.)
Also, the quest system is severely limited - you get one quest at a time (all other quest givers disappear when you accept a single quest) so there's no way of completing multiple objectives at the same time. And many quests send you into the same places you just cleared in a previous quest, but everything's respawned so you have to re-do it all over again. Couple that with the lack of a decent save feature and you're forced to replay a lot of content repeatedly in a single playthrough - and you STILL only get maybe 7-8 hours out of the game.
Really, it has some potential, but in its current state it's nowhere near worth playing. This is another situation where the demo carefully masks the problems with the full game, so going by that brief experience isn't going to help. Just look at the Metacritic scores - 47 / 100 and 5.5 out of 10 aren't the hallmarks of a quality game.
