EA CEO: We Failed Well

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What is insane is how well their games are still selling, AND the fact that they were still managing to fail as a business. Their accountants must have been taking a nap for 4 years or no one had the balls to say HEY!! maybe we shouldnt be spending 10.000.000 dollars on a frikken ad campaign for a games that play tested like shit.

Ugh as a small business owner these large companies that literally hemmorage money for years makes me sick, its sad that I can run my business better (i maintain a 40% profit margin AND pay all my employees living wages with 401K contribution AND health insurance) with a bit of common sense than people getting paid millions of dollars a year...

well at least someone is getting all that money...
 

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I love the responses at Gamasutra...

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The jokes just write themselves :)
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Loved the 'packaged goods' line!
<quote=Cody Scott>a senator came to my technical school graduation and said about the same thing....
 

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Logan Westbrook said:
EA CEO: We Failed Well

The rise of digital platforms like social networks and smart phones was changing the videogame market forever. Ricitiello said that EA's options were either to "invest and re-tool for radical change," or to continue on its then-current path, and eventually die out altogether.

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That, right there, about the social networks scares me. Idea that Social Network games are the future seems just... plain wrong. All my friends (as well as myself) agree that Facebook games compared to the experience of an RPG or FPS is pretty much crap.
But since the industry is pretty much run on trying to rake in the money (especially in this economy), it's much cheaper to make those facebook games instead of high end console games.
 

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At lesat from waht was posted from the escapist article what did they learn besides firing people and getting rid of some of their studios? EA just seemed incredibly vague...
 

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MercurySteam said:
AndyFromMonday said:
The way EA ruined the Mass Effect and Dragon Age franchises was just marvelous. I'm guessing "embracing failure" means buying good studios and turning their games into abominations of what they used to be.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, though I know for a fact that there is a shitstorm of people who have thoroughly enjoyed the latest Bioware games. I'm proud to count myself amoung them.
Good for you. That does not change the fact that the game was subpar
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
The way EA ruined the Mass Effect and Dragon Age franchises was just marvelous. I'm guessing "embracing failure" means buying good studios and turning their games into abominations of what they used to be.
The westwood take over was way worse.

Last time I was on their website the word was censored and discussing the topic resulted in a ban.

Generally speaking buying up competition and mass marketing their products is great for business, bad for the advancement of your field, but great for business.

(Because as I mentioned in a different thread in order to make something massively successful you are likely to need to make sacrifices in the very things that make it a high quality thing.)
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
MercurySteam said:
AndyFromMonday said:
The way EA ruined the Mass Effect and Dragon Age franchises was just marvelous. I'm guessing "embracing failure" means buying good studios and turning their games into abominations of what they used to be.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, though I know for a fact that there is a shitstorm of people who have thoroughly enjoyed the latest Bioware games. I'm proud to count myself amoung them.
Good for you. That does not change the fact that the game was subpar
As I said, you're entitled to your opinions but it doesn't necessarily mean people will agree.
 

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Obligatory mention of how awesome Mirrors Edge is and how much I would love a proper sequel and not just the iPad/iPhone version were getting
 

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Dense_Electric said:
fabiosooner said:
Sales say otherwise.
Sales do not equal quality.
No, but a games "quality" is subjective. It's not quantifiable.

Profit and sales numbers are quantifiable, and it happens to be how businesses decide whether they are succeeding or not.

They're not making games to make us happy. Their making games to keep us just happy enough to continue purchasing them.
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
The way EA ruined the Mass Effect and Dragon Age franchises was just marvelous. I'm guessing "embracing failure" means buying good studios and turning their games into abominations of what they used to be.
Exactly.

Also, I am sure they failed well and are happy that they have lost me as a potential customer for the next, oh, say 4 years. Fuck you EA.
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
The way EA ruined the Mass Effect and Dragon Age franchises was just marvelous. I'm guessing "embracing failure" means buying good studios and turning their games into abominations of what they used to be.
ME2 was just different. I like what they did to the inventory. I couldn't care less about the way you level up. The story ground to an absolute halt, feeling like a bunch of disconnected viginettes more suited to an expansion than a second act, compared to the revelatory nature of the first. But I guess that was inevitable. But what was unforgivable was taking out the planetside exploration. I loved that. Yes, each sandbox was bare bones, but look at how many sandboxes there are! Nothing in ME2 compared to scouting out a merc base for the right ridge to snipe from, or taking out a thresher maw with a pistol.
 

