Escapist hate towards CoD and Halo?

[Coldster]

That's a million dollar question right there. For CoD, they're online multiplayer fanbase is what most people hate most. Same goes for Halo (especially those fucking 10 year olds). But when you look at them objectively as a game they stand out as magnificient masterpieces. Seriously folks, play CoD4 or black ops and tell me those arn't awesome campiagns. Again, same goes for Halo 1,2, and 3. Sure they have they're flaws like uninteresting characters and the length of the single player mode, and don't even get me started on the numerous multiplayer flaws, but the simplicity of CoD's "shoot people and stay alive" is fun and Halo has a massive amount of game modes that try to appeal to most people (FFA, Team Slayer, Firefight, Forge, etc). Maybe you see this comment as me rambling on about two games you don't like but you have to take in account the fact that THESE FRANCHISES ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL and games are usually successful because they're good!

 

[Caprice0083]

CoD has terrible online gameplay mechanics.
Sure, it looks great and the gunplay is pretty damn good, though guns are supposed to have recoil.
Guns in Black Ops are more like bullet lasers.
More to the point: Kill streaks.
I haven't played Black Ops online that much, but what I have experienced were generally negative.
Sure, first few minutes are fun, then a chopper gunner mow me down at my spawn point like 10 times in a row.
And people not dying when you kill them.
That's really fucking annoying.

And as for Halo... None of them really put that much of an impression on me.
I mean, they're good games, and the Halo theme music is among the best I have ever heard.
I'm just not impressed.

I hate that crap in Black Ops too! Never have played a game where you are killed the very second you respawn!!! And got to empty a clip on certain guns you know are strong (even at point bank range) to kill somebody! BS!

 

[NewYork_Comedian]

Because a lot of us here enjoy singleplayer focused games [hence all the Bioware love around here].

Hell i dont care about Halo at all, but Call of Duty 1 was the first real game i ever played, and the series has a special place in my heart. At least everything up to World at War in the series.

The problem i had with MW2 and Black Ops was that they were now multiplayer focused games which is quite sad. The problem i see is that besides these two missions...


The problem being there is no way this would ever happen in real life and


Which only the part that involves the PT Boat is unique. [and even then only because you have the badass Rolling Stones in the background].

... there has been no real innovation that has come out of the singleplayer apartment that didnt feel like its been done before.

Right now Activison is just riding on the profit of the multiplayer and the fact that people will pay 15 [!] dollars for 5 new maps.

EDIT: Although on the other hand you have one of my favorite levels of all time in United Offensive


And the famous "All Gillied up" level in Call of Duty 4. These two alone more than make up for the sloppiness for the singleplayer in MW2 and Black Ops in my opinion.

 

[ultrachicken]

They never build on anything that they have. Just churn out the same crap with one or two added features at best.

It was slightly less relevant for Halo until that piece of shit about the marines who drop down in those pods that just amounted to a Halo 3 expansion sequel, that earned it full fledged disgust.

The fact that you can't even call the game's protagonists as they're classified (It's in the title!) shows that you don't know what you're talking about.

Halo: ODST.

That took me three seconds to find with google, why would you base your entire reply on something so trivial?

Because it is a monument to how little you paid attention to the game.

 

[Caprice0083]

I hate the all the Fat Nigg3r jokes on Black Ops and Modern Warfare. I don't hear that crap in any game but those. I don't believe everybody playing these games are white rednecks but could have fooled me by the ignorant crap that comes out of some of their mouths. They even insult their own teammates, losers.

 

[CJ1145]

They never build on anything that they have. Just churn out the same crap with one or two added features at best.

It was slightly less relevant for Halo until that piece of shit about the marines who drop down in those pods that just amounted to a Halo 3 expansion sequel, that earned it full fledged disgust.

The fact that you can't even call the game's protagonists as they're classified (It's in the title!) shows that you don't know what you're talking about.

Halo: ODST.

That took me three seconds to find with google, why would you base your entire reply on something so trivial?

Because if I called the newest Call of Duty "The one with sort of darkish missions" people would be able to quite logically presume I probably hadn't even touched the game.

Besides ODST (which, frankly, I still enjoyed very much) all the Halo games I've played have been very fun and entertaining in both single and multi player modes.

