Editorial: Nintendo's E3 Showing is Refreshingly Fun
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Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize you spoke for everyone else. People need to stop using these kinds of all-inclusive phrases, as if what they're saying is actually the majority opinion. It's pretty arrogant to assume that your opinion is shared by "everyone". "Others see as dry and tired" would have worked just fine.Silentpony said:
Judging from a list from IGNorance [http://www.ign.com/wikis/e3/Games_at_E3_2014] the following amount of games were anounced for platforms:Cybylt said:
WiiU, 3DS 36
PS3, PS4, Vita 85
Xbox 360, Xbox One 75
PC 49
according to this very laggy website because embed youtube is not cool okay [http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/10/sony-e3-game-roundup-2014/] Sony anounced 19 games.
according to Another website that thinks its a good idea to embed youtube [http://thenextweb.com/media/2014/06/10/everything-nintendo-announced-e3-press-conference/1/] 12 games were anounced at nintendo E3 event. And even then i would argue that Mario Maker is not an actual game but rather a level editor.
So yes, by both counts Sony has more games.
In fact sony platform has the most games as you can see from first list.
As far as giving them shit, some people never liked thier icons, others are getting bored of them, and third ones write opinionated pieces. I dont care if games are rated whatever, never did, i care if its fun for me, and nintendo games simply dont do it for me, so i dont play them. i tried, that is, some friends talked me into trying, didnt like it much. that isnt my beef here though. my beef is when the article is claiming something that is false while claiming journalism.
they already are, we call them nintendo games. well perhaps not the color part. see, the point is what is fun for you does not necessarely mean fun for others, meanwhile some people do have fun playing those "Devoid of joy" games. STALKER IS FUN, for me. it may not be for you, does not mean its no fun for everyone.KazeAizen said:
it always was. remmeber screenshots on the back of the cartridge that showed gameplay from ANOTHER GAME? yeah, those were great "correct advertisement".Arslan Aladeen said:
If I recall correctly, Other M's Samus was Sakamoto's fault. He wrote that horrible thing. Team Ninja isn't faultless though, they slightly redesigned Samus Zero Suit to make it look shittier (high heels instead of boots, making her muscles a lot less defined).PeaceRider said:
To be honest, Nintendo's show WAS refreshingly fun. Watching it was entertaining and all the titles look at least halfway fun. At least they don't try to pass some trite bullshit as the next step in gaming (looking at you, Destiny).
That vita game list is terrifying and horrible. Creepy anime titles where you use the touch screen to grope girls and then bass fishing. I think I know why they chose to keep quiet about the system now.Strazdas said:
They listed Deep Down? Capcom's said time and again that that game isn't leaving Japan.
The majority of people felt Nintendo's show was a refreshing change of pace from the others because it was, just rapidfire delivery of gameplay video after gameplay video. The longest time between a new game being shown was two or three minutes, not the better part of an hour. They didn't sideline games discussion at a games conference to talk about movies for 40 minutes. And I'd like to point it out again, they showed more gameplay per game than Sony or Microsoft's showings combined. You don't happen to like those games, fine, but that doesn't make it any less of a better presentation since they showed what matters and they got to it quick and consistently.
Following their conference they had two days of nothing but streaming these new games being played and discussed in-depth.
Oh, and I went back through that list and checked the exclusives since that's what sells a system, and here's what we got. Not sure whether to count games that are multiplat but only within that company's platforms, I guess I'll make a note of it.
PS4 10
Abzu
Bloodborne
Entwined (also on Vita)
Grim Fandango HD (also on Vita)
Little Big Planet 3
Ratchet & Clank Remastered
Natural Doctrine (PS3, Vita)
Uncharted 4
The Order: 1886
Last of Us (PS3)
One 13
Crackdown
Phantom Dust
Halo 5
Halo Master Chief Collection (also on 360 according to Amazon)
Gears of War (that was at E3? They had a brief clip of a previous game in their show but I don't think anything new was announced)
Fable Legends
Project Spark (360)
Fantasia Music Evolved (on 360)
Forza Horizon 2 (360)
Inside
Quantum Break
Shape Up
Sunset Overdrive
WiiU 16
Bayonetta 2
Devil's Third
Hyrule Warriors
Kirby and the Rainbow Curse
Legend of Zelda WiiU
Splatoon
Star Fox (kind of the same case as Gears, you can see Miyamoto playing a blurred out Star Fox)
Mario Maker
Mario Party 10
Mario vs Donkey Kong U (not really sure whether this is an HD remake deal or a new entry in itself)
Fire Emblem X Shin Megami Tensei
Sonic Boom
Splatoon
Super Smash Bros
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Yoshi's Woolly World
Ya put in the 3DS titles the list only gets bigger. It's almost like Nintendo decided to say "oh, ya wanna know what we've been up to? We've been making all of THESE!" The amount of exclusives they had was obscene and then the Treehouse stream showed all sorts of gameplay and even showed some new stuff on occasion, such as the mech suit in Bayonetta 2. The entire thing was a game changer with no smoke and mirrors. Not only did that they games, they also showed a wide variety of genres from platforming, RPGs, adventure, fighting, shooters, simulation, party, strategy, and so on. This shows why it's so damn silly to count Nintendo out EVER. You'll get your jabs in for awhile but then a year like THIS rolls around and the one who ends up looking stupid is YOU.Cybylt said:
God forbid you actually read the rest of my post and didn't just dismiss it because nostalgia. I like Nintendo when they come up with something interesting, creative or generally just doing things that make sense, that's why I liked the Wii, that's why I liked Mario Galaxy 1, that's why I liked Skyward Sword. But the everything post Wii U launch has been a slideshow of Nintendo fumbling about with being out of touch and relying on their name to uphold them without any extra effort, hence why we're seeing very little creative titles that are actually 1st Party, because they think just thing slapping a random Mario and Zelda game on the system will attract the fanbase that the Wii drew, not realizing the Wii was popular because it had a purpose and filled a void in the market.Dexterity said:
I read a an article by a dev for a 3rd Party Wii U launch title, (presume it was ZombiU, but I could be wrong,) and the way he talked about his team having to deal with Nintendo it became very obvious that Nintendo were aloof in getting big name devs behind the console and were just relying extensively on their big names to sell the system. And guess how that turned out for them?
No matter your thoughts on Nintendo in general, the majority of the threads based on E3 seems to be based around their announcements, and that speaks volumes.
As for the "They just announced a load of sequels to Mario/Zelda etc." well, of course they're going to do this. These games sell systems, and for good reason. People tend to forget that a brand name is often only popular due to the quality of the items, and Zelda and mario games are often very high quality indeed.
As for the "They just announced a load of sequels to Mario/Zelda etc." well, of course they're going to do this. These games sell systems, and for good reason. People tend to forget that a brand name is often only popular due to the quality of the items, and Zelda and mario games are often very high quality indeed.
I wouldn't say "Refreshingly". Nintendo's like a candy store combined with a bakery that always makes incredible treats and is always there for you.
Sure, you went down to other shops. Some food tasted bitter (spec ops the line), others tasted open and unfettered (GTA), some tasted like sand and gunpowder (COD and battlefield), some tasted bland and boring but they felt they were generating some big important tastes and some people read into them a bit much (Dear Esther), and some were just popcorn with stuff sprinkled on it that you can totally tell is popcorn but the guy selling it says it's popcorn based on choices but you can still tell it's god damn pop corn (Heavy rain).
But the nintendo shop is always open. Sometimes it suffers some cutbacks, but by god it fights to stay open. Until everyone comes back to taste the sweet treats once again. Although sometimes you have to jump through some hoops, but whatever.
Sure, you went down to other shops. Some food tasted bitter (spec ops the line), others tasted open and unfettered (GTA), some tasted like sand and gunpowder (COD and battlefield), some tasted bland and boring but they felt they were generating some big important tastes and some people read into them a bit much (Dear Esther), and some were just popcorn with stuff sprinkled on it that you can totally tell is popcorn but the guy selling it says it's popcorn based on choices but you can still tell it's god damn pop corn (Heavy rain).
