Editorial: Nintendo's E3 Showing is Refreshingly Fun
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Speaking of Other M, Team Ninja IS part of the team working on Hyrule Warriors, but I think they are more relegated to designs and models then actual character stuff, so we can hope the ladies of the game won't suffer the same fate as Other M Samus. XDDark Knifer said:
Sequel, Sequel, Yoshi's Island with Kirby Epic Yarn's visual aesthetic and Super Mario 3 meets Fez. Yeah I can really see how Nintendo are unpredictable with their fresh, innovative ideas.Dexterity said:
Put this together with the Gen 3 Pokemon games
This is coming from someone who likes Nintendo games, but everything post Super Mario Galaxy slowly makes it more apparent that they're relying too much on the nostalgia buck and it's come and bit them in the arse.
I'd call Devil's Third a horrible misstep. Not cause it breaks the Nintendo mold or anything, but it looks like they just picked it up on the cheap at THQ's clearance sale to be edgy or something. For Nintendo doing its own thing, it looks like just a horrible mesh of random action games and "'tude" that would be obnoxious even in the 90s when that was the rage.
"Hay gaiz, I'm ignoring everything written in the thread and everything Nintendo showed! Nintendo does always the same thing and nothing new! Sony is da rulez!"Strazdas said:
Maybe you should read a bit before posting? You totally ignored 5 new IP's, one of which is by many considered one of the most creative games in recent gaming history.
Also It's not a Zelda remake. It's a new entry in the series.
Smash comes out once a console generation and there are only 3 games in total since 1999. 15 years.
Lets look at Sony... oh look, 3 Uncharted games in a single console generation. B-but it's Nintendo who does always the same thing.
Maybe the article should have actually mentioned them then? Games actually mentioned in the article - Smash Bros, Zelda, Zelda, Mario, Mario, Bayonetta. Two sequels, and four extensions to two of the oldest franchises around. One of said sequels being dedicated to copying characters out of all their other games. Maybe there really were all kinds of fun and refreshing things announced, but if that's so this article failed miserably at actually telling us anything about them.Dexterity said:
They're selling computer games. What exactly do you expect them to show if not computer generated trailers?Arslan Aladeen said:
Only took one post for someone to bring up the old "Nintendo releases the same games all the time" nonsense.Congratulations that's got to be a new record.It usually takes 3 or 4 postssoftclocks said:
Oh I don't know how about actual gameplay footage as opposed to CG cinematics.That's what people are interested in after allKahani said:
Maybe people shouldn't jump on the hate bandwagon on Nintendo since it's a very well known fact that the Escapist is biased against Nintendo and most articles should be taken with a fist full of salt? Or informing yourself is also an option. Turning on the live stream on twitch that is on the whole day and chances are you will see one of the new IP's.Kahani said:
I might be old fashioned and out of touch with what's in today, but back in my days we wanted to see gameplay from the games rather than a scripted cinematic trailer which doesn't show even a second of the gameplay from the game.Kahani said:
But what do I know. I'm too old for this.
Actually they do have some third party support, i looked into it yesterday and found about 120 indietitles that are scheduled for release on WiiU this year. Some of them will probably be delayed and stuff, but there's still a lot of really neat stuff coming, some of it exclusive and some of it multiplatform. They just chose to focus on their own releases instead, which might also be why they waited with the Devil's Third announcment til after the show.TerribleAssassin said:
Personally i think it all looks very promising, combined with the games we got last year, like Wonderful 101, Pikmin 3 and Mario 3D among others, i think it looks like a very interesting console. Especially as a supplement to to either ps4 or XboxOne. It defineately offers something different than it competetitors and i see more reason to own a ps4 + Wiiu than i do to own a ps4 + XboxOne (As they basically offer the same thing). But then again, i'm a gameplay guy, people who look for stories, shooters and rpgs are probably not going to be very pleased with Nintendos offerings.