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MercurySteam said:
AndyFromMonday said:
MercurySteam said:
AndyFromMonday said:
The way EA ruined the Mass Effect and Dragon Age franchises was just marvelous. I'm guessing "embracing failure" means buying good studios and turning their games into abominations of what they used to be.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, though I know for a fact that there is a shitstorm of people who have thoroughly enjoyed the latest Bioware games. I'm proud to count myself amoung them.
Good for you. That does not change the fact that the game was subpar
As I said, you're entitled to your opinions but it doesn't necessarily mean people will agree.
I'm sorry but this is not an opinion. Mass Effect 2 is a bad sequel and in turn a bad game. If you enjoy it then sure, go ahead. I also enjoy certain terrible games. However, don't call it what it's not. The same applies for Dragon Age 2.
 

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blindthrall said:
AndyFromMonday said:
The way EA ruined the Mass Effect and Dragon Age franchises was just marvelous. I'm guessing "embracing failure" means buying good studios and turning their games into abominations of what they used to be.
ME2 was just different. I like what they did to the inventory. I couldn't care less about the way you level up. The story ground to an absolute halt, feeling like a bunch of disconnected viginettes more suited to an expansion than a second act, compared to the revelatory nature of the first. But I guess that was inevitable. But what was unforgivable was taking out the planetside exploration. I loved that. Yes, each sandbox was bare bones, but look at how many sandboxes there are! Nothing in ME2 compared to scouting out a merc base for the right ridge to snipe from, or taking out a thresher maw with a pistol.
It wasn't different, it was shit. It did improve on existing mechanics, except for one but fuck that one, it added new mechanics that made the game just plain annoying and in the end, like you said, the story made no sense. Mass Effect 2 is and will always be a bad game and publishers will forever be the bane of good studios and innovative games..
 

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I'm going to be optimistic and say that this is at least a step in the right direction. I personally feel that EA didn't "ruin" Mass Effect 2, and I'm willing to look forward rather than look back.
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
blindthrall said:
AndyFromMonday said:
The way EA ruined the Mass Effect and Dragon Age franchises was just marvelous. I'm guessing "embracing failure" means buying good studios and turning their games into abominations of what they used to be.
ME2 was just different. I like what they did to the inventory. I couldn't care less about the way you level up. The story ground to an absolute halt, feeling like a bunch of disconnected viginettes more suited to an expansion than a second act, compared to the revelatory nature of the first. But I guess that was inevitable. But what was unforgivable was taking out the planetside exploration. I loved that. Yes, each sandbox was bare bones, but look at how many sandboxes there are! Nothing in ME2 compared to scouting out a merc base for the right ridge to snipe from, or taking out a thresher maw with a pistol.
It wasn't different, it was shit. It did improve on existing mechanics, except for one but fuck that one, it added new mechanics that made the game just plain annoying and in the end, like you said, the story made no sense. Mass Effect 2 is and will always be a bad game and publishers will forever be the bane of good studios and innovative games..
It may not have been as good as the first, mostly just because of how linear the story and combat became, but it was still a few feet of intestine removed from shit.
 

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RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
technically i could think my shit was a glorious product but still dosen't mean its not shit. Opinions only go so far when describing something.
A game that is sub par can still be sub par and opinions won't change it. ME2 was not as good as it could/should have been and no matter how someone FEELS about something it dosen't change it.
As to being thankful we did not lose something entirely we shouldn't. We should be angry they tried to make a series something it wasn't.
AndyFromMonday said:
I'm sorry but this is not an opinion. Mass Effect 2 is a bad sequel and in turn a bad game. If you enjoy it then sure, go ahead. I also enjoy certain terrible games. However, don't call it what it's not. The same applies for Dragon Age 2.
Hating to repeat myself, there are hordes [http://au.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/dragon-age-2/review.html?mode=web&tag=scoresummary%3Bcritic-score] of people who would disagree [http://au.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/mass-effect-2/review.html?mode=web&tag=scoresummary%3Bcritic-score] but because peoples' own opinions are the most important things on the planet I don't see the point in debating.