Escape from Nightmare Mansion. Win an XBOX 360 with Kinect!
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The thing is that when comparing to other contests held on other websites I don't see why they limit it.Selerik said:Keep in mind that the Escapist only has so many staff and so many opportunities to create new connections. I do not doubt they are interested in pulling in events that include usually neglected regions, but it may not be very easy for them to manage it. Particularly if the laws or rules for such are very different from what their staff are trained to handle.Hagi said:This particular contest is, but why exactly is every single contest done by American branches?Staskala said:It's less about legal matters and more about the corporate structure.Askray said:Shipping isn't the problem. It's every country having different laws when it comes down to doing contests, raffles etc that is the problem.
This is a promotion done by SEGA's American branch, which obviously doesn't concern itself with promotion outside its domain, so the contest is NA-only.
To me this just reeks of laziness and waiting for others to come to you for things like this instead of pro-actively approaching distributors across the globe for contests.
And every contest there's complaints about it being US-only, but apparently the crew here doesn't think it important enough to try fixing that.
If the Escapist really wants to be an international community then it needs to grow out of this "USA = The world" mindset and put some effort into providing for that community.
I've seen very little to suggest that the Escapist has some sort of "USA = The world" mentality. I believe their last contest included USA, Canada, and Oceania. I havn't seen any for the rest of the world just yet. Maybe this is something that can be nudged towards a remedy.
There is an 'Ideas for the Escapist' user group. Great place to go and post suggestions on HOW they might manage a contest in your country sooner rather than later.
Just my two cents.
Take this contest [http://www.rtsguru.com/contests/4/Space-Pirates-and-Zombies-Giveaway.html], their eligibility is defined as:
The drawing is only eligible to members of the RTSGuru.com website who are residents the United States and/or who reside in a region where such contests are not prohibited by law, who are 13 years of age or older and not employees of CCI, CCI sponsors, CCI volunteer staff or CCI affiliates and their families. Only one entry is allowed per person and is limited to one entry per household.
What's so impossible about adding clauses like that? You're not guaranteeing that you'll be able to ship outside the US, but at least you're allowing those countries where it's legally possible to actually enter.
Why not do that? What's the harm? I'm pretty sure with the position the US has in business there's quite a few countries whose laws have adapted to those in the US, likely including matters like these.
If I don't win the grand prize how much do you guys think this game would get at Gamestop? I don't have a kinect so for me it's grand prize or cash.
In a word? Sponsorship.Hagi said:The thing is that when comparing to other contests held on other websites I don't see why they limit it.Selerik said:Keep in mind that the Escapist only has so many staff and so many opportunities to create new connections. I do not doubt they are interested in pulling in events that include usually neglected regions, but it may not be very easy for them to manage it. Particularly if the laws or rules for such are very different from what their staff are trained to handle.Hagi said:This particular contest is, but why exactly is every single contest done by American branches?Staskala said:It's less about legal matters and more about the corporate structure.Askray said:Shipping isn't the problem. It's every country having different laws when it comes down to doing contests, raffles etc that is the problem.
This is a promotion done by SEGA's American branch, which obviously doesn't concern itself with promotion outside its domain, so the contest is NA-only.
To me this just reeks of laziness and waiting for others to come to you for things like this instead of pro-actively approaching distributors across the globe for contests.
And every contest there's complaints about it being US-only, but apparently the crew here doesn't think it important enough to try fixing that.
If the Escapist really wants to be an international community then it needs to grow out of this "USA = The world" mindset and put some effort into providing for that community.
I've seen very little to suggest that the Escapist has some sort of "USA = The world" mentality. I believe their last contest included USA, Canada, and Oceania. I havn't seen any for the rest of the world just yet. Maybe this is something that can be nudged towards a remedy.
There is an 'Ideas for the Escapist' user group. Great place to go and post suggestions on HOW they might manage a contest in your country sooner rather than later.
Just my two cents.
Take this contest [http://www.rtsguru.com/contests/4/Space-Pirates-and-Zombies-Giveaway.html], their eligibility is defined as:
The drawing is only eligible to members of the RTSGuru.com website who are residents the United States and/or who reside in a region where such contests are not prohibited by law, who are 13 years of age or older and not employees of CCI, CCI sponsors, CCI volunteer staff or CCI affiliates and their families. Only one entry is allowed per person and is limited to one entry per household.
What's so impossible about adding clauses like that? You're not guaranteeing that you'll be able to ship outside the US, but at least you're allowing those countries where it's legally possible to actually enter.
Why not do that? What's the harm? I'm pretty sure with the position the US has in business there's quite a few countries whose laws have adapted to those in the US, likely including matters like these.
Its very likely this contest is entirely sponsored by SEGA of America, and that they specified the region they want to advertise to. As a result, only that region is eligible.
