EA: "If The Sims 4 Isn't Successful, There Won't be a Sims 5"

Shamanic Rhythm

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"Buy it plebs, or else we won't make another one to fix all the stuff you want!"

EA demonstrating once again why they are so respected by fans.
 

Vault101

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do we NEED the sims 5?

cause sims 2 seems to be all you need at this point
 

Aiddon_v1legacy

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y'know EA, I wouldn't mind the whole businessmen mentality if you guys were COMPETENT at it. That's the thing: if I'm gonna have executives around the least I want from them is to be good at their jobs. A lot of people like to harp on "it's those heartless businessmen that are ruining gaming!" but in all honesty a lot of the errors and blunders I see are mostly from the guys who run the companies clearly being incompetent at their jobs or at the very least a lot of problems I see seem to come more from developers than publishers such as reducing the amount of brands they have when all that does is reduce the amount of people you can potentially sell to. Heck, this claim of killing the Sims is something I'd expect out of a dev, not a pub; killing off one of their biggest cash cows? What are they HIGH???? That's not what you do; heck when a couple of Simcity games went south they didn't kill the series. Game companies really need to start acting like adults and running things more efficiently.
 

V da Mighty Taco

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Sigh, of course they say this. Can't say I was surprised.

EA doesn't really seem to get gamers, do they? Too often has a game in a franchise gotten panned for failing to live up to previous installments, only to have EA jump straight to the assumption that gamers have lost interest in the franchise as a whole and proceed to shut the entire series down. It's as if they can't disassociate criticism of a lone an installment from criticism of a franchise, or are under the believe that a gamer can't like one game in a series but not another.

EA. EA never changes.
 

Ticklefist

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I was under the impression that it was already successful. Every site selling it has it close to the top.
 

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Here's a thought: There's obviously a pretty big market for life sims considering The Sims success as a franchise. That isn't likely to go away just because EA decides to takes its toys and go home. So let's say that no more Sims games get made. Sounds like a good opportunity for another developer to me.

I always wondered why The Sims had no real competition anyway...
 

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Scars Unseen said:
Here's a thought: There's obviously a pretty big market for life sims considering The Sims success as a franchise. That isn't likely to go away just because EA decides to takes its toys and go home. So let's say that no more Sims games get made. Sounds like a good opportunity for another developer to me.

I always wondered why The Sims had no real competition anyway...
Eh, there's Second Life. Minecraft with mods also can probably come pretty close.


I suspect EA is going to pop up with some free DLC or something to "fix" the missing features down the road, and try and bask in the applause thereof though.
 

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Knowing the ludicrous sales figures EA has had for many of their other games, I think it is safe to assume that The Sims franchise will be taking a trip to The Country very soon.
 

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Is this EA's way of saying they are actually going to be listening to their playerbase?
If the game that is designed to milk customers with a million small content DLCs doesn't sell well, they'll stop the series because they can't figure out how do it differently. Thanks for looking out for the customers EA! Great job.
 

Saltyk

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I wonder what their definition of success is. 2 million copies sold? 5 million copies sold? 20 million copies sold? More?

Kinda shitty to hold the series hostage like that, but at the same time, if the game doesn't do well, there really isn't a reason to keep making it. And The Sims is probably a game which we can afford to lose at this point. Especially seeing as EA loves to milk it with expansions.

Gearhead mk2 said:
If any Sims fans want to join me in the corner to weep for dead franchises, I've got a bottle of Serrice Ice Brandy. I was just pouring one out for Dead Space, I'll see if I can get you a glass.

OT: I really hate it when one bad entry in a franchise cans the whole thing. Hell, it doesn't even have to be bad, it just has to not sell well. Happened to Dead Space, happened to Banjo Kazooie, it came this close to happening to Metroid and Korra, it might have happened to Beyond Good and Evil and Megaman. Granted there are times when a franchise has carried on past the point it should have stopped, coughHaloGlasslandsResidentEvil6ManOfSteelcough, but seeing all that potential ignored and effort wasted because of one failure is just deppresing to me. I never played the Sims, but I can sympathise with seeing a beloved series die because of poor management.
Man, you just reminded me how shitty Capcom has been. The Breath of Fire series has basically been dead for years after the spiritual sequel, Dragon Quarter. A game, which wasn't bad, but wasn't a Breath of Fire game, either. But there is hope! Breath of Fire VI! A online multiplayer tablet based game.

Oh God, what have they done to you Ryu? You were the Warrior of the Dragon Clan of Light. The Destined child. The Dragon Prince and last of the Brood. Even a God.

Man, if Dragon Quarter didn't kill the franchise this one probably will.
 

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Phil the Nervous said:
EA guilting the fans to get them to buy a watered-down version of their beloved franchise?
What a surprise.
I read it differently. To me it wasn't the same as Frank Gibeau the executive saying "5 mil or gtfo." This is the developer saying "We have to make this good so that you'll buy it. Otherwise they won't ask us to make another one."

Evil Moo said:
Is this EA's way of saying they are actually going to be listening to their playerbase?
That's the way I took it.

