1.The group of students themselfs showed Valve their project , Valve havent bought them out.Sober Thal said:
2.You know what is the difference between Valve's way of hiring people and EA's?
EA: "There Is No Feud With Valve"
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2.You know what is the difference between Valve's way of hiring people and EA's?
I have no grudge against EA.
They want all the DLC revenues, Steam wants its share, so naturally, EA closes the deal and does its own thing.
Fair enough to me, nothing to rage or to be snarky about.
They want all the DLC revenues, Steam wants its share, so naturally, EA closes the deal and does its own thing.
Fair enough to me, nothing to rage or to be snarky about.
I wish.Coffinshaker said:
As much as I want to play the game, lucky for me to avoid ALL spoilers of the story for this long, I REFUSE to get Origin for it.
I agree with you. EA is far from being the pit of evilness that people make it out to be -- and it is even farther from being America's worst company.Sober Thal said:
Both Valve and EA are businesses. One is more successful than the other right now. There really isn't much more to it.
But hey, EA is evulz and deserves to die! And all those employed at EA, who have families to feed, should be jobless! Yes, that would make the gaming industry better!
Am I the only one that think that EA did not put their IP in Steam in order to boost Origin? You can not play HL 2, L4D 1 and 2, TF 2, Portal 1 and 2 and Dota 2 without Steam. In fact Steam is mandatory to Valve games and people do not complain. EA should increase it's Origin quality, read sale and disccount. Valve is not the good force distributing candy. EA is not Hitler's evil version corporate wet dream. They both want profit.
So true, I once bought a DLC for a EA/Bioware title and never bought any more.Irridium said:
Funnily enough, I was very quick to snap up the DLC for Fallout:New Vegas and, more recently, Skyrim.
Also never had any issues with Steam autopatching games, it's a useful feature imo.
They don't insist. They offer it to developers FOR FREE -Draech said:
http://www.steampowered.com/steamworks/
It's DRM that has goodwill from the people who use it. They have a large presold audience that already like and use steam, and it's a great sell for devs who want and need DRM but don' t want to get on gamers' bad sides.
Not necessarily taking "their side", but understand that Steamworks is a separate product that Valve sells to developers, while Steam is a platform they sell to the users. Compare it to UPlay, Games for Windows Live, Origin (or what used to be EA Download Manager), Gamespy, etc. Steam is just a service that users prefer, amongst everything due to more service added.
Personally, I happen to like UPlay and even Origin to an extent. UPlay offers rewards for achievements (which probably skews their statistics by "gaming the system" in the form of extra stuff, Origin has better customer service, but a lousy update system. They both need better friends systems, and I need more friends on those platforms.
Well played, my good sir. Well played.Amgeo said:
Yeah...all there is to see here is that EA is on "Damage Control Mode". Kind of a pity that they fancy themselves competition with Steam when they tend to struggle with getting ahead of Activision.
If y'all will excuse me, I'm gonna go see what all I can get on Steam for these five measly dollars.
There are plenty of things I don't begrudge EA, with regards to their digital distribution ambitions, BUT...
...I still want to know exactly (and without PR filters) WHAT it is they want to do directly with their customers, that they can not do through Steamworks and the Steam terms of service.
...I still want to know exactly (and without PR filters) WHAT it is they want to do directly with their customers, that they can not do through Steamworks and the Steam terms of service.
Why do people keep using this as some sort of debate?
When EA was publishing these two software titles their digital distribution system EADM was the choice people used if they had no other route to go to to get their software, since their were many alternatives to EADM, including cutting off your own arm and beating yourself with it, EADM didn't exactly have the chops to take on STEAM.
Then EA hit the pay dirt, BF3, it was going to be a massive title, seriously massive. A fan base of dedicated PC users who would buy the game no matter what and who had been waiting over 5 years to get the next game in the series.
Now how can we exploit such a captivated market, oh yeah repackage EADM as Origin and force every user who buys the game, DD or Retail to have to install the software to play BF3, then remove ALL your games from the opposition and you further force people, any people who want to play your games, to go a head and have to use your re packaged EADM which people had been actively avoiding and more than likely using STEAM as an alternative.
You can tell that a lot of this came about at a last minute by the fact that Origin, the software you were FORCED to use if you wanted to play BF3 has only just come out of BETA. Yeah they force you to use BETA software to play your legally purchased games.
EA got the tri factor at just the right time to force the PC user in to having to use Origin
BF3 followed by ME3 and they knew they had to pull Steam support for other games because they knew people would just use Steam for anything other than the games that had forced Origin on you to play them.
As for the feud, just seems that Valve and EA are trying to climb over each other to see how can reach the highest ground in the argument.
Valve could probably cut a deal to get EA games back on it DD service, something that would work both ways for Valve and EA
EA should man up, if Origin is as good as they think it is then it should be going toe to toe with Steam, and reading EA reps saying they won;t use Steam because it is an additional layer between gamer and publisher is comical in the highest sense, EA have used any number of DRM systems which act as barriers between gamer and the publishers content for years and unlike Steam most of them have been massive piles of wank that have ruined or made game unplayable.
Yeh EA why do you have to be the special case, everyone else is more than happy to put the games on steam but just because you want to throw your weight around to make people change does not mean its going to work.
Valve are too big for you to bully. We all know the main reason tho don't we EA you don't want any competition to your retarded on-line prices. I am sure if you did start 3rd party game on origin people would not do the same to you.
You aint helping yourself by doing this tho, the more people that have access to your games the more people will buy them shocker I know but that's how it works.
Publishers ***** that nobody buys pc games any more and at the same time does not have them in retail stores for the general consumer to buy ( have walked into a store and there has been more space dedicated to a not yet out xbox football game that's the same every year then the WHOLE PC SECTION alone and one 1/3 of that was for wow), or in this case will not put them on the biggest digital distributional platform for game in the world. Thats like a hooker moaning that she did not get any passing trade when at home in bed sleeping.
God dam Retards
Valve are too big for you to bully. We all know the main reason tho don't we EA you don't want any competition to your retarded on-line prices. I am sure if you did start 3rd party game on origin people would not do the same to you.
You aint helping yourself by doing this tho, the more people that have access to your games the more people will buy them shocker I know but that's how it works.
Publishers ***** that nobody buys pc games any more and at the same time does not have them in retail stores for the general consumer to buy ( have walked into a store and there has been more space dedicated to a not yet out xbox football game that's the same every year then the WHOLE PC SECTION alone and one 1/3 of that was for wow), or in this case will not put them on the biggest digital distributional platform for game in the world. Thats like a hooker moaning that she did not get any passing trade when at home in bed sleeping.
God dam Retards
I fixed your statement for you. Hate to break it to you, but EA is profit driven machine. Same with Valve. Maybe at the core, the developers want to "make great games" but in the end, all that counts for EA (Or any profit driven business, for that matter) is the bottom line.Sober Thal said:
A tip: Calling out the "masses of forum posters" as having a "Hipster mentality" does not win you over with said posters, including this one. If it walks like a troll and sounds like a troll. . .Sober Thal said:
EA wants to make money. EA doesn't want Valve to make money. It's called competition. Competition, in and of itself, is basically a feud between two "people". That's pretty much as black and white an issue as you can get.Sober Thal said:
Nice backpeddle EA, real nice. You know you can't compete with Steam so just sit down and shut up.
I think the title is incomplete. You forgot the "...because Valve has already long since won" part.
What I don't understand is just why origin is so bad, I refuse to believe that only incompetent people work at EA. I mean there most be some employee somewhere looking at steam and saying to his superiors "hey guys how about we do something like that?" But no they just refuse to listen to sense.