What about the new pixar movie coming up and john carter?SirDeadly said:
(although I agree with you I am totally stoked for the hobbit; I'm re-reading the book now)
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(although I agree with you I am totally stoked for the hobbit; I'm re-reading the book now)
One of the few movies I would be willing to go to the theater to watch, jet it won't be in the one in my city... sight.
Alright, I tried to stay out of this but this is the point where I have to jump in.SkullCap said:
If you can point out to me WHERE in this video - or anywhere else - I've "defended" the behavior of Harris and Kelbold, I ask that you please do so; because clearly some clever hacker has altered my work to say something incredibly insensitive that I would never, EVER say.
The only reason I even raised the issue of Columbine is that the film is CLEARLY drawing inspiration from that particular event in concieving the arc of it's main character. My sympathy (such as it is) - or, at least, vicarious empathy - was with the fictional character in a fictional movie whose actions, however heinous, were A.) understanable and B.) "cool-looking" because, again, FICTION. The idea that this somehow equates to me "standing up" for real-life mass-murderers is ridiculous on it's face.
I'm definitely gonna have to agree with [user]MovieBob[/user] here. Whether or not he "needs to grow up" or "get over his issues" is a debate that a lot of people are having right now, as best they can without ever personally knowing the guy. However, saying that Bob is defending the Columbine incident is taking massive leaps of faith.SkullCap said:
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Those guys are talking about getting revenge on people, are they defending the Columbine stuff too? You can say he's acting like a 4 year old, and god knows I've had my moments where I thought Bob was the biggest idiot ever, but saying that he's defending what happened at Columbine is just hyperbole
As the catalyst to this whole runaway train, I'd like to add my last two cents into this, not for the sake of adding more damage to the situation. Rather, just some understanding from all sides of this.MovieBob said:
I myself never truly said or intentionally implied that you were in support of the Columbine killings, Bob. I think the error in understanding comes from that right there, though. When you made the connection to Columbine (however accurate it was) to the fictional character in question and then called the actions of said character "understandable" (or rather that you had admission to partially rooting for this character giving reference to your previously made "Magneto Was Right" video as your reasoning), it's naturally easy for one to construe that as saying Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold's actions were similarly "understandable" in your mind. This probably wouldn't happen to any other reviewer who may have made a similar connection due to the fact that the concept of rooting for vengeance of the oppressed is a common underlying theme in many of your videos.
I've already said more than enough about how avoid future misunderstandings in regard to this subject, so I'll leave it at that. I can't say that all that I said wasn't against you personally since the discussion did seem to center around your personal feelings, Bob. My stand-offish original comment was blunt to make a point, but I can't offer any other defense for it, so I admit to being in the wrong if it was seen as offensive or inappropriate. It was simply my opinion of your opinion.
That's all I have to offer. I hope we all got a little clarification here.
Oh dear! You've quoted Star Trek 5? I guess those words are seared forever in my brain, along with stripper Uhura.Frank_Sinatra_ said:
It does seem odd that all of the best, most wonderful people in the world were born on February 5th. Hope you had a good one, despite the devastating Patriots loss.
Damn, I was expecting to be shit, instantly dismissed it for the style. I mean sometimes its ok but not all the time and not for an action/superhero movie(which I didnt get from the trailers). The irony is when I watch it I'll be watching someones recording XP!
Saw many covers and art from Youngblood and Image comics. Bob thought you where a big Rob Liefeld & Co hater? Do I have you confused with someone else? If that is indeed the case...You just went up 10 points on the Cool-o-meter (well mine at least
)
Huh had you figured for Giants, ya know scrappy underdog story and all that. Sorry they didnt win *shrug* Im a Cowboy fan so Im used to dissapointment.
Wait...Akira? DBZ? That I didnt expect. Actually would like to know what you thought of Akira, seeing as apart from the work of Hayao Miyazaki, I hold it up as one of the finest anime movies of all time.
