Fable III Dev Lobs a Few Word Bombs at the Haters

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Duskflamer

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Azaraxzealot said:
Now if you invested a good amount of money into the product and you feel it pissed all over you? that's different, but don't go slandering the game just because everyone else is doing it.
So the fact that everyone is echoing the opinion that Fable 3 wasn't a good game is because everyone's just trying to copy what each other is saying and is not, nay, cannot possible be because...most people here think Fable 3 wasn't a good game?

This isn't some small time high school project or a no-advertising indie title. Fable 3 was hyped for a long time as being a game so good nobody would want to miss. If the end result is a lot of people who wished they had missed it, you can't go saying that they're just following the leader on complaining about it.
 

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Duskflamer said:
Azaraxzealot said:
Now if you invested a good amount of money into the product and you feel it pissed all over you? that's different, but don't go slandering the game just because everyone else is doing it.
So the fact that everyone is echoing the opinion that Fable 3 wasn't a good game is because everyone's just trying to copy what each other is saying and is not, nay, cannot possible be because...most people here think Fable 3 wasn't a good game?

This isn't some small time high school project or a no-advertising indie title. Fable 3 was hyped for a long time as being a game so good nobody would want to miss. If the end result is a lot of people who wished they had missed it, you can't go saying that they're just following the leader on complaining about it.
i think at this point people should simply expect that Molyneux will exaggerate his game an extreme and we should take his comments with a grain of salt.

plus, i think it's also up to the people to decide how they react to hype machines. if they buy into it and are disappointed, then that's their prerogative, is it not? i'm going to take Lionhead's side on this. not to be different, but because fable has never disappointed me.
 

lacktheknack

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Reading these responses, I'm filled with the urge to just ask "U mad?"

Urge resisted, his opinion is just as valid of any of yours. I don't really care, no demo = no buy. End of, the only exception being if you sell it for three dollars or less.
 

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Fable III isn't Lord of the Rings? Well ho-ly-sh------t! I never would a guessed so!

Sorry, but your story part of your series needs serious work to be anywhere close to worth mentioning next to Lord of the Rings. Stick with Good Night Moon or something along those lines.

As for the "co-op RPG" thing, uh, what of Fable I? What about Fable II? Oh, so now because they put a little more focus on some secondary aspect, now Fable III is a "co-op RPG?" How does that work, and how does that translate to anything besides "Well instead of making the game a good experience with just one player, we thought we'd offer the chance to have a mediocre one with two!"
 

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Its supposed to be comedic? So choosing to kill either the love of your life, or several random strangers within the first five minutes is considered light hearted? What ****** up world do you live in where that is a humor based narrative?

It seems for all its good points, Fable 3 ran into that little identity crisis problem in that, as much as I love the games, they dont know what they want to be. A sort of sims game, or aforementioned LotR epic.
 

mjc0961

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Eh. He wasn't as bad as Warren Spector ranting about Epic Mickey was, but he still needs to remember that him saying his game is fun doesn't magically make it fun for people who didn't enjoy it.
 

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actually I think fable 1 was better than fable 3 sorry
now we just need this guy to claim Im not playing the game the "right way"
 

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pwahahAHHAHAH. Is this guy serious?

I'm usually not so callous, but this is astoundingly hilarious. It's not even a shades of grey affair; Fable 3's combat system was criticized all across the board. And now the guy wants freaking -awards- for sound, I just...what is this I don't even..

BTW, Fable 3 on the PC isn't doing so hot right now on the review-front. And what is this 'cooperative rpg' thing and *gasp* and... *gasp*, ok, I'm done. I'm done.
 

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Mike West said:
"Generally what happens when there's any information about Fable or about Peter Molyneux, you get a complete black and white - pardon the pun - split of forum replies. Half of the people, whatever it's about - if Peter has made the most sensible comment about games development ever - just spout obscenities and terrible, ridiculous things.

People saying the story wasn't very good was unfair. It's an interesting situation of you gather people together and then defeating the main bad guy. It's a pretty good story and it's pretty fun.

"It's a frustrating situation to be in because we make good games, but people expect something that no one else is doing. We're making a co-operative role-playing game - there aren't any co-operative role-playing games out there, we're the only one.

[Fable III is] a different type of game: it's more of a fun, comedic TV show than a serious Lord of the Rings film. I think a lot of people that play it think it's a Lord of the Rings - and it isn't.

"I'm slightly disappointed we haven't won any audio awards to be honest, because our music's great, our vocal talent's great - and then you'll see a standard shooter get an audio award. I just think that's because they're more popular than us."

"We didn't want to make it feel like a port. The main thing was to completely redo the control system. It's a modal system now where you switch between modes and the mouse buttons do different things. The second big change is the engine, with the high resolution and the 3D as well. Fable and Albion have never looked better for anyone on any machine. The Xbox guys got it first, but the PC guys are going to have a much better version.

"This is definitely the best Fable PC - it's much better than Fable 1
Oh goodie! I love it when a dev needs a good knock down cut his ego down to size.

1st. Fable is a mediocre game. EOS.