But the nintendo shop is always open. Sometimes it suffers some cutbacks, but by god it fights to stay open. Until everyone comes back to taste the sweet treats once again. Although sometimes you have to jump through some hoops, but whatever.
fair enough, i can concede that they showed most gameplay footage, considering thats pretty much all they did.Cybylt said:
And here is your mistake. This is not games conference, thats PAX. This is shareholders conference. they are supposed to talk about why people should invest into them, not show games. it just so happens that showing games is a good way to attract investors. therefore the amount of gameplay shown or how long they talked about movies is completely irrelevant since this is E3.
Oh, and nintendo wasnt even part of it either, they just released thier own conference at the same time.
Well, i never claimed that Sony had more exclusives announced, merely more games overall. and i personally find exclusives as a DETRIMENT to the system. a system thats going to hold games hostage to a single platform is not worth my money. Obviuosly, nintendo is going to have most of them because ports to other systems are not allowed thanks to nintendo thinking they still own gaming, while other systems game developers are more free to multiplayform. the whole concept of games selling systems is wrong. systems should sell based on what the system is, and games should run on all of them. you know, like CD players, Mp3 palyers, DVD players, BR players, Cars, ect, ect?
When was the last time you saw car-exclusive fuel at gas station? never. because thats ridiculous concept. Yet gaming is very disfunctional and seems to get away with it so far.
Nostalgia and brand attachment often has much higher effect than actual quality. people in general are not smart shoppers. they will go for the braind they recognise rather thna for the best one. this is how old inferior products stay in the market. brand loyalty more than anything.rosac said:
and yet majority of people shop in supermarkets and not candy stores. people like variety, and sweet 100% of the time is not variety, oh and if were going with that analogy its also bad for your teeth and youll get overweight. im sure you can fill in the blanks of how its analogous to nintendo.Racecarlock said:
While that is true the moment exclusives go away is the moment console gaming dies since their makers as well as the publishers they back are doing their damndest to make consoles into just crappy PCs with unintuitive UIs and subscription fees for everything. At least nintendo is the maker of, and tries to do something different from a hardware point to give credence to their exclusivity.Strazdas said:
I've been getting a little confused whenever people talk about Console Exclusivity* when the games in question are also on PC, which means a definitively better working version of the game exists, on a system of comparable cost at that. The barrier to PC gaming relies solely on lies and ignorance these days. But that's not really a discussion for this thread I guess.
PC + WiiU seems to be the winning combo as a result of the exlcusivity nonsense, in any case. I mean, what's worse, one or two interesting games "held hostage" by exclusivity? Or twenty? See, I can justify a system purchase on twenty games but I certainly can not for two plus an annual subscription to actually play them in their entirety.
You forgot Miyamoto's two project games, so bump that up to 18.Cybylt said:
OT: I would definitely agree that Nintendo's presentation was fun, and yeah was even mostly refreshing. The new Yoshi and Kirby games (oh, and Smash Bros of course) were probably the least refreshing, though they undeniably have a pretty coat of paint. Zelda seems to be going in a direction we haven't seen for nearly 30 years, Splatoon looks amazing (not being an online battle arena guy I was initially uninterested, but as they kept explaining more and more I fell in love).
im all for restricted shitty PCs to die. they either make consoles that are unique to consoles or they dont make them. why would i want to buy inferior product for the same price? WiiU is at least unique, albeit my experience with it was akin to "ok now if they would stop using this pad screen completely it would be 100% better".Cybylt said:
When a game is on PC it is not a console exclusive. the people that say that are usually people who lack intelligence to realize that PC gaming is a larger market in direct competition with consoles. they like to think that consoles exist in a bubble despite them being the least efficient and profitable gaming market at the moment.
What i actually liked was the PlaystationNow thing, which may allow me to stream-play PS3 exclusives that, as a PC gamer, i wasnt able to access before. That is, if it actually works as intended, but at least they are trying to somehow limit the exclusivity here.
Altrough seeing where market is going its going to be more economically sound (albeit possibly legal gray are) solution to just wait for emulation. Emulator is on the way and is making progress, question is only if id be able to buy TLOU and use it to play it. I mean, you can use your PS1/PS2 CDs on emulators.