Fans Protest Tera's Censorship

Dogstile

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Gottesstrafe said:
DVS BSTrD said:
If the European mainstream has such an aversion to blood, it's no wonder your women don't save.

Okay show of hands: Who else thought this would be related to the dress-code?
Ditto. Especially given the stereotype that the English are in denial over the existence of anything even remotely sexual.
Which I never understood, considering how every conversation I overhear involves sex in some form.

Also *raises hand*
 

Elate

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Rouzeki said:
I can tolerate them though.. -cough- I just go out of my way to PK them when I can, infamy be damned. They remind me of the Asura in GW, I hate them too, but at least the fit the feel of the game better... Anet just did their job to well and made them arrogant and completely unlikable.

In Tera it just feels like someones made all these wonderful and well thought out character designs for the different races, and then management went "IT NEEDS MORE CUTE, LOLLIS ARE CUTE, ANIMALS ARE CUTE. MAKE THEM" And they had to shoe horn them in.
 

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Elate said:
Rouzeki said:
I can tolerate them though.. -cough- I just go out of my way to PK them when I can, infamy be damned. They remind me of the Asura in GW, I hate them too, but at least the fit the feel of the game better... Anet just did their job to well and made them arrogant and completely unlikable.

In Tera it just feels like someones made all these wonderful and well thought out character designs for the different races, and then management went "IT NEEDS MORE CUTE, LOLLIS ARE CUTE, ANIMALS ARE CUTE. MAKE THEM" And they had to shoe horn them in.
That must be why the have a capital, a back story, and are the creators of another playable race...because they were "shoe horned" in.

You can dislike them, that's your personal choice.
But they were far from an afterthought.

And while I'm thinking to hard about this: I really don't see how ANYTHING can be out of place in a game where the world is literally the dream of two gods, and everyone that's part of the world KNOWS it.

I mean come on, we've all had more then a few weird dreams.
Animal girls that create a race of sentient anthropomorphic animal males is hardly the weirdest thing you could find in a dream.
 

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Here you go for the people who support freedom of speech, expression, artistic view, and want to play tera as the original creators wanted it to be seen.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.372873-Korean-TERA-uncensored-Armor-skin-mods#14392353
 

Therumancer

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I have to say that I kind of thought people moved beyond this. Truthfully it should be a bigger deal, especially in Europe, after all the garbage through the years with attempts to censor violence. Really, you'd expect the people of europe to have a better handle on the goverment after that whole "Video Nasties" fiasco back in the 1980s.

Of course then again given that European populations generally aren't armed and all anyone can really do is QQ if the govermnt doesn't listen (the possibility of armed insurrection is almost non-existant, making assemblies little more than a symbolic gesture) it might not be so surprising after all. Going after what's left of free speech and expression again, starting with things like this isn't a shock.

But then again I can't criticize too badly, I think the goverment in the US sort of realized the growing dangers if groups like "Occupy Wall Street" (whom they want to ignore) decided to engage in armed actions against the financiers that have invoked their ire... which can be applied to a lot of things. With dis-satisfaction increasing on a lot of levels the idea of all the large-scale demonstrations staying peaceful for the long term are low, it won't happen tomorrow of course, but eventually your going to start seeing people showing up with guns instead of folding chairs to demand satisfaction.... which isn't a bad thing, since that kind of large scale act is exactly why we have the right to begin with (ie to leverage change when it happens on a large enough scale).

Right now Obama is attempting to ban the right to bear arms in the US. He's not just doing it internally, but going to the UN to support the resolution there to make it illegal for civilians to arm themselves anywhere, so he can then try and force the issue domestically by claiming the US has to comply with UN policy. How that will end remains to be seen, but the very fact that he's making the effort means he seems to think he has some chance of pulling it off, and given that we keep right on letting things like this happen, chances are the US will be in the same basic boat before too long. Of course there is a decent chance I'll be dead before it happens, because that's one right I'm going to probably die trying to defend (some might say good riddance... but well, I suspect you'll have a differant opinion down the road).

Ah well, all rambling aside, I find the whole situation absolutly absurd.

The odds of me ever playing TERA Online just hit zero (which is meaningful since I try just about all MMOs at one time or another) since I generally do not support censorship. Whether the US version is censored or not, the bottom line is that if they sell out like that they shouldn't get any money at all. For those thinking about playing in Europe, I recommend just passing on it, a work around and paying them for the product anyway isn't going to discourage the behavior. Right now they figure they will benefit more by working with the goverment than paying the money to fight back, and they need to be shown that isn't the case.
 

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So a game tries to get a wider age rating by reducing objectionable content that ultimately has zero gameplay impact, and this is a gross injustice of the highest treachery? Grow the fuck up, gamers. Seriously. The petition note in the newspost implied that they'd killed the players' dogs or kidnapped their mums - this isn't even a small deal.
 

Radoh

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Well this seemed a natural progression of logical understanding to me.
You've got the darn near naked ladies, are you really going to take that and have them spilling blood all over the place?
I mean sure, some people may get into that sort of thing, but I doubt that could be a target demographic.

Also
"We, as members of the Tera community, feel that this time you have crossed the line," reads the petition's statement, which is titled "Bring Blood Back to Tera EU!". "The community was patient for a very, very long time with your incompetence and childish games. You have played with the boundries [sic] of how much the community can take. Count in all the false information that was given to us."
Am I missing something? The Betas are playing 'the final straw' card?
This game hasn't been available for that long has it?
 

