its nice when a development studio just straight up say something like this i totally respect them for that. just completely tired of how everything has to so PC for PR >.<Straying Bullet said:
Epic President: "The Money's On Console"
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Nice research you did there, the quotes highlight what the industry pretty much thinks and thats all that really matters to them. I mean you could argue that piracy isn't as big a problem as they make out, but they are the ones investing millions into something and then millions more to attempt to protect their investment. Whilst I really don't see PC gaming just dying, I do see it becoming much smaller and big exclusives becoming very rare. Hell the recent news that people where Pirating the Humble Indie Bundle just confirmed to me that Pirates on PCs are just dicks period. The true problem will occur when piracy increases on the consoles.BlindChance said:
Is that why art students at my girlfriends college sell 50c worth of paper with some crayon scratchings on them for ?300? And I litterally mean scratchings.Dark Templar said:
I bought The Saboteur, Mass Effect 2, Battlefield Bad Company 2, Dragon Age: Origins and Awakening. So I guess that counts.JEBWrench said:
And what game did they say that for?
Sigh. XBOX360 is getting pirated like crazy. Duh, as the components continue to become just a PC you can't upgrade the pirating becomes more similar as well. But it is hard to imagine with such a massive consumer base of PC's around the world that pirating cancels that out. It just doesn't compute. You are talking orders of magnitude more PC's than consoles worldwide.
And who is fooling whom here, by far the biggest piracy has got to be the countries around the world that blow off any consideration of copyright, Asian continent and surrounds in particular, not individuals torrenting.
I can't afford to support multiple gaming platforms and the PC is the one with multiple functions. If companies feel my $60, along with millions of others, is unwanted then I won't bother with them either. If a company gives me the back of the hand and brings a title out months later for PC or not at all, screw them.
I just watched Alan Wake on Youtube. A pale version of playing it myself? Of course, but since they don't want me for a customer I don't see much choice. Now I know how the game's story comes out and if some day a year from now a crappy, buggy port, likely still loaded with some insulting DRM scheme comes out for the PC they can jam it in their ear.
I'm really tired of being treated as guilty of theft before proven innocent and devalued as a customer because of my preference in gaming platform. They should be equal. My system is upgraded and has capability consoles can't touch and that gap becomes more apparent as each gen of consoles ages. But so what? I think it's great that so many people love their PS3s and Xbox's, handhelds, etc.
If it gets too severe I guess I'll eventually bail on gaming as an activity and find something else for a hobby. It really is that unacceptable to me. Really a shame as I've enjoyed gaming since I was a kid with a Commodore 64 until now.
Who needs being insulted, disregarded and generally made to feel unwanted when they are just looking for some fun and escapism?
And who is fooling whom here, by far the biggest piracy has got to be the countries around the world that blow off any consideration of copyright, Asian continent and surrounds in particular, not individuals torrenting.
I can't afford to support multiple gaming platforms and the PC is the one with multiple functions. If companies feel my $60, along with millions of others, is unwanted then I won't bother with them either. If a company gives me the back of the hand and brings a title out months later for PC or not at all, screw them.
I just watched Alan Wake on Youtube. A pale version of playing it myself? Of course, but since they don't want me for a customer I don't see much choice. Now I know how the game's story comes out and if some day a year from now a crappy, buggy port, likely still loaded with some insulting DRM scheme comes out for the PC they can jam it in their ear.
I'm really tired of being treated as guilty of theft before proven innocent and devalued as a customer because of my preference in gaming platform. They should be equal. My system is upgraded and has capability consoles can't touch and that gap becomes more apparent as each gen of consoles ages. But so what? I think it's great that so many people love their PS3s and Xbox's, handhelds, etc.
If it gets too severe I guess I'll eventually bail on gaming as an activity and find something else for a hobby. It really is that unacceptable to me. Really a shame as I've enjoyed gaming since I was a kid with a Commodore 64 until now.
Who needs being insulted, disregarded and generally made to feel unwanted when they are just looking for some fun and escapism?
So if I'm reading this right, you're basically resorting to the "casual" vs. "hardcore" bullshit label argument again. Frankly I don't see what the deal is. Ok so the games being played like Farmville aren't necessarily fitting your definition of a game, hell they don't fit my definition either, but unfortunately they are games and acting like an elitist isn't going to change that.squid5580 said:
And really I don't see this apocalypse of casuals happening either. There are plenty of mainstream and independent developers still thriving on the PC market.
Uhh either you are reading it wrong or you quoted the wrong post. Nowhere do I use hardcore or casual. Those words are meaningless to me. Nor do I claim Farmville isn't a game. It is. Not my type of game but it is a game. They have found a way to attract more customers. How? By changing the way we game. 360 and PS3 are also thriving FOR NOW. Games that require joysticks and buttons are thriving FOR NOW. What is it going to look like 20 years from now when kids grow up not playing Doom or Quake or NESes but using things like Natals and Wiimotes? How is a mouse and keyboard going to appeal to them then?AceDiamond said:
And how are they supposed to afford to make said art? How long would it take them to make a game if they have to work a 9-5. Take care of a family. And eat? How much money do you think they get to keep and how much goes into the next piece of art? You sound like you want a company to make a game and then shut it down. Close the doors, hand out the pink slips and everyone goes on their merry way. That is not the way to encourage more artists to spend years and tons of cash for schooling for a one shot deal.Dark Templar said: