Election results discussion thread (and sadly the inevitable aftermath)

[Houseman]

So now you think there are counterfeit ballots? Well then, you've graduated from irrational to literally delusional.

That's based on the testimony of witnesses who said they saw ballots with signatures that all look similar, and completely smooth ballots without creases, which indicates they had never been folded (like how you would just print one)

Also the whole thing behind telling everyone to go home while a few stay behind and pull ballots from underneath tables and count them with no oversight.

 

[Mister Mumbler]

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Oh, is that the same person? I never made the connection.

Also:

The Georgia Vote-Counting Video Was Not 'Debunked.' Not Even Close

A 'fact' 'checking' outfit claimed to debunk explosive evidence for Republicans' claims of significant election problems in Georgia. It didn't.

thefederalist.com

And

"A tip of the Stetson to (who the hell ever) for reminding us what real journalism looks like."

"The Georgia Dems & RINOs...."

Yep, this is what Houseman considers to be "unbiased reporting".

 

[Houseman]

Yep, this is what Houseman considers to be "unbiased reporting".

When did I say that? I'm just posting what the Trump squad posts/retweets

 

[Phoenixmgs]

In short, we have no way from the information in that Twitter feed to accurately judge what the situation is.

Shocker! Using Twitter to accurately judge the situation doesn't work out...

Recounts only find evidence of specific types of fraud. They don't find counterfeit ballots.
I was implying that the recount was worthless, because what they really need is a full forensic audit.

Hence my analogy. Counting counterfeit money doesn't separate the fakes from the real currency.

You can't just do a recount and feel confident that absolutely no fraud happened. If you do, and you are, then you're either in on it or not very intelligent.

But but but but but... what about all that "evidence" that those Dominion voting machines have some algorithm to flip the election to Biden? Why would the Democrats need to both cheat via the voting machines and also stuffing the ballot box with fake ballots? None of this makes sense. You either know (or think it's very likely) that there's fraud because you uncovered information pointing to it or you just make it up as you go. When you want there to be fraud when you don't know if there's fraud, you jump from theory to theory with no evidence to back it up because you're trying to build a case on your desired outcome instead of based on evidence.

The much much much much more likely scenario is Pennsylvania and Michigan returned to voting democratic as they did in the last 6 of 7 elections, and Wisconsin also returned to being democratic as well since they voted that way in 7 of the last 8 elections.

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The Democratics have been doing this for decades!!!!! And they didn't think anyone could lose to Trump in 2016 and thus didn't cheat. We didn't get the rigged voting machines from Hugo Chavez and Venezuala, they got them from US!!!!!!!!

 

[Houseman]

Why would the Democrats need to both cheat via the voting machines and also stuffing the ballot box with fake ballots?

Why wouldn't they want to cheat via multiple means? Higher chances of victory.

The Democratics have been doing this for decades!!!!!

They didn't have mail-in voting at the scale we had this time.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Why wouldn't they want to cheat via multiple means? Higher chances of victory.



They didn't have mail-in voting at the scale we had this time.

More ways to get caught too.

But they have the algorithm! What does it matter where the ballots come from?!?!

 

[Agema]

Shocker! Using Twitter to accurately judge the situation doesn't work out...

This is essentially a bunch of ignorami claiming a professional's criticism of an underqualified amateur's work is a load of rubbish. It's not likely to lead to a happy place.

 

[Silvanus]

That's based on the testimony of witnesses who said they saw ballots with signatures that all look similar, and completely smooth ballots without creases, which indicates they had never been folded (like how you would just print one)

Also the whole thing behind telling everyone to go home while a few stay behind and pull ballots from underneath tables and count them with no oversight.

So a bunch of vague circumstantial accusations, then. Quelle surprise.

I'm just posting what the Trump squad posts/retweets

We've noticed.

 

[Godzillarich(aka tf2godz)]

Shocker! Using Twitter to accurately judge the situation doesn't work out...

The ignorance of using Twitter as a news source it's just embarrassing.

Anyway got some more news from Twitter...


Arizona GOP Twitter has apparently lost its mind.

 

[SilentPony]

Arizona GOP Twitter has apparently lost its mind.

To be fair Arizona. I'm pretty sure being mindless is a requirement for even living in the state, let alone being a Republican.

 

[Houseman]

Texas is bringing a lawsuit to the Supreme Court against 4 other states.

 

[Generals]

Can we officially start considering this a "witch hunt"?

 

[Avnger]

Can we officially start considering this a "witch hunt"?

It's really more of a Buttery Males situation.

 

[Houseman]

 

[Buyetyen]

Pennsylvania resident here. Levin is overtly full of shit. That is all.

 

[Chimpzy]

 

[Agema]

I just want to pick out this gem:

"The probability of former Vice President Biden winning the popular vote in the four Defendant States — Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin — independently given President Trump’s early lead in those States as of 3 a.m. on November 4, 2020, is less than one in a quadrillion, or 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000. For former Vice President Biden to win these four States collectively, the odds of that event happening decrease to less than one in a quadrillion to the fourth power"

This is hilarious. I mean, I'd love to see what the working was here.

In science, we have a principle that if your model fails to match reality, something is wrong with your model. It's always fun to see someone who thinks that when there's a mismatch between their model and reality, there's something wrong with reality.

 

[Houseman]

I just want to pick out this gem:

"The probability of former Vice President Biden winning the popular vote in the four Defendant States — Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin — independently given President Trump’s early lead in those States as of 3 a.m. on November 4, 2020, is less than one in a quadrillion, or 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000. For former Vice President Biden to win these four States collectively, the odds of that event happening decrease to less than one in a quadrillion to the fourth power"

This is hilarious. I mean, I'd love to see what the working was here.

In science, we have a principle that if your model fails to match reality, something is wrong with your model. It's always fun to see someone who thinks that when there's a mismatch between their model and reality, there's something wrong with reality.

Yeah, I didn't know what was going on with that one, so I didn't post it.

edit: Oh, yes I did, because it's in the Texas lawsuit.

 

[SilentPony]

I just want to pick out this gem:

"The probability of former Vice President Biden winning the popular vote in the four Defendant States — Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin — independently given President Trump’s early lead in those States as of 3 a.m. on November 4, 2020, is less than one in a quadrillion, or 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000. For former Vice President Biden to win these four States collectively, the odds of that event happening decrease to less than one in a quadrillion to the fourth power"

This is hilarious. I mean, I'd love to see what the working was here.

In science, we have a principle that if your model fails to match reality, something is wrong with your model. It's always fun to see someone who thinks that when there's a mismatch between their model and reality, there's something wrong with reality.

Yeah shit like that actually has to be proven in court. I think it was the Jim Sterling vs DigiHom shit where Jim had said in a video there wasn't enough popcorn in the world to make their games worth watching, and DigiHom said that was slander and there was, and Jim's lawyer's response was "Prove it. Prove there is enough popcorn in the world."