If the game that is designed to milk customers with a million small content DLCs doesn't sell well, they'll stop the series because they can't figure out how do it differently. Thanks for looking out for the customers EA! Great job.
Wait you lost me.
 

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Saltyk said:
I wonder what their definition of success is. 2 million copies sold? 5 million copies sold? 20 million copies sold? More?

Kinda shitty to hold the series hostage like that, but at the same time, if the game doesn't do well, there really isn't a reason to keep making it. And The Sims is probably a game which we can afford to lose at this point. Especially seeing as EA loves to milk it with expansions.

Gearhead mk2 said:
If any Sims fans want to join me in the corner to weep for dead franchises, I've got a bottle of Serrice Ice Brandy. I was just pouring one out for Dead Space, I'll see if I can get you a glass.

OT: I really hate it when one bad entry in a franchise cans the whole thing. Hell, it doesn't even have to be bad, it just has to not sell well. Happened to Dead Space, happened to Banjo Kazooie, it came this close to happening to Metroid and Korra, it might have happened to Beyond Good and Evil and Megaman. Granted there are times when a franchise has carried on past the point it should have stopped, coughHaloGlasslandsResidentEvil6ManOfSteelcough, but seeing all that potential ignored and effort wasted because of one failure is just deppresing to me. I never played the Sims, but I can sympathise with seeing a beloved series die because of poor management.
Man, you just reminded me how shitty Capcom has been. The Breath of Fire series has basically been dead for years after the spiritual sequel, Dragon Quarter. A game, which wasn't bad, but wasn't a Breath of Fire game, either. But there is hope! Breath of Fire VI! A online multiplayer tablet based game.

Oh God, what have they done to you Ryu? You were the Warrior of the Dragon Clan of Light. The Destined child. The Dragon Prince and last of the Brood. Even a God.

Man, if Dragon Quarter didn't kill the franchise this one probably will.
And let us not forget what might have been a system seller for the 3DS early on: Megaman Legends 3. Capcom straight up trolled us with that one. First they held it hostage, and then decided they just flat out didn't care.
 

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And the worst company in America, goes to EA again, for openly threatening to kill it's franchise if it's demands aren't met. Because I'm sure that the 200 dollar plus DLC packs you shovel out isn't going to make you money too. Because there are those sad enough, to collect all of them, at full price. I stopped before I got into Sims 2, got like 4 expansion packs from the original, then figured to myself " this is stupid" and never looked back.
 

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Alright then. Don't make a Sims 5. I didn't even want a Sims 4 to begin with.
You know, companies that make their players happy don't need to resort to petty threats like this.
 

Saltyk

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Scars Unseen said:
Saltyk said:
I wonder what their definition of success is. 2 million copies sold? 5 million copies sold? 20 million copies sold? More?

Kinda shitty to hold the series hostage like that, but at the same time, if the game doesn't do well, there really isn't a reason to keep making it. And The Sims is probably a game which we can afford to lose at this point. Especially seeing as EA loves to milk it with expansions.

Gearhead mk2 said:
If any Sims fans want to join me in the corner to weep for dead franchises, I've got a bottle of Serrice Ice Brandy. I was just pouring one out for Dead Space, I'll see if I can get you a glass.

OT: I really hate it when one bad entry in a franchise cans the whole thing. Hell, it doesn't even have to be bad, it just has to not sell well. Happened to Dead Space, happened to Banjo Kazooie, it came this close to happening to Metroid and Korra, it might have happened to Beyond Good and Evil and Megaman. Granted there are times when a franchise has carried on past the point it should have stopped, coughHaloGlasslandsResidentEvil6ManOfSteelcough, but seeing all that potential ignored and effort wasted because of one failure is just deppresing to me. I never played the Sims, but I can sympathise with seeing a beloved series die because of poor management.
Man, you just reminded me how shitty Capcom has been. The Breath of Fire series has basically been dead for years after the spiritual sequel, Dragon Quarter. A game, which wasn't bad, but wasn't a Breath of Fire game, either. But there is hope! Breath of Fire VI! A online multiplayer tablet based game.

Oh God, what have they done to you Ryu? You were the Warrior of the Dragon Clan of Light. The Destined child. The Dragon Prince and last of the Brood. Even a God.

Man, if Dragon Quarter didn't kill the franchise this one probably will.
And let us not forget what might have been a system seller for the 3DS early on: Megaman Legends 3. Capcom straight up trolled us with that one. First they held it hostage, and then decided they just flat out didn't care.
Oh, I know. Man, I would have loved a new Megaman Legends game. Would have preferred it on the PS3, though.

As I recall, they said they canceled it because the demo wasn't downloaded enough on the 3DS. How many people even had 3DSs at that time? As you said, it could have been the reason to get a 3DS. To add insult to injury, they've constantly been teasing us with references to the Megaman Legends universe.

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proving that EA isn't the only shitty company in gaming
 

ZZoMBiE13

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If they removed anymore key features, it would just be a character creator. SiMS 5! Build a dude! Build a lady! Build... keep an eye out for the next expansion that adds houses!