Forced Evoloution.
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Your premise is flawed, here is a simplified version of what you are trying to say: If I cut the arms off two people and had them mate then obviously their children would be armless too.
No! Evolution doesn't work that way, and worst of all there was a thread just like this one which I went on a lengthy rant about just last night. So if you want to read about evolution use the internet, read Origin of Species, or read the Selfish Gene, (I know it is by Dawkins but it was back when his primary mission was to be a scientist, not spread the word about atheism) don't just come up with ideas about forcing evolution on people and then butchering the concept about as badly as saying that evolution moves in a set direction. So please a word of advice to anyone out there who wants to start a thread about evolution: Make sure you understand it otherwise all the bio majors will be angry and will summon C'thulu on you. Thank you for your time.
Oh and because I am really dedicated to the idea of procrastinating when I have a big ass Chinese project due tomorrow here is a quick synopsis of how evolution would work. You put people in room that is always 100 degrees, people start to live and work in that room, some get heat stroke, most are just flat out lathargic, and a few don't mind the heat. The latter group (Cold natured and hot natured people) At this point the people who don't mind the heat assimilate better and spend more time doing everyone's favorite activity: Screwing. They screw a lot and have babies, and pass on their heat resistant gene. But all this is predicated on the assumption that there are genes for hot and cold resistance and it isn't just something you learn to live with, and I really don't know that fact to speak decisively, but it seems probable that genes can have some influence to how well we adapt to certain types of temperature but this is just based off extremophiles and their environment, but even if we have a genetic disposition for doing better in the heat we can still survive in the cold thanks to that big four pound idea factory in our head that came up with the idea of a heater. Hooray!
No! Evolution doesn't work that way, and worst of all there was a thread just like this one which I went on a lengthy rant about just last night. So if you want to read about evolution use the internet, read Origin of Species, or read the Selfish Gene, (I know it is by Dawkins but it was back when his primary mission was to be a scientist, not spread the word about atheism) don't just come up with ideas about forcing evolution on people and then butchering the concept about as badly as saying that evolution moves in a set direction. So please a word of advice to anyone out there who wants to start a thread about evolution: Make sure you understand it otherwise all the bio majors will be angry and will summon C'thulu on you. Thank you for your time.
Oh and because I am really dedicated to the idea of procrastinating when I have a big ass Chinese project due tomorrow here is a quick synopsis of how evolution would work. You put people in room that is always 100 degrees, people start to live and work in that room, some get heat stroke, most are just flat out lathargic, and a few don't mind the heat. The latter group (Cold natured and hot natured people) At this point the people who don't mind the heat assimilate better and spend more time doing everyone's favorite activity: Screwing. They screw a lot and have babies, and pass on their heat resistant gene. But all this is predicated on the assumption that there are genes for hot and cold resistance and it isn't just something you learn to live with, and I really don't know that fact to speak decisively, but it seems probable that genes can have some influence to how well we adapt to certain types of temperature but this is just based off extremophiles and their environment, but even if we have a genetic disposition for doing better in the heat we can still survive in the cold thanks to that big four pound idea factory in our head that came up with the idea of a heater. Hooray!
Training someone to be used to the cold is not the same as evolving or naturally adapting to cope with it better. All of those people would still have close to the same threshold for cold as other humans. It's kind of like saying you could take a group of body builders and isolate them off from society so they could produce massive body builder babies... It doesn't work like that. Going through rigorous training and altering your body to a certain state is not genetically passed on. The only selective results you see would be minor and not really that much different from other humans, also it would take a very very long time to even see the results at all.
You are cunfusing cultural evolution with physical evolution.
You are cunfusing cultural evolution with physical evolution.
What I just posted was:Mrsnugglesworth said:
The opening post makes false assumptions, and is unanswerable
It is false because: (reason.)
Here is a suggestion to the original poster to make the opening post work.
Do you have a problem with how I tried to help improve the OP? Or was I not clear enough?
Anyway, the idea of, "Forced evolution" could only work if someone was, in fact, performing artificial selection. (which is what I suggested)
Evolution is not a matter of enough people living in a certain condition. In nature at least... Well, take a look at of Darwin's research.
So, next time you attempt correct someone in such a rude manner, please make sure you have your facts straight.
Actually, don't correct someone so rudely, even if you do have your facts straight. Be polite. Sure, I was a little blunt in my post, but I didn't say, "You have no idea," now did I?
..lizards said:BOOOOOOOOOOOOO if we killed grammar nazis that would help evolution right?curty129 said:I don't like you at all. Focus on your spelling and maybe we can be friends? ^^ If you'd like that, that is D:JoshFTL said:
OT: I'd approve of it genetically. Though there would need to be limits.
Edit: I also know very little of the consequences of doing such a thing. But what the hell
I thought your sarcasm was very good. You got me into believing you were serious while i read it. Ignore the guy who likes AIDs immune prostitutes!Grand_Pamplemousse said:
(Then again, i think everyone would prefer that.)
THE GRAMMAR NAZIS MUST DIE DX For evolution of course. And pleasure.
:3
There is an RPG in this somewhere....
"You Climbed the Mountain of Zezerkastan, 15% Frost Resistance Achieved....15 Darwin Coins earned"
Unless we discover Evolution stones I don't see how this all would work.
Plus We don't have forever so We shouldn't spend our times foolishly
"You Climbed the Mountain of Zezerkastan, 15% Frost Resistance Achieved....15 Darwin Coins earned"
Unless we discover Evolution stones I don't see how this all would work.
Plus We don't have forever so We shouldn't spend our times foolishly
... Now, don't come knocking at my door telling me to breed with a bunch of cold resistant women. Im busy and I don't feel like partaking in any eugenics experiment.Erana said:
// Housebroken Lunatic - What? What's wrong with wearing shorts and a t-shirt during mid winter? It's not THAT cold...
I am sorry, but all this reminded me of...Svenparty said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8aiEn2MHpE
This is why Napoleon and Hitler's forces were mostly run out of Russia. The Cossack and the Russian winters hurt Napoleon's army and Hitler's army in Russia was due to the battle of Stalingrad and the Russian winters.JoshFTL said:
Russians can survive in that cold climate since they have lived there that many years.
You had a good idea but the Russians beat you to it.
I don't know if I missed some medical miracle but last I checked The People Will Die.Radeonx said:
Life has a pretty consistent 100% Mortality rate.
I got what you were saying...I'm just tired and wanted to get sassy.
But what Ideological group of people isn't trying to do that?Altorin said:
It is just a matter of what the group considers super. As far as I know all groups of wildly imaginative people are trying to build super folks. Just for some being super is as simple as not having sex and refraining from constantly raping children.
