Ah, GWB. They don't make presidents like that anymore. These new presidents, pfah - totally awful.
Former president trump indicted.
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If every legal proceeding of Trump all failed it could help him by making it look like the establishment really is out to get him (nevermind the fact that if they were they would have won all those cases) which could revitalize his chance to win the GOP primary. That's not impossible since DA are... to put it nicely, not always very good at their job when it comes to political case, also Trump can always run crying to the supreme court which would probably exonerate him in some cases.
But I don't see this helping him in the general in anyway, so maybe if the democrat/Biden really mess up it could, in a very roundabout way and under specific scenario, be said that it helped him get elected. Biden/democrats aren't in a very strong position going into the election, strangely because people have the impression that Biden didn't do much when he actually did quite a lot. At the same time, inflation is going down and the economy is still doing well, which should be good for them. But its always hard to predict general election since it pretty much entirely depend on a few states and so local conditions can cause wide shift. And also because people have a shockingly low awarness of whats actually going on since most people either watch no news or get it from terrible source.
There may be a contingent of Republicans who were looking to support DeSantis because of Trump's foul-ups, but see the indictment as some sort of attack on the Republican party as a whole. How large would that contingent be? I have no idea.
Funny how some wealthy Harvard graduate from Connecticut just has to affect a bad Texan accent to become "the kind of President I'd like to have a beer with".
Fox and Bannon and Shapiro's media networks will be doing all they can to spin this so that it does convert any who may be ambivalent on Trump.
"The Liberals have just gone too far this time."
What exactly is THE NARRATIVE here? Basic human decency in politics?
Story from last year when it was thought the case was dropped.
www.foxnews.com
Manhattan DA Bragg suspended Trump investigation 'indefinitely,' stopped pursuing charges
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg stopped pursuing charges against former President Trump and suspended the investigation “indefinitely,” one of the top prosecutors who resigned from the office said in his resignation letter--but disagreed with the decision.
www.foxnews.com
This is not just a Trump problem. Trump is right, there are many corrupt elites that create a swamp. Trump is one of them.
They've never been held to account and many pro-Capitalists see them as heroes
Hillary is an idiot and thought Trump was an easy target. She was proven wrong
Now, I'm going to point out that Reagan was going to be charged for his many, many crimes that, IMO, far outstrip Trump's. He got a pardon from Bush. Same with Nixon, as he he also going to be charged but was pardon by a friendly neighbourhood president. It is also very disgusting that Bill Clinton wasn't charged as well. Same with Bush 2, who, 20 years on, is blaming the CIA for everything when many in the CIA told Bush that the WMD evidence was fabricated
So, while this might feel new... it's actually not. Future presidents usually pardoned criminal ones. This is the first time the pardon hasn't happened
If someone keeps breaking the law, clearly the penalty isn't sufficient. By which I don't necessarily mean that punitiveness is a deterrent, but that if someone continues to demonstrate a contempt for the law, society should act to protect itself by isolating that person from society.
If the law repeatedly sees what you're doing and tells you that you've done nothing illegal, why would you feel you have contempt for the law?
I am afraid it is, "shut up, obey, get in the pods, eat the bugs" but that is long term. For now, don't rock the boat. If other pols are engaged in crime, if they're getting us into wars that have nothing to do with us, and more, you go along. Trump wasn't. So he has to be gotten rid of, even if the charge they are using is silly (massaging a misdemeanor into a felony).
Note that Trump wanted the police to go in hard on protests, cracking skulls and shooting people, but he dialed that back to shooting to maim, rather than kill. Sorta seems like he wanted people to shut up and obey.
And eat the bugs. Plebs aint fit for real meat.
That does sound more like one of his ass hat moments rather than actually having the FBI take out political opponents or collude with private companies to censor people or get people fired if they don't take the clot shot, even if they have natural immunity already, have religious or health reasons not to and more.
Tucker at 12:00: Why do they hate Trump so? His guest mostly thinks it is because he is trying to stop them from getting us all killed in wars that have nothing to do with us.
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I would suggest that a great deal of the time, the law does not what see people are doing. Not least in the case of Trump, because such people pay lawyers and accountants to conceal their dealings from the law, and have lobbied to diminish the state's ability to scrutinise and investigate.
That's also why Trump has a long history of employing shysters. There's a simple reason he is under threat and his lawyers, business managers and other associates keep getting prosecuted and convicted: the rot emanates straight from the top. Trump is corrupt, and employs people with lax ethical standards who will facilitate that.
Which is kind of hilarious, because since we've been able to see so many Fox employees' personal messages, we all know that Carlson hates Trump, too.
This is also, we might note, the same Tucker Carlson that about ten years ago lived near Hunter Biden and knew him socially. Tucker and his wife had such lovely things to say about Hunter, and they asked the son of the then-VP Joe Biden if he could write a letter of support for Carlson's son to get into an elite university. Oh yes, the same Tucker Carlson that then raged about Hunter in terms of privileged people leveraging their connections for advantage.
Tucker is playing his audience for suckers, just like Trump does.
Tucker has given speeches about his own "awakening" noting just how wrong his younger self was. It's good when people can admit such things.
Awfully convenient how that "awakening" coincides with making millions of dollars leading gullible idiots around by their hatred and fears, isn't it? Also odd how his private communications with fellow Fox News staffers shows that his public/acting persona is different than his actual one.
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So, we were told Trump would weaponize the deep state, curtail liberty, harm, even wreck our economy, get us into countless wars. Instead he was the 1st POTUS to not get us into a new war in an age, we saw rising wages for this 1st time, relative to inflation, since around 1970, Obama's kids in cages were closed down and more. Biden gets in due to the malpractice of our MSM, inflation is reaching historic highs, banks failing, 5 million have crossed our border, the kids in cages are back, and we're on the cusp of nuclear annihilation and more. And you think peoples' fears of big government only exist so Tucker can make money? Good luck with that outlook.
ITMT: The leading Republican candidate is under indictment for a misdemeanor matter that fact basis of which has run statute and you don't think this means trouble?
I wouldn't run for office. I'm sure at some point in my life, I've torn a tag off a pillow.
EDIT: OK, I thought this was pretty funny:
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