Editorial: Nintendo's E3 Showing is Refreshingly Fun
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See what you call cynical I call pattern recognition. This is why people have such problems with Nintendo and its fans; they keep mixing words up. Not their fault, but this really is a perspective problem. What you see as fun and new, just about everyone else sees as dry and tired.KazeAizen said:
Not everyone, true. Some people even now are debating who that guy in the Zelda trailer was after Nintendo said it wasn't necessarily Link. My problem is this: even if its NOT Link, if its some completely random guy, its still a Zelda game. He's still going to get a fairy bow, a hookshot and a series of bottles. He's still going to fight monsters in various themed temples/dungeons and unlock sages or sage like items or sage like powers.
Call me a cynic, but to that's simply seeing the Nintendo pattern.
Nintendo has shown almost twice as many new titles as sequels this year. About half of those are spin offs. So we have a roughly 1-1-1 ratio of sequels, spin offs, and new IP's. 1/3 of Nintendo projects are changing the way old IP's are used and 1/3 are completely new IP's.Strazdas said:
Speaking as someone who very much greatly wishes Nintendo would abandon the hardware market, who also has felt the sting of purchasing a Wii early in its life-cycle and was greatly let down by the library that never was, AND someone who was all about watching Nintendo die from a constant lack of true originality (rather than "innovating for innovation's sake"), I am now currently researching how to get a WiiU. Say what you will, but they're damn good at making a case this time around. I'm actually a little excited to see what Nintendo is doing for the first time since the last generation.
I own a Wii U and I highly recommend it. It is the only gaming system I use often besides my PC.Morbira said:
Important information you may have missed since you are not yet a Wii U owner: If you get a copy of Mario Kart Wii U and register it on club Nintendo by July 31 you get a free Wii U game (you get to choose from a small list, the list varies depending on where you live.) So if you are interested in Mario Kart I would recommend getting the Mario Kart bundle.
Do you want a gold sticker with that? I mean, your seriously acting like your one of the only people (i.e non Nintendo fans) to recognize and understand Nintendo's 'nefarious smokescreen patterns'. Please dude. We are all very aware of how Nintendo goes about making games.Silentpony said:
We all knew when the 3DS came out there was going to be an Animal Crossing, Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon game. With Pokemon itself we know they release at least 6 titles of the core franchise. The new generation one with it's two versions, the third one that expounds upon the first games, and two remake versions of older titles on obsolete systems. Nobody is every surprised at the announcement of a new Pokemon game. However we are excited by it because we love playing Pokemon. You see the difference here?
Nobody in the Nintendo fandom is surprised at a new console Zelda game, or a Mario Kart game, or a Smash Bros. game. Nobody. However we sure as hell are excited for it because-again- we love the franchise. For a good chunk of us they always bring fun and enjoyment to the players in question. Especially Zelda since we never know what they are going to do with the game. Last game involved a floating island with giant birds.
It's almost like you can't simply accept the fact that people will play and enjoy games regardless of how "same" it is because we genuinely enjoy those games. But no, it's either we are too stupid to realize it, or we are somehow being "tricked" by imaginary Nintendo magic to not see through any of this.
Nintendo is selling refurbished Wii U Deluxe's for 200$ on their website. It comes with everything that a deluxe system normally comes with.Morbira said:
https://store.nintendo.com/ng3/browse/productDetailColorSizePicker.jsp?_DARGS=/ng3/global/gadgets/productListRangeRow.jsp.addToCartFormId
Yeah, it was only now that Gamefreak started to really recognize the fact that Pokemon metagames are an actual thing.Dexterity said:
As for the rest of your post, I agree with you. It's kind of what Studio Ghibili is doing right now. They are making movies for children, so when they grow up they have a fresh demographic for the more mature movies.
Yep it could, and i suspect it will end up being 720/30 rather than 1080 as some people are predicting right now (press screenshots are 1080, but that could have been taken via the console after its been scaled by the console. My WiiU still outputs the 720p Mario kart as 1080 to my TV so assume somethings unscaled before it gets to the TV).Dexterity said:
However that teaser trailer has been confirmed via multiple sources to be in game (but using debug stuff to move the camera) so at least the big field and the inital horse run was in game and playable. There is some debate as to whether the monster fight was in game with debug camera/slowdown or a in engine cut scene as there are some translation issues to deal with, some are confused as how it was refereed to on miiverse.
yeah this thread started out a bit silly, but if you talk about Nintendo you should expect thread shitting i guess, despite it being against most places rulesDexterity said:
I just find it hilarious that before E3, so many people were calling for Nintendo to abandon the Wii U hardware and declare it an utter failure. Then Nintendo comes to E3 and says "Well, we were actually kinda busy making ALL THESE GAMES for it."
The SNES and NES and Gameboy would like to disagree with you. Those three consoles were made from a position of supreme dominance and they were all high points in Nintendo game making.Olas said:
And also Nintendo douchebaggery, but still awesome games.
I also really liked Nintendo?s conference, the only thing I really disliked where the jabs at game journalists, but that's only because I really want mother 3 and a new starfox game myself.
Thankfully they are actually making a new star fox, so I?m rather confused by the last robot chicken sketch.
Thankfully they are actually making a new star fox, so I?m rather confused by the last robot chicken sketch.
That's why I always find those threads hilarious; it's utterly pointless because eventually a year like THIS happens and then everyone is made to look like fools. Same thing with the 3DS as people got their jabs in while they could because the avalanche of releases happened and then they were forced to shut their mouths. And it amazes me that people to this day STILL can't see that pattern. Why don't they just cut out the middle man and just not resort to the childish taunts against Nintendo in the first place? There's no point to it.Mike Pothier said:
Put me done for the 'Nintendo wins E3' crowd.
if for no other reason then the games presented actually made consider getting a WiiU
if for no other reason then the games presented actually made consider getting a WiiU
I expect them to show something that's representative of the product they are trying to sell me, but I guess that's too much to hope for in this day in age.Kahani said:
I will agree that Nintendo had a fun presentation of games, many of which were bright and colorful and appear to be good for the whole family. Which is basically what Nintendo nearly always shoots for, with the occasional exception. I'm happy to see them try to do something with the GamePad, as that is the main thing that really positively differentiates the WiiU from the competition.
But let's be fair. Not all the games shown were gameplay. They may have been using the game engine, but Xenoblade was all cutscene and Zelda U appeared to primarily be cutscene. Some of the Sony trailers shown were rendering in the game engine as well, and for things like Uncharted 4, we all know what the gameplay is going to be like anyway. Same for Zelda, really.
All said though, Nintendo may have breathed some new life into the WiiU. It's not out of the woods just yet, but it's starting to make it's way.
But let's be fair. Not all the games shown were gameplay. They may have been using the game engine, but Xenoblade was all cutscene and Zelda U appeared to primarily be cutscene. Some of the Sony trailers shown were rendering in the game engine as well, and for things like Uncharted 4, we all know what the gameplay is going to be like anyway. Same for Zelda, really.
All said though, Nintendo may have breathed some new life into the WiiU. It's not out of the woods just yet, but it's starting to make it's way.
Xenoblade may have been cutscenes, but they are ingame cutscenes so it's still an accurate representation of what the game will look like when played. There is a difference between CGI rendered cutscenes and unplayable segments using in game models.COMaestro said:
As for the Zelda trailer Nintendo has stated that this was in game graphics. Now whether or not the scene that played out is something that can happen to the player we will have to wait. However that probably means it's also an in game cutscene.