Therumancer

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Baneat said:
So a game tries to get a wider age rating by reducing objectionable content that ultimately has zero gameplay impact, and this is a gross injustice of the highest treachery? Grow the fuck up, gamers. Seriously. The petition note in the newspost implied that they'd killed the players' dogs or kidnapped their mums - this isn't even a small deal.
Sometimes it's the little things that matter more than the big things. Right now we're involved in another major battle over content censorship, and the industry surrendering even an inch for purposes of "ratings" is a bad thing as it encourages the goverment to push more seeing that they got a reaction, and the game companies to figure they might as well go along with the goverment if the fans don't seem to be objecting.

During the 1980s the UK had this big thing where the goverment pushed to ban horror movies on the merits of blood, violence, etc... compiling a list of "Video Nasties" (yes that was the actual term, and if you search for it under that term you'll find an article on Wikipedia about it along with a list of banned movies). This is how that kind of thing gets started. While they eventually DID do away with the whole "Video Nasties" ban, it still blew chips at the time.

Right now the problem is more insidious since the goverment is not just banning finished products but trying to force changes on them for release, which is arguably even worse, since the goverment should not be dictating to creators. If the guys who make a game put the blood there, they did it for a reason, and it should be left intact.
 

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Oh, how we've grown as an industry. Are people seriously complaining about changes made to a game that hasn't been released already? How entitled have consumers become that they not only complain about the product, but also demand that studios will create the product as they see fit. This is very stifling for innovation.
 

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RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
So lemme get this straight. 9 year old girls in their underpants is okay but the blood had to go? 9 year old girls in fox ears and underpants but its the blood that is the issue. REALLY!? This is the one time not a single fuck was given about sex in video games?
I was going to make a comment like this.

But then I saw yours.

Couldn't agree more.
 

Aisaku

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How is this relevant in this day and age? If they were going to censor I'd rather have tasteful clothes.
 

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ThunderCavalier said:
RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
So lemme get this straight. 9 year old girls in their underpants is okay but the blood had to go? 9 year old girls in fox ears and underpants but its the blood that is the issue. REALLY!? This is the one time not a single fuck was given about sex in video games?
I was going to make a comment like this.

But then I saw yours.

Couldn't agree more.
God guys, the fact they look like little girls is a complete accident. Anyone who feels like that is in fact a reverse pedophile. That's it. End of story
/sarcasm
 

ZexionSephiroth

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Blood censorship? That's what they want more of... and not less of mind you... Blood?

Okay, let's think a little. The game has just about every female forced into stripper gear, and each and every female has animations that look like they are trying to turn someone on...

...And yet There's an almost child like race that is all female and does those same animation routines, with only mildly less perverted clothing.

Seriously, are we being trolled? Where's the moral guardians I think are going to pounce any moment and say "you're all sick!"... No-where? Huh...

Still, I'm not going to play it. The only furry races are the aforementioned child-likes and another that might as well be the cast of Whinie the pooh:Taxidermy version. neither of which I'm comfortable playing. (Demented little Ewok wannabes.)

And since I'm still pissed at the last MMO I played, I think I'd rather go back to Skyrim and play my Khajit. Maybe roast some mudcrabs more menacing than the characters on Tera.

(P.S. No offense intended, at least not any more than cynicism would dictate. That, and someone probably had to say it.)
 

zefiris

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I did. Imagine my surprise to see it was something much more minor.
Typical american thinking. "It's minor for us, so it's actually minor! But thing we freak out about for no reason totally make sense, that'd be major! BEcause only american sentiments matter!!1111 Durrrrrr"

The small removal of blood isn't exactly a problem. Now they just need to remove the underage pant lack, and add proper clothing for female characters (maybe as free costumes so the nerds can keep playing half-naked characters) and the game might be playable.
 

lacktheknack

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I don't understand what I'm reading! I feel like I've fallen into a parallel universe of WTFery!
 

Murmillos

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RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
So lemme get this straight. 9 year old girls in their underpants is okay but the blood had to go? 9 year old girls in fox ears and underpants but its the blood that is the issue. REALLY!? This is the one time not a single fuck was given about sex in video games?
You sound American...

Thats EU. You'll see more skin (naturally nude - not LEWD adults, teens and even "children") in films and TV far more then you'll seen blood and violence -- which you almost never see any off anyways.

The US on the other hand -- the more bloodshed, gore, bullets and violence the better. But god for bit a single tit shows up with out the "collective media" flipping a shit that they created a porn flick, or porn simulator (for games) and have morally corrupted said children for their remainders of their lives, forever to live on but as mindless vagrants endlessly masturbating to SEARS catalogs.
 

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To be honest, when I saw this, I laughed because I thought "oh hey, they are putting realistic clothes on the eye candy, and the fans are getting mad? THIS WILL BE GREAT!" but was disappointed when I saw that it was about the blood =/

Why can't they just add a button that adds/removes blood from the game? Current fans get their Dead Alive amounts, and childrens can get their tiny amounts. Everyone wins!
Jadak said:
To be fair, those girls look at least 12.
Thank you sir for the lolsiest comment I have seen all day xD