Editor's Note: DIY

CopperBoom

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Harsh words, but...
I get it.

I agree.
I too have spent so long letting things slide, so much so I feel somewhat to blame.
 

Sjakie

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This made me laugh so hard. It's about time someone with knowledge of the business said what the other fans already knew.

I loved Black Isle, what came next was nothing more then decay and shame.
 

krellen

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If I actually encountered more bugs than average with Obsidian products, I'd understand the ire so oft thrown their way. However, I experience no more bugs with Obsidian than I do with any other developer, and thus the quality of their ideas and stories make up for any technical glitches. I can get technical glitches anywhere; Obsidian is the only place I can get stories and characters that inspire me.
 

Nobby

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I'm happy to say I can't agree with the article. I've been exploring New Vegas for nearly 100 hours and am yet to encounter a bug or crash that ruins my experience. Sure I've had the annoying standard Gamebryo rubbish but that's hardly Obsidians fault. I guess what I'm saying is maybe I'm lucky.
 

talideon

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Sannom said:
The first reviews are in [http://www.gamebanshee.com/news/103087-dungeon-siege-iii-magazine-reviews.html]. The game is nearly bug-free. Bad timing Mr Pitts.
Excellent news! With luck, further reviews will bear out that Obsidian's first game where they've been given sufficient resources redeems their reputation.
 

Soylent Dave

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zelda2fanboy said:
I don't get what the deal is. Ever consider that your system itself might be on its last legs? I've seen about two or three major bugs in the last 40 hours, and none of them were a significant problem.
That's the problem - two or three major bugs in 40 hours isn't considered bad programming?

Are your standards (or expectations) really that low?

My problem with Obsidian / Black Isle isn't that every game they've ever released has been choppy (at best) and unfinished (or rushed), but that they refuse to address the issue - usually blaming the publisher.

It's not the publisher, Obsidian - it's you guys. You are shit at finishing games. You're bad at identifying problems, you're crap at fixing them and the bugs you do create aren't just irritating, but tend to make bits of your games unplayable.

Sort it out.
 

Hristo Tzonkov

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I'm sorry but what a crock of bull...I've had little of the those bugs and there were some gamebreakers but I learned to work around those ever since I started playing Fallout 1 and 2.Don't give me that look.You did too.It's an integral part of any old school rpg pc gaming fan.I want to also say that their games are gradually actually getting better.I didn't like Kotor 2 or NWN2 but damn Alpha Protocol and New Vegas.1 really pushed the envelope the other took me back to my roots.

Ah well.Must be just me,or it's a fad to bash on games.
 

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I've logged about two hundered hours in New Vegas, and don't hate Obsidian. The Fallout 3 GOTY's bugs were a lot worse, and it froze at least once every half hour. I can comprehend the meaning of loathing Obsidian, but don't agree with it.
 

mirasiel

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I wonder if I am just super lucky, I dont think I ever ran into a bug with NWN 2 (which I still pick up and replay with regularity with all the expansion packs) or Alpha Protocol that I played to fucking death on the xb360.

iirc the Fallout games were *always* bugged to fucked, hells I remember getting the higwayman car in Fallout 2 only to find out that the fucking boot of the car dissapeared at random, along with the loot you stored in it :(

Never completed Kotor 2, just didnt enjoy the d20 it used which is wierd I know.
 

Chase Yojimbo

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I've always been dissapointed by Obsidian. They can certainly talk their way into getting sex but once they get there they just sortuv sit there with no audio feedback while their eye slowly twitches like a glitch.

Personally Obsidian needs to really think about what they want to do because video/pc games obviously isn't in their criteria.
 

zelda2fanboy

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Soylent Dave said:
That's the problem - two or three major bugs in 40 hours isn't considered bad programming?

Are your standards (or expectations) really that low?
Yes. I've never gotten through any modern game without at least one freeze, graphical glitch, or gameplay malfunction. It happens. The fact that the Fallout games let you save and autosave at virtually any spot and an unlimited number of times, it really keeps the bugs from getting out of hand when you encounter them. Twilight Princess and Metroid Other M both had major game breaking errors that required Nintendo to mail SD cards to people. I couldn't finish 3D Dot Game Heroes because it froze every 20 minutes. The same with Ninja Gaiden 2. After a bunch of updates, when I played through Heavy Rain, it still had a dialog option that led to a dead end that required a level restart.

So, I'd say 3 errors for the type of game Fallout is (one with mountains of scripting, collectible objects, tons of characters, helpful NPCs) it's not that bad. Remember kids, save often and back them up. Your xbox has a USB port for a reason.
 

Saelune

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Wow...to have Russ Pits say Fuck You like that...its like hearing your dad curse out a guy (when he normally is polite) and it just screws with your mind.
 

r_Chance

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The only Obsidian game I've never played is Alpha Protocol. No interest in it. The others (from KotOR 2 on) I have played, and enjoyed. The technical issues were rarely more than annoying but I guess that's my (good) luck. In NV (PC) for example I only had a couple of freezes in my whole play through. Haven't done the dlc yet so there is some room for disaster. It's almost cult like the amount of whining people do about them. The only reason I have any interest in Dungeon Siege III at all is because of Obsidian. I feel... unusual :)
 

ImmortalDrifter

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LogicNProportion said:
...But Russ, dude, your signature looks like it reads as "Puss Pitts." : I
Exactly what i thought...

But seriously I played New Vegas and loved it. Guess that makes me a minority?
 

EmeraldGreen

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Why is this issue called "DIY"? Is it because we're supposed to write the articles ourselves?
 

widowspeak

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Like I needed another reason to love you, man. You have voiced EVERYTHING I have EVER felt in regard to Obsidian Entertainment. Thank you.