Wow, truly my heart cries out for the poor mens who can't enter women's subway cars/restrooms/locker rooms/etc. How long will this misandrist outrage go unchecked? T.TBuretsu said:
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Actually, sexual assault and/or harassment is very much a problem in New York [http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/19/sexual-harassment-is-no-1-quality-of-life-offense-on-subways-police-say/] subways.RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
Jesus Christ, there's a section on Newgrounds entirely dedicated to facepunch games. The fact that THIS one got taken off the site just supports the viewpoint of "People are only defending her because she's a feminist".
He's not even doing it because of her viewpoint, for fuck's sake. He's doing it because he believes that she's scamming people with her kickstarter project. The fact that she happens to be a woman doesn't make him a misogynist like so many people seem to be convinced of.
He's not even doing it because of her viewpoint, for fuck's sake. He's doing it because he believes that she's scamming people with her kickstarter project. The fact that she happens to be a woman doesn't make him a misogynist like so many people seem to be convinced of.
Here's his Twitter. [http://twitter.com/Bendilin]IronicBeet said:
(Also, this guy is a massive piece of work outside of making vidya gaems about beating women. Google "bendilin" or "losttrap" and see what comes up.)
Gordon being a mute (either actually or due to creative licence) doesn't tell me anything of what kind of person he is. The point is you cannot critique a cipher type character as being sexist or not sexist, they are by definition neutral on all things. There is no way Gordon or Chell could be sexist, there is nothing about their characters anyway.Kahunaburger said:Gordon Freeman is a man of few wordsTreblaine said:
(You're confusing a character with a character with a defined personality. Many of the most iconic characters in video games are ciphers, Gordon Freeman and Chell included.)
And if you want to convince me that your continued use of the term "segregation" is not appropriation, you're going to have to do a little better than this:
Japan is trying to create a safe space for women so they can ride the subway without getting sexually assaulted. It's analogous to a restroom or a locker room. It's not remotely analogous to America's Jim Crow South.Treblaine said:
I don't have to convince you it's not appropriation any more than I have to convince a creationist to accept evolution. Evolution is still a real natural process, Segregation is still not an appropriation specifically from Civil Rights era deep south, though it is a very good example of why segregation is bad. Your dogged refusal to accept something adds nothing to the truth of the matter.
Segregated public transport is not analogous to a changing room or group shower segregated by sex, as no matter how much restraint a man shows, most women will be extremely uncomfortable getting naked in front of men, even the most gentlemanly of men.
Men and Women should be able to share the same public spaces - any public space - without the fear of molestation without consequence. It is simple, if everyone who molests people on trains is consistently detected, reported, arrested and prosecuted the problem will quickly go away. Why should women have to be separated from men to protect them-self from abuse, just enforce the laws on the book, introduce Samaritan laws, Japan is an advanced country that can keep these minority of perverts off the whole train network.
It's not a slippery slope but a matter of principal, the same principal that applies to train applies to parks, movie theatres and games arcades.
Should have made Sean Connery the character slapping the feminist. Seriously, Sean Connery is the only mother****er who can hit a woman and still be the heroic character. Regardless, I think games about smacking around hated persons is in bad taste regardless. Bugs Bunny style antics is one thing, but the game goes too far.
Besides, if satire was the goal why not have busty girls break into her house to steal the kickstarter money and return it to the donors?
Besides, if satire was the goal why not have busty girls break into her house to steal the kickstarter money and return it to the donors?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separate_but_equalBuretsu said:
Yeah, you just used a direct quote from the Supreme Court's justification of Jim Crow laws.
I always found it weird that in UK school curriculum history GCSE we spend more time studying the US Civil Rights struggle than many US curriculum.
Are you from Japan? What difference do you think it would make if you were? I don't think it makes a damn bit of difference. I don't have to live in Iran to know it is wrong to execute people just for being homosexual.Kahunaburger said:
So, let me just run this by you again.
Segregating black people in public transport, that's racist right, prejudicial treatment of an entire race.
Segregating, "middle eastern looking" people in public transport, that's also racist, and wrong. Even though a minority of people from middle east have committed serious crimes (suicide bombings) on public transport, the important thing is that it is fundamentally wrong to persecute an entire group for what a minority does.
Segregating men in public transport... is not sexist or not misandry... or if it is sexist it's acceptable sexism. Yeah, because something-something patriarchy, blah blah blah.
Most men are not abusive molesters. Just like most Muslims are not suicide bombers. Segregation such as this is fundamentally unjust.
Those statistics measure the number of sexual assaults recorded by police. Don't confuse those for the actual incidence of rape, which is drastically underreported to varying degrees in most countries.Treblaine said:
Note how Egypt is on the very bottom of that list, even though it's been well-documented how serious the issue of sexual violence still is in that country.
Yes, they are reported rates FOR EACH COUNTRY! They work for purpose of comparison.cobra_ky said:
The United States would need to have over 2500% higher reporting incidence relative to Japan to have the same incidence. That is an outlandish claim that you need evidence to back up. Why would Japan have such a higher incidence of rapes going unreported?
What you are basically saying is because every rape cannot be detected, then no comparisons can be made. No. Comparisons can be made.
Also, proof that Egypt must have a higher incidence of rape that is relevant to Japan. Are you just making assumptions about Egypt?
Gee, I wonder why Japan doesn't take all this really good advice from random Westerners on the internet who have never set foot in their country. What could they possibly know about this issue that random Westerners don't? [small]Quite a bit. Seriously, you should look up some actual Japanese sources to better educate yourself on this subject, particularly on the reporting/enforcement end. That will help you understand why they've instituted this policy.[/small]Treblaine said:
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PfffftahahahahahaTreblaine said:
That's right, folks: giving women safe spaces where they don't need to worry about being groped is the same thing as homophobia, racism, and islamophobia. You heard it here first on The Escapist.
Pro tip: EVERYWHERE on public transport should be a safe place whether men or women are around.Kahunaburger said:
I think the relevant Japanese authorities are capitulating to a poorly thought out idea. If they have not considered Samaritan Laws, that might be the problem. You know, laws mandating that if you see a crime you MUST report it ASAP and if CCTV or the victim later proves you saw the crime but did not report it in a timely manner then you will be prosecuted. I am certainly not going to this measure in Japan just because it's a different culture. I won't support Iran's persecution of homosexuals just because Iran is a different country from Britain with "oh, I'm sure they have good reasons". Wrong is wrong.
If you have some relevant information about Japan and law enforcement against sexual abusers, then cough it up. Don't just assume there is evidence out there to support your that I have to find. I am not aware on any inability of Japanese authorities to detect, arrest, charge and prosecute sexual abusers on public transport, or why such penalties would be ineffective deterrent.
Yeah, segregation of groups is bad, sexism is as bad as racism, homophobia or islamophobia. Are you suggesting sexism is not a serious issue?
You think this is a laughing matter, you think treating sexes equally is laughable?
You call it " giving women safe spaces where they don't need to worry"
I'm quite sure when the US Military rounded up every single person of Japanese descent, even Third generation American Citizens, and herded them into concentration camps (even US govt described them as such) that was done for safety reasons so they "don't need to worry"
It's still wrong.