Lasty : "So in the end was I rooting for the quote unquote "Villian"? (first pic of Spock to say, "its logical", Then the imfamous Magneto pic) Do you really have to ask?" ROFLMAO I remember that episode "Magneto was right", posted a few time sin the comments. Totally behind ya on that one to, long story short if I was a Marvel mutant I'd say "F- humanity they treat me like sh-. Lets go to this Magnus guy who wants to better our kind."
Thats not to say that if when I was in High-School and I got super-powers I'd go looking for revenge. Im a small guy, had to scrap mostly through school, anti-social, liked comic books , cartoons and card games (magic, yu-gi-oh). You can bet I was pushed around. However I always had the examples from comics or shows (King Arthur and the Kights of Justice... Go now! Find it, watch it, and pay attention to the opening credits)So I always wanted to play the hero. Maybe its just me, maybe I just have an old-fashioned attitude.
Saw many covers and art from Youngblood and Image comics. Bob thought you where a big Rob Liefeld & Co hater? Do I have you confused with someone else? If that is indeed the case...You just went up 10 points on the Cool-o-meter (well mine at least
)Huh had you figured for Giants, ya know scrappy underdog story and all that. Sorry they didnt win *shrug* Im a Cowboy fan so Im used to dissapointment.
Wait...Akira? DBZ? That I didnt expect. Actually would like to know what you thought of Akira, seeing as apart from the work of Hayao Miyazaki, I hold it up as one of the finest anime movies of all time.
Lasty : "So in the end was I rooting for the quote unquote "Villian"? (first pic of Spock to say, "its logical", Then the imfamous Magneto pic) Do you really have to ask?" ROFLMAO I remember that episode "Magneto was right", posted a few time sin the comments. Totally behind ya on that one to, long story short if I was a Marvel mutant I'd say "F- humanity they treat me like sh-. Lets go to this Magnus guy who wants to better our kind."
Thats not to say that if when I was in High-School and I got super-powers I'd go looking for revenge. Im a small guy, had to scrap mostly through school, anti-social, liked comic books , cartoons and card games (magic, yu-gi-oh). You can bet I was pushed around. However I always had the examples from comics or shows (King Arthur and the Kights of Justice... Go now! Find it, watch it, and pay attention to the opening credits)So I always wanted to play the hero. Maybe its just me, maybe I just have an old-fashioned attitude.
If I was younger when I was bullied and got super powers I would of abuse them. Would of made the world burn..
I felt the found footage was pretty great idea for this movie, since most of it is from Andrew's camera which allows the audience to experience everything through his perspective. Also, i think it was good that they did not limit it to just his perspective/camera, and it jumped at times to other cameras/perspective of other characters.
During the film, I definitely perceived Andrew as resonating a Magneto type quality in his character. Growing up hurt, distraught, and abused, i found it quite obvious that he would eventually misuse his powers. Unable to control his suppressed emotions, Andrew now has a way to release and retaliate which inevitably leads him to rampage.
There was only one real qualm i had with the film. Why did they have to go cliche and kill off the black guy? I mean come on, I was expecting better than that from this film, so i totally didn't see Steve actually being killed off. Now in retrospect, the filmmaker probably wasn't concerned with the race of the character who dies and i'm probably just erroneously fixating on a movie stereotype. The sole main black character's death didn't jolt me into a state of boycotting the moving or anything crazy like that, it really just made me say aloud "what? really? the black guy dies? oh come on!" and then i went on enjoying the movie. During the beginning of the funeral scene i thought it might have been a tease and some other character may have died instead, and Steve would have just been injured by Andrew's raging. At a point near the end i thought maybe Steve would return, maybe due to the powers having some regenerative capabilities or something.
When i first saw the trailer, it was fairly easy to suspect Andrew would turn dangerous. Hence why i expected the two other characters to team up and fight against the stronger darker power in the end. I certainly wasn't disappointed that the film didn't end they way i guessed. Overall i enjoyed the ending, the entire movie really was pretty awesome to be clear. Much like after watching Drive and immediately wanting to strap my watch to my steering wheel, blare some chill ambient music and just drive; Chronicle sparked a desire to take up spelunking in search of some buried cosmic power.