Call of Duty, though, has been downhill for me after World at War. It's like Treyarch and IW have just forgotten that the first two games were almost innovative, and have stuck to the formula as if they were made of glue. And as someone who has played all the games, Black Ops is pretty abysmal compared to its predecessors as far as balance goes. And in a twitch-based game like CoD that's saying something.

 

[Coldster]

Lets see. The majority of CoD games have no innovation and a 4 hours story. Multiplayer often tries to take away what was good, and replace it with rehash, but leave the bad. It's also usually exactly the same as the last game, just with a few extra guns.

The people who play CoD have a reputation for being tards. Where that it was only a nasty reputation started by rumor mongers, then I'd personally pay it no heed, but unfortunately it's often proven true the moment one logs into any type of multiplayer match.

It's also heavily overrated, and over-hyped. Two things which generally aren't liked by those who have played games for a while. I think I can say that a large percentage of the escapist forum is made up of those whom indulge in nostalgia.

CoD 1 was excellent, but those that followed where just clones of the first one. CoD: Modern Warfare was great to, but once again, all that followed where clones of that other one. So that's 2 innovative, fun games in the CoD series I can count. But not amazing. Which probably causes a lot of hate to be directed their way as lots of people see them as undeserving of their over-hyped and highly rated status.

As for Halo. Its overhyped and overrated, I've also heard to much about it and just want it to stop. Personally however, I hate it because it tore Bungie away from making a sequel to Oni.

Well I guess it's good that Bungie stoped making them eh? Wait, Microsoft hired 343 industries to start ruining the franchise? NOOOO!

 

[Skorpyo]

Well, considering that most of the people playing CS:S anymore are hardened "pro's", it's really not surprising that you get that feeling. Same goes for Killing Floor; griefers and idiots can't stand to play it because of the sheer difficulty level, so they are usually non-existent.

CoD and Halo, on the other hand, seem to cater to new-comers. Therefore, n00bs abound, and MP is ruined.

 

[Desfox]

People hate Halo and COD because they are currently overrated. And the fanbases can be extremely annoying at times. Every COD fanboy I have met and discussed a new shooter set in modern times repeatedly bombard me with how it is just a sucky COD clone. This is why COD fans are hated. They can't admit COD may no be completely utterly awesome and sent from God. And they claim that every game is just a COD clone but worse(which is ironic when you look at the past 2 COD games).

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Hipster-only forum?

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'Hipster only'? Lol!

I feel like the word 'Hipster' is being massively mis-used these days.

It doesn't describe a minority of organic food eating, jean short wearing 'The XX' fans anymore but more like 'anyone I don't agree with'... same way 'troll' gets flung around in here all the time.

U mad, newfag?

... you almost had me there for a second

 

[Geo Da Sponge]

Well, considering that most of the people playing CS:S anymore are hardened "pro's", it's really not surprising that you get that feeling. Same goes for Killing Floor; griefers and idiots can't stand to play it because of the sheer difficulty level, so they are usually non-existent.

CoD and Halo, on the other hand, seem to cater to new-comers. Therefore, n00bs abound, and MP is ruined.

Since when was making the game approachable to new players a bad thing? Especially when you are implying that it is the inexperienced players themselves who ruin the game.

So what you're saying is this: you don't like the games because they're popular.

 

[Harlemura]

I suck at them. If all you do is join an online game to die a whole lot, it gets pretty dull pretty quick. After that, it just gets frustrating.
That's my reason for disliking them, anyway. I guess I could play the single player, but I just have other things I'd rather be playing.

yes but you suck less and less the more you play. Patience brother.

Well, I could play more. The I would get better, and probably enjoy it more.
Or.
I could go and play something I already enjoy and don't have to waste hours working just to enjoy it.

You see why it's not difficult for me to choose what to play.

 

[godofallu]

I love both CoD and Halo. They are popular games to bash on these forums because this forum is generally for nerds, and Halo and CoD are both games that are considered mainstream.

 

[Jabberwock xeno]

As I said on v:

popular games are popular for a reason.

"Hello.

One thing I cannot stand is people who refuse to try or insult games just because the are popular.