If you're working with sponsored contests, which I suspect is the case, then you will run into that limitation time and again.
Now lets look at the contest you linked for a moment. It is advertising a small indy title that is not region specific. There is little to zero chance it'll show up on store shelves, and will likely be published entirely electronically. They have no benefit whatsoever in limiting the region.
That said, contests like that might be able to do well on the Escapist site. I'm not sure who specifically to talk to, but again, you could suggest something to the Ideas for the Escapist group.
Why would you lump Canada into this contest? You think we're included too? Think again. United States does not include Canada thank you very much.Reaper195 said:
2. ELIGIBILITY. Entrants must be at least 18 years old and must reside in either the US or Canada to be eligible.Wandrecanada said:
EDIT: Huh while it shows that Canadians are included on the actual rule page, the introduction makes no note of this in its minor rules. I think this is what is causing the confusion, perhaps that should be edited or clarified to avoid something like this.
this contest [http://www.fpsguru.com/contests/1/Gears-of-War-3-Launch-Giveaway.html] operates under the same eligibility, not exactly a small indy title with zero chance to show up on store shelves.Selerik said:In a word? Sponsorship.
Its very likely this contest is entirely sponsored by SEGA of America, and that they specified the region they want to advertise to. As a result, only that region is eligible.
If you're working with sponsored contests, which I suspect is the case, then you will run into that limitation time and again.
Now lets look at the contest you linked for a moment. It is advertising a small indy title that is not region specific. There is little to zero chance it'll show up on store shelves, and will likely be published entirely electronically. They have no benefit whatsoever in limiting the region.
That said, contests like that might be able to do well on the Escapist site. I'm not sure who specifically to talk to, but again, you could suggest something to the Ideas for the Escapist group.
And I get that sponsorships mean that you'll deal with limitations, but every single time? If that's the case then who exactly is doing these other contests that do allow a larger part of the world?
Seeing as other websites are able to hold international contests and while the Escapist may not be the biggest it isn't a small player either I can't see why they add limitations like this while others aren't.
But yeah, I'll see if I can bring this to attention in the Escapist group. Not trying to argue with you personally btw, I'm just baffled and frankly a bit pissed off that contest after contest there's not even the slightest bit of admittance that there's a world outside North America.
That's usually how it works. It gives people time to figure out about the arragement and sign up and everything before the event actually starts.Smurfy 0151 said:
OT: I live in Norway so i can't win this, which i think is some real arbitrary sillyness. Still gonna play though. I want me some Escapist Badges if anything.
"Win an Xbox plus Kinect."
Oooh.
"US only."
Stupid Australia.
Oh well. Looks interesting anyway. Congrats to the (future) winner.
Oooh.
"US only."
Stupid Australia.
Oh well. Looks interesting anyway. Congrats to the (future) winner.
I wonder how exactly they expect us to be able to find users with the "Undead Monster" badge. Do we just have to watch the leaderboards? Do we just have to scour the forums until we see it beneath people's posts? Seems that the more time you are willing to put in, the better you're able to do.
Meh, not too fond of the 'put your real address/information here BEFORE you win anything' deal. Always afraid of that 'selling your info' shtick, especially when there's no 'click here to prevent us from doing so'. Sega clearly gets much more out of us than we do in return..
Yeah, count me in on that part too. I'm kinda confused as to how do we find someone with the "Undead Monster" badge as well. Most of the time it's just usally "play game, enter contest or take quiz" and you get the badge like a few minutes later. Could anyone please explain this to me, I'm rather lost on what to do now... D:Omega Scythe said:
Wonder how much Gamestop will give me for this. If I don't win the main prize I might just get some credit or cash for it and use it towards another game.
I have to make it clear to everyone that as long as you are in the top 20, you have just as good a chance to get the prize as anyone else on the leaderboard, even the person in the #1 spot.
Considering that I was on the top spot in the El Shaddai thing and only got the secondary prize and the eligibility is the same as that contest, yeah, I'm certain this is the rule they're going by.
Honestly, this is a much better option for peoples' sanity. You don't have to hammer at the Escapist constantly to still have a chance.
Also, bots and automation is simply not permitted. That gave Kross such a hard time last contest. :/
Considering that I was on the top spot in the El Shaddai thing and only got the secondary prize and the eligibility is the same as that contest, yeah, I'm certain this is the rule they're going by.
Honestly, this is a much better option for peoples' sanity. You don't have to hammer at the Escapist constantly to still have a chance.
Also, bots and automation is simply not permitted. That gave Kross such a hard time last contest. :/
ANOTHER badge clicking game??? My eyes just got back to normal after El Shaddai! The mansion part looks cool, though. And I'd still love a 360, but since I won a copy of the last game, I'll probably not win anything this go around. Still, it should be fun to play. Is it really only a night game, or do we fight zombies all day? (I might be reading too much into the backstory...)