EA: "There Is No Feud With Valve"

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Kataskopo

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Well, to be fair, in my country the games on Origin are actually cheaper than in Steam.
That is, the 3 - 4 games that are not Sims DLC that doesn't suck.

I've been tempted to buy Dead Space (it's 6 dollars in 'merican) and Battlefield 3 is 38 Freedom and Liberty Cash.
 

I.Muir

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A feud would imply any real competition
Everybody hates origin, EA and their forceful marketing
 

Therumancer

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Well, it's a situation where the perception of a conflict is bad, but I think it does exist. You can't do the things EA has done without there being a conflict.

At the end it's about money, basically EA wants to make monster profits off of each individual game they sell, STEAM seems to be increasingly about volume sales. Things STEAM does like put all of thier games up for deep discounts doesn't fit with EA's vision of increasingly raising prices and asking for more and more money which goes directly into profits. From the way things look from the outside, I'm not entirely sure that those who are on STEAM's platform really get a choice about what games go on sale and for how much. While I could be wrong about that, I've picked up a few things here and there about companies being unhappy with games being discounted like 50% a few months after release. This isn't to say that STEAM isn't pretty greedy on it's own, it's simply a differant strategy, on how to make money, a few big ticket items or volume sales for a much smaller profit, it's ironic here because we're seeing this conflict on the same basic profit. EA is kind of right (irregardless of what kind of say they might get) that STEAM does devalue IPs, by showing what they are actually worth, and presenting them as a volume item rather than a high priced luxury item.

There is also the issue of control, and simply put everyone in the industry right now wants to be "that guy" that controls the platform and has the power. STEAM being so entrenched means hat it remains pretty much in control of digital distribution, and companies are more or less forced to compete with their business model.

EA does have a valid point though about patches and updates and such, from various things I have read, it would be nice if STEAM did make it a bit easier for companies to work on their games, at least for patches. There has been a few annoying moments where a company has had a patch up, but I had to wait to get it for the steam version.
 

Tuesday Night Fever

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anthony87 said:
Is it really fair to label them as "competitors"? Origin can't even touch Steam.
I suppose they're competitors in the same sense that a little girl selling lemonade on the street corner is a competitor to Country Time or Minute Maid...
 

DaGobbo

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I remember purchasing Mass Effect 3 earlier this year and being forced to use the EA origin service. When doing so I'm presented with an EULA indicating that for me to be "allowed" to play the game I purchased then I must bend over and I Quote "Consent to Collection and Use of Data" of my PC. If I said no I was not allowed to play the game I had purchased.

I'm aware these EULAs exist on other games, but most of these EULAs exist in games which have a strong online component (eg. MMOs). Mass Effect 3 I purchased to finish the story of 1 and 2, not to play the multiplayer, which I felt was tacked on anyway.

Now while Steam does scan you computer in a similar fashion it is about choice, if you choose no then you can continue playing the games you have purchased. Its not compulsory.

This is not the first time EA has acted in this fashion, remember the DRM for spore and only being allowed to install the game 3 times.

EA continually demonstrates how they view us gamers, believing that we will rant and moan but after crying foul will continue to come back to purchase from them. This gamer will not. I don't care who in the future signs up with EA I will not use EAs origin service nor continue to patron that company. EA have clearly demonstrated how they treat such patronage.
 

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Therumancer said:
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EA does have a valid point though about patches and updates and such, from various things I have read, it would be nice if STEAM did make it a bit easier for companies to work on their games, at least for patches. There has been a few annoying moments where a company has had a patch up, but I had to wait to get it for the steam version.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/07/12/how-steam-is-about-to-change-its-role/?ref=rss
 

JWAN

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tmande2nd said:
felbot said:
say did they ever say what part of the terms of service they disagreed with? i really cannot remember them ever saying what it was.
Apparently because Valve was getting to large a share of DLC revenue over steam.

Like apparently EA WAS NOT GETTING 100% of the money! IT WAS SO CRUEL!
^ Exactly^
And the amount Valve asked for made sense. EA was using THEIR service so they had to pay to use it. EA made their own and it sucks a big, fat, donkey cock (as I predicted) because EA does not but in the same time and effort for their service.
 

Stabby Joe

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"There is no feud with Valve" - That is true because a feud would imply a degree of real competition.
 

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mrhateful said:
The thing that makes EA so fun is they are being comic villains because its like they don't understand economics. They would earn way more if they just focused on being nice and helpful toward the consumer but by doing there anti consumer stance they make them self out to be jackasses, and as such receive less purchases.
Which is weird because they seemed like they were making an effort to clean up their act awhile back.The free map pacls for Bad Company 2. The free stone prisoner dlc for Dragon Age Origins. The free Cerberus Network stuff for Mass Effect 2. Picking up TIm Schafer's Brutal Legend game after Activision baled on him and tried to sue to stop it's release. Its seems like they just gave up.
 

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People thought there was a feud? They're running competing services so that on its own is reason for EA to want to keep its own products exclusive, I really doubt there's more to it than that.
 

Ed130 The Vanguard

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"There is no feud With Valve"

"We have always feuded with Valve"

That's what I get out of this statement. (bonus points if you figure what I mean it out)

Recaptcha: power dressing
 

felbot

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overtone said:
felbot said:
It's Valve. Gabe's a great friend of EA's. We're a great friend of his, we like to think."
Thats sounds like a plea for help.

'Oh no, our services and evil business practices suck and everyone hates us. Quick! Make it look like we're friends with Valve!'
uh dude i think you qouted the wrong person, i cant remember saying that.
 

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kajinking said:
Ok all I could think of when I saw the headline was "These are not the droids you are looking for" anyone else? Although is it a Jedi mind trick if done by a Sith?
both have force powers, you know.
 

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EA has several things going on currently. They want to move into mobile, free to play, modify Steam's terms, limit EA games to Origin, always on DRM, must connect to internet and on and on and on.

Also, the company is up for sale @ $20 a share. Right hand, left hand have either of you met brain yet? Cause ruling the world is not happening.

Don't forget they could market Minecraft better then Notch. Just cause they are the guys that brought the Dead Space 2 ads about Moms hating games.

Class act from a class company. Too bad it is all low class.
 

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"They have different terms and conditions that they put on their games that don't meet what we would like to do with our gamers."

Uhh...that sounds kind of creepy.

Enemy or not though a rival company making a rival service and claiming that the other cheapens intellectual property hardly seems like friendly interaction.