With games, has gotten to the point where these people almost outnumber the fans.

I used to be one of you, until I tried Halo CE back in 2003.

I became the equlivent of a star wars nerd. I read the books, learned the Canon , and discussed the various reasons as they came up, debated the history that was legends with the rest of the universe form, etc.

I laughed at COD, it was a feeble ww2 shooter. Halo 3 became the biggest entertainment release ever in the US, etc.

Long story short, I tried mw, I loved it, I play both.

Anybody mind telling me why you guys won(t try these?"

 

[hecticpicnic]

I like Cod4 i just think think they should just stop making games because they over shadow others much better than them.And they have kinda become a monopoly on the fps market.

EDIT:Oh and i dislike halo because ever one that likes it ,thinks its the best game ever..they really do my brother is one.

That is a massive generalization to make with purely anecdotal evidence. Secondly, you just said that you dislike halo solely because other people like it. That's a very illegitimate reason.

OT: People want to stand out from the crowd, so they choose to rag on popular games. Sometimes there is genuine dislike, but most of it is nullified by the mute button, which no-one seems to have discovered.

I also dislike when people just say this or that is overrated even if it may be good ,there just trolling.Well i should've phrased that better.I couldn't care less for the halo series played 1, 2. and 3 all the way through ,liked the first one t,the second ones online was good and there was no point for a 3rd one, as it was the exact same as the other ones.And reach isn't my type of game.What i should have said was ,I hate when people say its the best game ever(and yes a lot do its there favorite game and its usually people who haven't got a chance to play a lot of games.I know people personally who do this and online you will find plenty of praise.And about generalizing there is no way not to generalize when talking opinion and statistics on a internet forum.I hate when people compare it to other games when its not a good game to compare with.

 

[Skorpyo]

Well, considering that most of the people playing CS:S anymore are hardened "pro's", it's really not surprising that you get that feeling. Same goes for Killing Floor; griefers and idiots can't stand to play it because of the sheer difficulty level, so they are usually non-existent.

CoD and Halo, on the other hand, seem to cater to new-comers. Therefore, n00bs abound, and MP is ruined.

Since when was making the game approachable to new players a bad thing? Especially when you are implying that it is the inexperienced players themselves who ruin the game.

So what you're saying is this: you don't like the games because they're popular.

Hate the games? No. I hate the assholes that make me not want to play them. I actually enjoy the campaigns from CoD and Halo.

 

[Geo Da Sponge]

Well, considering that most of the people playing CS:S anymore are hardened "pro's", it's really not surprising that you get that feeling. Same goes for Killing Floor; griefers and idiots can't stand to play it because of the sheer difficulty level, so they are usually non-existent.

CoD and Halo, on the other hand, seem to cater to new-comers. Therefore, n00bs abound, and MP is ruined.

Since when was making the game approachable to new players a bad thing? Especially when you are implying that it is the inexperienced players themselves who ruin the game.

So what you're saying is this: you don't like the games because they're popular.

Hate the games? No. I hate the assholes that make me not want to play them.

Oh, my bad. Forget I said anything.

 

[Desfox]

@Jabberwock xeno

I don't hate the games. They are really good games. But Halo 3 and Halo Reach with the latest COD games are not the gifts from God that reviewers and fans claim they are. I hate them for their biased and blind views that make no logical sense.

 

[Pandalisk]

I dont hate them, i just prefer Red Orchestra style gameplay in my FPS's.

the early CoD games i adored so much and got me into Military history
and im obsessed with the Halo lore.

But gameplay wise, i dont care for them much.

 

[EcHoFiiVe]

Well I will express my feelings now after 4 pages of replies. I play CoD because I think past the assholes and past the people using things that are blatantly unbalanced the game (CoD4) is a very deep and good game. The one thing I hate hate hate about the community though is the originality singularity that is present in the youtube community of the game. An example of this, go on youtube and type in "twixtor mw2" and you will see 5 pages full of videos with these guys using a plugin to slow down a clip of the guy shooting and reloading the gun.
Another thing I hate about the community is the jargon birthed from these winners. e.
"u mad bro?"
"cool story bro"
"why are you crying?"
Etc. etc.