Well, I may have to go see the Spider Man movies now because I swear the TMNT movie Bob saw was not the thing I saw. In my defense I have disliked everything ever done on TMNT since the original comic, so I was dragged to this movie expecting to be once again proven that the franchise sucks. Instead I actually liked the film (as did my wife who saw it with me, who loves all things TMNT) and many of Bob's comments unfortunately demonstrated severe bias....and an unwillingness to simply view the movie for what it is, rather than imposing a generation of TMNT nostalgia on it.
Let me add some examples:
1. the refined origin story made more sense to me than the original. It got rid of idiotic random chance and made it relevant. yes I know Bob hates it when everything ties in to one another, but it "worked" in this case.
2. Foot Clan still had a Japan connection, Shredder and his lady lackey were still "Japanese" at least in that special comic book way.
3. turtles were still turtles, just more teenage-like "bros" than the goofier "we are specifically targeting ten year olds" feel of prior movies.
4. Shredder's suit was very cool, and worked for me. Also necessary to make him a threat for the decidedly faster, stronger and more impressive moving turtles in the movie.
5. I found no confusion about the origin story, just extra layers of reveal as the movie went along.
6. Splinter was a perfectly decent animation, looked just like he did in the old comics. No freakin' idea what Bob saw wrong with it. None at all.
7. Was the real Shredder added in after fan outcry? No idea, but his appearance and style worked for me.
8. Megan Fox was fine. She did as well as I would expect any female lead in the same role to do, no idea why people love to hate on her so much (and yes I know about her F U comment, and frankly I can appreciate the sentiment).
Anyway.....I still hate everything TMNT, except for the original comic and this movie.
Let me add some examples:
1. the refined origin story made more sense to me than the original. It got rid of idiotic random chance and made it relevant. yes I know Bob hates it when everything ties in to one another, but it "worked" in this case.
2. Foot Clan still had a Japan connection, Shredder and his lady lackey were still "Japanese" at least in that special comic book way.
3. turtles were still turtles, just more teenage-like "bros" than the goofier "we are specifically targeting ten year olds" feel of prior movies.
4. Shredder's suit was very cool, and worked for me. Also necessary to make him a threat for the decidedly faster, stronger and more impressive moving turtles in the movie.
5. I found no confusion about the origin story, just extra layers of reveal as the movie went along.
6. Splinter was a perfectly decent animation, looked just like he did in the old comics. No freakin' idea what Bob saw wrong with it. None at all.
7. Was the real Shredder added in after fan outcry? No idea, but his appearance and style worked for me.
8. Megan Fox was fine. She did as well as I would expect any female lead in the same role to do, no idea why people love to hate on her so much (and yes I know about her F U comment, and frankly I can appreciate the sentiment).
Anyway.....I still hate everything TMNT, except for the original comic and this movie.