Considering I don't own a console and thus have no stake in this battle (yet), I find it pretty hilarious as well.John Funk said:It's almost entertaining to watch LulzSec so openly defy organizations that are much bigger with much heavier political clout in a high-tech version of David & Goliath...
You can bet that when they do get caught, they will whine about the injustice of it all. And then wonder why they have to wear kevlar vests when they are being transported.John Funk said:It's almost entertaining to watch LulzSec so openly defy organizations that are much bigger with much heavier political clout in a high-tech version of David & Goliath, but I can't help but see this as kind of bull-baiting. You can only taunt a bull so much before you get the horns.
That wouldn't be the FBI's jurisdiction, but they would give the info to the CIA to deal with it.Maxman3002 said:Just out of interest, can the FBI arrest these guys if their not American citizens living in America?
No, the FBI has no jurisdiction outside the United States. They could ask for extradition in certain cases, but it is unlikely to be granted unless the charges against the suspect amount to a serious criminal offense in their home country. And in the case of countries like China with whom the US has no extradition treaties, then there is very little the FBI can do. legally, at least.Maxman3002 said:Just out of interest, can the FBI arrest these guys if their not American citizens living in America?
If they were a bunch of Chinese tech wizz's for example then wouldnt they need to go through politial and legal channels for ages?
O.P: Lulzsec seem to be annoying a lot of big companies and theres no way this can end well, theres only 2 outcomes really
1. Lulzsec get found and arrested eventually
or 2. Lulzsec distroy the internet
It doesnt look like their going to stop untill either they or the internet are gone
Hacking is considered an act of war, so the military would go after them if they were in a different countryMaxman3002 said:Just out of interest, can the FBI arrest these guys if their not American citizens living in America?
If they were a bunch of Chinese tech wizz's for example then wouldnt they need to go through politial and legal channels for ages?
O.P: Lulzsec seem to be annoying a lot of big companies and theres no way this can end well, theres only 2 outcomes really
1. Lulzsec get found and arrested eventually
or 2. Lulzsec distroy the internet
It doesnt look like their going to stop untill either they or the internet are gone
This, several times this. Corporations, not just in the US, but over here in Europe too (though to a lesser extent - yay better commercial/corporate law!), think they can get away with anything, and treat all of us like dirt, and as Sony have shown, expect people to trust them with their bank details, addresses, etc, when they have done nothing to earn that trust.rembrandtqeinstein said:Seriously I hope these kids (and they are kids) prove once and for all how utterly incompetent our government and corporate institutions are. Yet these same institutions claim the right to rule over and control us ordinary citizens "for our own good" and mercilessly punish anyone who doesn't toe the line.
As far as I'm concernt Lulzsec =
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I laughed at that thank you, but I like the idea of destroying their hands completely then they will never be able to hack againTrifixion said:Apropos punishment for hackers:
1. Bring them into an interrogation room.
2. Tie them to a chair.
3. Smash one of their kneecaps with a sledgehammer.
4. When they scream in pain as a result of being smashed in the kneecap with a sledgehammer, say to them, "Hey, don't blame me, I'm just proving a point about how vulnerable the human knees are."
5. Repeat step 4 with varying body part targets until no longer funny. This may take a while.
This is the real threat that many are ignoring. The legislative response to this garbage will be internet regulation and control to the point of internet death. The people cheering Lulzsec or Anonymous on really need to account for the ultimate consequences of these hacks.Maxman3002 said:there's only 2 outcomes really
1. Lulzsec get found and arrested eventually
or 2. Lulzsec destroy the internet
It doesn't look like their going to stop until either they or the internet are gone
Haha!artanis_neravar said:Hacking is considered an act of war, so the military would go after them if they were in a different countryMaxman3002 said:Just out of interest, can the FBI arrest these guys if their not American citizens living in America?
If they were a bunch of Chinese tech wizz's for example then wouldnt they need to go through politial and legal channels for ages?
O.P: Lulzsec seem to be annoying a lot of big companies and theres no way this can end well, theres only 2 outcomes really
1. Lulzsec get found and arrested eventually
or 2. Lulzsec distroy the internet
It doesnt look like their going to stop untill either they or the internet are gone