The story is terrible standard mediocre Fantasy shit straight out of a box. The hero feels more on rails then that it may be a good idea. Even more of the black has been stripped from the story, making evil more a topical choice. The villain is trite and cliche, and we've seen way worse. The constant retconing of the series from 'heroes are made' to 'heroes are born' is annoying, since it takes away the idea that the only thing that stops people from being at your level is that your a better fighter then them. Instead, it gives the player a plot immunity.

At a certain level, you may win against EVERY OPPONENT SENT AT YOU, and then you magically fall over, 'exhausted'

One last thing,
I didn't get the option to kill certain people who I really wanted to.

COmbat: Glad to see your only skill is whining loudly Mike, I suggest you shut the hell up, and go back to designing something that isn't complete shit. Combat has lost what little it had left, and a sufficiently high magic or melee skill ends the game. The cool factor of items has been replaced by making the only weapons available 'legendary' as opposed to cool looking, one of the things I enjoyed in fable two.

The lack of death makes it so the player doesn't even have to think, but just mash buttons. I question the lack of a health bar, but combined with no reason to avoid death other then to get a achievement. In fact, this removes the importance of carrying health potions altogether, and I just sold everything sans weapons I wanted to possibly use.

Cosmetic changes: The changing from menu to room was something I enjoyed. Briefly. Then I heard the butler's incessant whining about new stuff to buy got to me. In fact, I enjoyed when you got into your room during the 'eeeevil sequence' and your hideout was covered in shadow gunk. Nice touch your coworkers who actually did their jobs put on. I only wish the butler had been taken with it when I got back from black poo land.
 

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Oh geez, here we go.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_iYrhopY-rI4/SlO1UPd1qZI/AAAAAAAAGK8/ksbFcaXsGkk/s200/Wahmbulance.jpg
 

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Fable 2 was OK. The end of the game just flat out sucked though.

Fable 3 was..OK i guess. Nothing really changed from the second game apart from the story. Oh, and the being a king shit was so damn stupid. Was not fun having to buy out all the damn shops just so you can have enough money to save people. The end fight was stupid as well. But I didn't buy it, someone else did. So I didn't waste my money. They did. I just wasted my life.
 

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Not my fault you don't know how to present a game, Mike. Nor is it my fault you don't understand what makes a good story in a video game. Stop acting like the worldwide gaming community is picking on you and start to accept criticism like an adult.
 

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Greg Tito said:
"This is definitely the best Fable PC - it's much better than Fable 1," West said.

Well, seeing as there was no PC version of the second game, that's a pretty short list.

Source: Eurogamer [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-17-making-a-better-fable-iii-for-pc-interview]



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No, THIS is the best version of Fable on PC :D

I used to love this game haha...it had risque humour when i was a young 'un
 

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I loved Fable 3 and thought it was great. And I totally agree with the audio part, John Cleese, Stephen Fry and Simon Pegg were awesome and Michael Fassbender is positively delicious. The music was also pretty good. Though I really love the dress up and house decorating parts a lot, as well as all the exploration, I can see where the combat (where some people might think the game should really be focused on) isn't the best.

Also, give me another game where I can dress up as a purple chicken and kick chickens to death. Or where I can collect STDs. Or be a Queen with a beard. Or be insulted by random gnomes. It's the little things that make me like Fable III.
 

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I'm aware of how Fable works, having owned all of them. I know its not Lord of the Rings, but I still expect it to be Fable.

Yeah, the story was ok. Gathering characters is cool, but when it's more of a situation of "Oh there you are, wanna join?" before much character development, it's kind of boring. I prefered the heroes in Fable 2.
 

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Zero_ctrl said:
Andaxay said:
Whilst I agree on vocal talent (even if the voice of the main female character was bland and flat) and music, I disagree on story. It was dull, predictable and unimaginative. I loved Fable II, but the same can't be said for III, it didn't suck me in, I didn't really like the characters and I traded it in because I couldn't bring myself to finish it.

Co-op was miles better than in Fable II, though.
Huh, that's about the same story as me.
I just couldn't get as much play out of it as Fable II.
I played through Fable II about four times. I almost played through Fable III twice, but I never finished both times.
Lol, finished Fable 2 only 4 times? I've completed it... I think 39 times now. double that many characters made. I FAR prefer Fable 1 & 2 over "3". If anything Fable 3 is a glorified expansion pack. And the "Weapon Morphing" was NOT morphing, it was leveling. A damn weapon leveling system. Not at all what was said.
 

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Wow, he's really taking this hard isn't he?
I haven't played so I cant say anything fair or honest, but if the criticism is fair (which it sounds like it is) he should probably not just throw in the bottle and say "YOU JUST DON'T APPRECIATE MY GENIUS!" and use it as a starting point to make his next project better :p

Palademon said:
I'm aware of how Fable works, having owned all of them. I know its not Lord of the Rings, but I still expect it to be Fable.
Also, you win sir
 

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Actually, Fable III is not just a game. It's a brilliant study in good and evil!

In order to be truly good in the game, and get the good ending, you have to sink massive hours grinding for gold to save a bunch of obnoxious villagers that constantly provoke you into killing them with their terrible voices. The game is provoking you to be evil at every turn, and it takes real gumption to save all the people and be a good person at the end of the game. How far are you willing to go to be a hero?

The problem is video games are supposed to be fun. It should be possible to be a hero without everyone dying, and without wasting your time.