EA: Dungeon Keeper Failed by "Innovating Too Much"

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Trishbot

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Wow. Just... wow.

I don't even know how they can claim that with a straight face. That's either the biggest lie they've ever said, or they literally live in a fantasy world where logic and common sense are the enemy.

Take it away, laughing Gif.
 

Dragonlayer

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EA, I love the games you publish (Dead Space, Mass Effect, Battlefield), but you really must stop saying stupid shit like this.
 

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gigastar said:
I never knew having to sit through a 24 hour lockout in order to do anything was considered innovative. Plainly we have been looking at this the wrong way the whole time.

And the subject of next weeks Jimqusition is...
He sort of already covered it this week, or at least the trend which this is a part of: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/9516-EA-Ubisoft-A-Cycle-of-Perpetration-and-Apology?utm_source=latest&utm_medium=index_carousel&utm_campaign=all
 

Neurotic Void Melody

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Owwwwwwwwwwwwwww! My sides are seriously splitting! This has got to be a joke, right? ...Right??
I believe a moment of silence is required for Mythic.


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...followed by the -never more deserved- Fuck you, EA!!
 

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"I think we might have innovated too much or tried some different things that people just weren't ready for"

In other words, EA plans to keep doing this stuff until we suck it up as inevitable reality.

Screw. You. EA.
 

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AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
*breathes*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Oh god, EA, you're too good. *wipes away tear*

Phew.. That brightened up my day.
 

MonkeyPunch

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OMG what a load of bullshit! Literally all he said was a load of steaming poo.
EA really does believe it's customers are completely stupid...

Also it's not Dungeon Keeper which killed Mythic, it's the payment model which did. It's either EA's or Mythic's heads who killed them (who ever made the selfish, greedy and most of all moronic choice to make the game adhere to that insulting payment model). Not the game.
 

Boris Goodenough

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I am sorry, but nothing EA does phases me anymore, they have earned their title as worst company in the US on several occasions for a reason (although they aren't actually the WORST company, or even close but they are they ones that get cought saying the most retarded stuff).
Racecarlock said:
I think this is a good reminder to all of us that winners don't do drugs.
Except Michael Phelps...
 

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You know what the sad thing is? The saddest head shaking thing of F2P is? DK is one of the better ones by a long shot. For one it actually is possible to get the premium currency in game, the free currency actually is used for something, and things you buy actually do something compared to other games where you spend in game money to buy something that does nothing but get you more money, and that is the entire game. Also DK has way fewer premium currency only purchases than most games. By all means shit on it, but some perspective can go a long way.
 

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What we are seeing here is a massive difference in philosophy between the new CEO and the head of mobile - the latter representing exactly the mindset the former seemingly sees as the key weakness of his company.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the two will soon have to look for work elsewhere.
 

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Hmm yeah.. That's about as rich as Microsoft giving people a paper cutout of a xbox branded cake for their birthday present this year (true story, just opened the email with it an hour ago and still can't stop laughing)
 

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Nowhere Man said:
This was good for a real genuine laugh :)

We already know that EA is dishonest and insincere as hell to their customers. But how it it possible that they could be so dishonest and insincere to themselves?
Keep in mind, the customers are shareholders. He's not making these statements for us, but for investors.
 

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luvd1 said:
Wow... I mean wow. That's... Wow. Really? Oh I see. Your mistaking innovation with bullshit. I can see where you got confused.
No, no, you're just not with the programme. Dungeon Keeper mobile contained buckets of innovation, centred around the primary, bold concept - remove the 'game' part and insert a cash vortex in its place. Truly, we where not ready for the boundless innovation it brought to us.
 

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Here's a thought: EA executives have all become psychotic. Consequently, they have to make up these lies to tell more to themselves than to customers in order to keep whatever gossamer thread of sanity remains to their minds. They made shit, and they know it's shit. However, they have to keep trying to convince themselves otherwise.

Still won't make me buy an EA game (or Ubisoft's).
 

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Signa said:
So do I. I've been watching this stuff too closely for the last decade and, unfortunately, I don't think I am.
Quite possible. It's pretty standard for consumers to be okay with losing stuff as long as it's done slowly.

Or in the name of stopping piracy. Maybe that's what EA should have said.

Flammablezeus said:
I'm not defending EA on any level, but gamers do seem to embrace it with open arms for the most part. How else can we explain the popularity of multiplayer on any console that charges extra for it? How else is WoW the most popular MMO, even though you have to buy the game, every expansion, pay for a subscription and yet they still have "micro"-transactions (although I don't think you can consider USD$25 mount skins to be micro in any way.)

The only difference with Dungeon Keeper is that they were called out on it so vocally. If that didn't happen with this game specifically, I have a feeling it would be as successful as the countless other "free"-to-play apps.
Well, a couple of examples are basically "where else you gonna go?" Microsoft set a standard with the Xbox and charging for it and got away with it largely because Halo and such that their sequel console was bound to have it. And once that standard was set...Well, I'm surprise dNintendo doesn't do it. Scratch that, Nintendo hates online anyway. At the same time, they used to charge for GFWL and that went nowhere, so it's certainly not that all gamers will do it.

WOW, similarly, is THE game to play. I've seen people try and shift folks over to other MMOs unsuccessfully, and we've seen rebellion against it costing so much, but in the end, people will go back because it's the game.

What puzzles me is microtransactions in other instances. Horse Armour probably should have been a sign.

I'm not completely against Microtransactions, either. The line is fuzzy and hard to define in the first place, and maybe that's the problem. Dungeon KEeper seems to be an example so egregious that we won't stand it...for now, at least.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to count how much money I spent on DLC for Rock Band over the years.
 

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JoJo said:
Heh, really? I've said it before and I'll say it again, the games industry really needs to work on their PR tactics, I swear every week we hear a few of the usual suspects running off their mouth when it would have been more advantageous just to keep quiet and hope people start to forget. You don't see many other industries running into this problem, I guess the video game industry still need time to mature. Anyhow, I couldn't find a decent laughing gif so I'll let Jim doing the talking for me:

NO sir, no. They do not need to work on their PR tactics. I find them to be perfect just the way they are.
 

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I'm not usually a violent person. But after reading the OP, I just want to punch EA in the boob.