Expert Says Blaming Videogames for Violence is Racist

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Zelda_Lover26 said:
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Racism? Really? We're going there?

That is stupid.
Huh... It is pretty stupid, isn't it....

And yet.....

Don't get me wrong, considering video games to be a race is pretty stupid (or at least seems that way, cause maybe its not)... and yet, an Expert saying that the people who blame video games for violence might be even stupider....

Ugh, this is like standing on a crumbling stone tower, and you gotta choose between jumping into a tank full of sharks or a cage full of lions...
Stupid is reading the headline and thinking you've read the article.

People seriously need to stop doing that.

People not reading the article are dumbing down Escapist more than consoles are dumbing down PC gaming

Stop it. You're smarter than this, Escapists.
 

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I think some people here missed the point of this in the wording. He's not saying that video games are racist, but that when something violent happens to a white person and they begin to blame it on video games, that's racist.

But all that aside, my thoughts on video game violence leads me to think that one day, every one that blamed video games for everything violent will get before congress, and begin a long-winded speech about how bad video games are, and how they shouldn't exist. And when they are done, they will look into the camera...and instantly make the troll face, and go 'Trololololo'.
 

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There certainly is a double standard in the media. When an Arabic person perpetrates an act of terrorism, everyone jumps on Islam's tits. When a white person commits a violent act of similar magnitude, they immediately attack video games. I guess they'd rather demonize games than Christian Conservativism.
Roughly right, but I think it's more a case of:

"Well I know our culture is all right since I grew up in it and I'm fine, if there is evil in our society then it must have been corrupted by an outside influence"

Everything that is familiar is given a free pass. If your brother killed a man, you wouldn't say it is because your brother is bad, but because of circumstance. Something made him go crazy.

See Muslims in Afghanistan are considered much more foreign than Norwegians, and all most people ever hear about them is how weird they are so when mass murderers come from there they automatically assume it is something intrinsic to their culture.

But when their neighbour turns evil, who had the same upbringing as them, they can't consider their own upbringing as a factor so they search for alien factors.

Video games are alien, they are made by what SEEM like a weird underclass of geeks and it has a lot off connections with Japan, another "weird" country. Last time the western media looked at a killing spree in Japan they focused on the essential elements of Japanese life to find blame.

The factors that lead people to do these terrorist-attack like Brevik or Al Qaeda are more complex and can't be pinned down to broad cultural elements or popular but less than mainstream activities. Most likely with all it is a combination of severe but unacknowledged issues.

But most importantly is it takes a certain sick/evil mind. Brevik is clearly very twisted, and Al Qaeda the twistedness comes from the leaders who corrupt their religion to serve their political cause. It's interesting that Al Qaeda has not been able to "infect" other islamic populations outside the Middle East, the most they can do is corrupt individuals (by distorting their issues into theological issues) not export the ideology wholesale, like Russia did with Communism.
 

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'Kay, so, this "expert" starts his "expert" analysis by almost immediately whipping out the race card. Sigh.

Okay, so, yeah, blaming everything on videogames is dumb, but so is making unfounded accusations of racism.
 

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RDubayoo said:
'Kay, so, this "expert" starts his "expert" analysis by almost immediately whipping out the race card. Sigh.

Okay, so, yeah, blaming everything on videogames is dumb, but so is making unfounded accusations of racism.
How is the accusation unfounded?
 

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It's bad parenting, America the sooner you accept this fact the sooner this world will be a better place to live.
 

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Nice to see another one opposing the "GAYMZ ARRR VIOLEEEENT" bullshit, sadly his argument is invalid due to the racism "logic".

Also, the terrorist traitor didn't use MW2 to train. He used a fake ID to attend counter-terrorist drills in Minsk down in Belarus.
 

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is it me or are we getting more supporters now? (or maybe that the anti-video game twats are shutting up so we can hear em)

cause damn, he made some good points in our favor, sorry just not used to 'video games AREN'T turning your kids into psycho killers'
 

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Cid SilverWing said:
Nice to see another one opposing the "GAYMZ ARRR VIOLEEEENT" bullshit, sadly his argument is invalid due to the racism "logic".

Also, the terrorist traitor didn't use MW2 to train. He used a fake ID to attend counter-terrorist drills in Minsk down in Belarus.
Why does explaining that one of the factors behind the scapegoating video games as a cause of random mass violence lies in racism and ignorance invalidate his argument? What is it that you find illogical?
 

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I think this guy pulled the racism card simply to get attention to the rest of his argument. Other than the racism part, he was pretty much spot-on.
 

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He makes a valid point I've never once heard video games brought up whenever a minority goes all chicken coop on people.
If it is pretty thin argument though
 

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He makes a lot of good points, the least of which is the one in the title of the article.

I understand that he needs to say, "That's racist," in order to get the mainstream media to publish his good points, but that idea is the worst point he made in his analysis.
 

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I agree with Mr.Ferguson on his findings and how violent media doesn't necessarily make a person violent, but I do think he has gotten his definition of words mixed up. Discrimination, ignorance, bigotry and generalization are all words that would fit what he means. Race has nothing to do with video games.
 

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Valkyrie101 said:
I have seen video games blamed for cases of violence involving blacks, actually. No, I don't think it's the case.
You have? Got a link or three to share?
 

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Jesus, people here are really fucking dense at time. His point wasn't that gamers are a race or that white people are being discriminated against, he's saying that nobody is surprised or blames video games when this sort of thing happens at a minority-dominated school. What he means is that people think "No way a good white boy would do something like that on his own, something else has to be at fault!" instead of admitting that their badly raised children growing up in a hostile environment can break just as easily as everybody else's. That's the racism at work here.
 

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Its a dumb ass thing to say...and it does not fit at all in the whole violent video games discussion (which has dried up lately I mean the same people will still stick to their guns like the dude who went after gta)
I mean if you want to go into a debate about how value of life depends on where you live
and how it can be racially motivated that's one thing..but it just seems weird to bring it up here
and besides everybody uses scapegoats if its not video games its who you hang out with, what was your political party what was your religion what were your parents like?
scapegoating is universal
 

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A lot of people posting in this thread seem to think racism means "I HATE EVERYONE WHO LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN ME!!!111one" Either that or they just read the word racism and then immediately went with their knee jerk "OMG someone said racism they must be a PC sissy!" reaction.

That's not what it means. Assuming someone's more inclined towards criminal behavior just because they're a certain race is racism. Even if it's based on some actual experience it's still racism because there's no way you could possibly have had a large enough sample of experiences for a real empirical conclusion. Assuming that it's just because they're black when black people kill people but assuming it must be video games when white people kill people is also racism in the exact same way.
 

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RDubayoo said:
Okay, so, yeah, blaming everything on videogames is dumb, but so is making unfounded accusations of racism.
'Unfounded' implies no evidence or reasoning. If I called you a racist right now, that would be an unfounded accusation.

His accusation is pretty founded actually. Did you read the article?
 

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EverythingIncredible said:
Racism? Really? We're going there?

That is stupid.
A clinical psychologist doesn't know the difference between racism and prejudice? Sigh.