I actually hope there is a sequel to this, as long as they do it at least as well as this one, with or without (probably better w/o) found footage style. I could totally see it as an origin story for a new comic superhero.
During the film, I definitely perceived Andrew as resonating a Magneto type quality in his character. Growing up hurt, distraught, and abused, i found it quite obvious that he would eventually misuse his powers. Unable to control his suppressed emotions, Andrew now has a way to release and retaliate which inevitably leads him to rampage.
There was only one real qualm i had with the film. Why did they have to go cliche and kill off the black guy? I mean come on, I was expecting better than that from this film, so i totally didn't see Steve actually being killed off. Now in retrospect, the filmmaker probably wasn't concerned with the race of the character who dies and i'm probably just erroneously fixating on a movie stereotype. The sole main black character's death didn't jolt me into a state of boycotting the moving or anything crazy like that, it really just made me say aloud "what? really? the black guy dies? oh come on!" and then i went on enjoying the movie. During the beginning of the funeral scene i thought it might have been a tease and some other character may have died instead, and Steve would have just been injured by Andrew's raging. At a point near the end i thought maybe Steve would return, maybe due to the powers having some regenerative capabilities or something.
When i first saw the trailer, it was fairly easy to suspect Andrew would turn dangerous. Hence why i expected the two other characters to team up and fight against the stronger darker power in the end. I certainly wasn't disappointed that the film didn't end they way i guessed. Overall i enjoyed the ending, the entire movie really was pretty awesome to be clear. Much like after watching Drive and immediately wanting to strap my watch to my steering wheel, blare some chill ambient music and just drive; Chronicle sparked a desire to take up spelunking in search of some buried cosmic power.
I actually hope there is a sequel to this, as long as they do it at least as well as this one, with or without (probably better w/o) found footage style. I could totally see it as an origin story for a new comic superhero.
This. I was bullied all the way to my first year of high school, you know what i did? I said fuck it, I stopped caring, and you know what? it stopped, hell, i went onto being on Homecomming court, do i know why? Nope, but i got over it.TheDrunkNinja said:
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So I think it fits. I don't want to get into a situation where if any black character dies first we view it as a cliche but at the same time I think it is a valid complaint on a meta level.
I have to say though Bob I was really suprised you were even half rooting for Andrew. He was clearly deeply disturbed. Yeah his family life was fucked up but that didn't make me think he had a convincing argument but rather that he needed therapy.
I disagree. For me Magento is always quite sympathetic. Andrew was pitiable but he never made a convinving argument, it was jsut some garbage about being an Apex Predator. I think with Magento there is also the question of "Is he right"? Which there wasn't with Andrew. also for me Magneto is often not a bad guy, he often seems to genuienly beleive that what he has to do si regretable but neccesary.Ghadente said:
I don't know, this is one fot he occasions where I think the Dead Bro Walking is alright. Steve, reminded me of being a lot like me, in that he is kind of insesitive, he mocks people when he shouldn't and soemtimes doesn't think being casually quite devestating. After Drew fucked up his first chance of sex, a lot of the stuff Steve said wasn't helpful at all. Not because he is a bad guy but because he just didn't think.
So I think it fits. I don't want to get into a situation where if any black character dies first we view it as a cliche but at the same time I think it is a valid complaint on a meta level.
I have to say though Bob I was really suprised you were even half rooting for Andrew. He was clearly deeply disturbed. Yeah his family life was fucked up but that didn't make me think he had a convincing argument but rather that he needed therapy.
Bob, you talked about how awesome Josh Trank is for directing the movie but you neglected too mention Max Landis for WRITING IT!! (Who also just posted the hilarious Death and Return of Superman video featuring Elijah Wood, Mandy Moore, and Simon Pegg! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PlwDbSYicM)
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