After having seen the Nintendo stream, they definitely won on the presentation front. It was funny and goofy, and had zero "awkward business man" moments. Though this really is a first, since before they had the exact same dry conferences as everybody else. Still, kudos on the presentation.
But interms of games, only the new Zelda got me excited. Apart from that 70% of the stream was Mario being Mario in Mario games. Now this is obviously me not being invested at all in most of these games, but it just baffles me how so many people can go apeshit over a couple new characters in Smash and act like Nintendo reigns supreme because of it.
Again, Nintendo did a fantastic job at presenting their games, but ultimately they were just the same old IPs, the same old characters. Not that I expected them to try their hand at a big new IP.
But interms of games, only the new Zelda got me excited. Apart from that 70% of the stream was Mario being Mario in Mario games. Now this is obviously me not being invested at all in most of these games, but it just baffles me how so many people can go apeshit over a couple new characters in Smash and act like Nintendo reigns supreme because of it.
Again, Nintendo did a fantastic job at presenting their games, but ultimately they were just the same old IPs, the same old characters. Not that I expected them to try their hand at a big new IP.
The only major IP Nintendo even remotely announced was a new Zelda game. And that was like a 45 second trailer.Silentpony said:
All the other games they announced was Bayonetta 2, Splitoon (new IP and with very good early responses), two very early builds of new IP's Nintendo is working on, a bunch of creative offshots of the main franchises, and a fuck ton more I can't remember.
The only Mario thing in that whole conference was Mario Maker. That's literally it. Everything was new for the most part.
I'm not even sure how people jump to these conclusions. As one whose played Pokemon since Firered, Gamefreak never hides what the games entails in the slightest. I am fully aware that I'm basically buying the same game with different characters and plots, but honestly I don't fucking care because I love playing as the new Pokemon and that's literally all that matters to me. That and getting heavily involved in the metagame which is half the reason why the series has such longevity per game.Dexterity said:
Also time and time again people who have clearly never played the game keep bringing up the whole "two versions" argument. Claiming that they are forcing you to buy two of the same game to get 10 exclusives. I always love telling them how full of shit they are. I have Pokemon X. It took me less than 2 weeks after beating the game to get the other version exclusives. Especially when you can just hop on the internet and trade away.
It's like saying CoD is a scam. Quit bullshitting. Save that word for actual scams. They are a Nintendo cashcow, but not once have they tried to pull the wool over anyone's eyes.
They did?Strazdas said:
That's a serious question too. I remember an hour and a half of boring PR speak from guys in suits, Bloodborne, Metal Gear (longer trailer leaked before E3 even began) Mortal Kombat and... uhh... HD-er remakes of two last gen games. All but two are multiplat. Honestly I'm confused as to why Ubi and EA had showings when Microsoft and Sony showed all their games for them. And it's the Year of Vita right guys? ...guys?
New IP from nintendo on the other hand:
Splatoon
Code Name: STEAM
Fantasy Life
Affordable Space Adventures
I'm told there's two more but I don't know the titles.
Existing franchise representation:
Mario Maker
Captain Toad
Bayonetta 2
Theatrhythm Curtain Call
Yoshi's Woolly World
Kirby and the Rainbow Curse
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Legend of Zelda WiiU
Super Smash Bros
Hyrule Warriors
Star Fox
Guacamelee Super Turbo Championship Edition
Mario Party 10
Persona Q
Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright
Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate
Each of which had more gameplay shown than the entire Sony or Microsoft showings combined. Except for Zelda WiiU, but according to interviews that was run on the in game engine instead of being pre-rendered bullshit.
There's a lot of existing IP representation but it's mostly in spinoffs with wholly different gameplay than the main entries. When Microsoft unveils a Halo we know exactly what it's going to be, when Sony unveils an Uncharted we know exactly what it's going to be, when Nintendo unveils a Mario title there are currently four or more different styles of game it could be. So why are they given the most shit for using their icons?
Best I can figure, the reason is...
