Fox News Attacks NEA for Classifying Games as Art

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sta697

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im not even from usa and yet i know that fox news is full of shit.all major media have political agendas and you escapist act like youre in shock,i thought you were smarter than this
 
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I'd love to think that I didn't see this coming a mile off.

But I'm not going to even dignify watching the video. Fox News is a parasite and doesn't need my viewing.
 

AhumbleKnight

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Ace IV said:
ZeroMachine said:
Ace IV said:
Fox didn't do anything wrong, they had a debate. Your ire should be directed at the dude who was arguing against video games as art, not FNC itself.
They set up the debate so the guy opposing video games would ignore every point the other guy made. Fox is just as much at fault for this as that asshole radio guy.
They set up the debate so people could hear a different point of view. The dude from FNC never took a side, as good reporters don't. Stop blaming Fox for reporting the news in an honest way
No, a good reporter will challange a responce and have a go at them for ignoring the question or paying it off. A good reporter would have asked more engaing questions of both sides. A good reporter would not have shown obviously non-artictic, uneducational games flashing on the screen the whole time. A good reporter/news organisation would never have produced that clip.
 

Xanthious

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K_Dub said:
It's never wasteful to spend money to support the arts, and I suppose it's only wishful thinking in hoping that the people over at Fox actually realize that video games are an art form.

You know what? We should get the guys from Extra Credits on Fox! They'd tear those ignorant jerks a new one!
Besides the obvious problem of forcing people to support something regardless of whether they want to or not, the big problem with funding art is that art is extremely subjective. Some people think cramming paint up your backside and letting loose on a big piece o' canvas is art. Some tool in Italy took a dog off the street tied it up and starved it to death and called that art. There are more examples of crazy things people consider art but the point is what one person thinks of as art another person thinks of as simply offensive.

If people want to give money to organizations that support the arts that is awesome. However, I think that the taxpayers' pockets simply isn't where the arts should be looking for their funding. Let the arts be supported through donations or private funding any number of fundraising efforts but not through public coffers. I personally do not want my money going to supporting the arts. However, being part of the half of Americans that pay taxes I am being forced to against my will.
 

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NoDamnNames said:
once again fox news gets the equivalent of thousands in free advertising by running offensive material and having angry people post their nonsensical dribble all over the web :(


with fox "news" mediums the best thing to do is ignore them, and they will literally die.
Exactly this is intentionally to create controversy and give them money...
They still manage to piss me off.
 

Space Jawa

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Ranchcroutons said:
All games are art and ignorance of this only causes more confusion for people on the outside looking in.
Grand Theft Auto. Duke Nukem. That school shooting mod game. The Conker series. Twisted Metal. Mortal Kombat. Ninjabread Man. God of War. Most of the Movie Tie-in games out there.

You're really going to try to classify all those kinds of games as art?

I can keep going if you need me to.

Oscar90 said:
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Oscar90 said:
Why won't people understand how easy it is to solve problems with assasination?
I laughed. Well done sir.
I was being semi-serious.
I'm bothered by the fact that you're even being 'semi' serious.
 

cybran

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who watches fox news anyway.. unless you're playing that drink and sip game for everytime they lie and harass that was mentioned earlier.

How Fox is still a proper channel in the states is beyond me, rednecks...
 

Sion_Barzahd

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Meh. Let fox have their rants, clearly they've got the money to waste on these pointless segements wherein they deny all reality and stick to the facts they have in their minor knowledge which is probably attain from reading a headline such as NEA change criteria to include interactive media as a form of art.

The only issue i sadly see in this is that it will cause a lot of strife now that they have people believing that games like call of duty are recieving government funding for being a form of art.

However they fail to look at other media and put things into perspective. For example films are classes as an art form, although i bet scream 4 was getting funds from the government. When will small minded people realise that because it includes this form of media does not mean it includes all of that media. (poorly written sentence but i think you get the gist.)

I do truly hope that NEA doesn't change its criteria back because of hot headed fools like those from fox making a big fuss. I doubt it will change it, but stranger things have happened.
 

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Ace IV said:
Fox didn't do anything wrong, they had a debate. Your ire should be directed at the dude who was arguing against video games as art, not FNC itself.
Or, you know, the guys who thought it was news to bring him on. Vetting your "experts" is part of what makes you a "journalist."
 

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The problem is, i watch Fox for the daily news, but anything opinionated i take with a pinch of salt. My mother is very supportive of Fox News in all ways and everytime their bias about videogames comes up i make her read the article on the Escapist. I think im making progress though.
 

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The whole "Art Video Games Art?" debate is pointless. Some games are, (Dante's Inferno), some games are not (Call of Duty). Not all games should be considered an artistic statement. However, if funding is involved, it should be mentioned that even the most bland shooter has tons of character rendering and mapping. Look at Spartans in Halo. Somebody had to create those images.
 

Realitycrash

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God. Fucking. Damn. It. I'm not even from the US and I hate these fuckers anyway. They represent everything that's wrong with the media.
 

Realitycrash

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Space Jawa said:
Ranchcroutons said:
All games are art and ignorance of this only causes more confusion for people on the outside looking in.
Grand Theft Auto. Duke Nukem. That school shooting mod game. The Conker series. Twisted Metal. Mortal Kombat. Ninjabread Man. God of War. Most of the Movie Tie-in games out there.

You're really going to try to classify all those kinds of games as art?

I can keep going if you need me to.
You saying Postal isn't art? You can make some very pretty pictures with blood!
 

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Assassin Xaero said:
Dear other countries in the world, if you get made and decide to attack and invade the United States, please strike Fox News HQ first, then I promise we will try to work out a compromise afterwards...
I believe that every one of us Norwegians on this site who has seen Fox News' blatant stupidity will promise this. Then, we shall party all night long with the rest of the US.
Also, watch this and switch Khadafi (Or however you spell it in English, we say Gadaffi) with Fox News, and switch "World leader" with "News network":
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DSK-

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I am neither shocked or surprised by this. It just makes me laugh that people can be ignorant and simple minded when doing a story like this.
 

Realitycrash

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Haydyn said:
The whole "Art Video Games Art?" debate is pointless. Some games are, (Dante's Inferno), some games are not (Call of Duty). Not all games should be considered an artistic statement. However, if funding is involved, it should be mentioned that even the most bland shooter has tons of character rendering and mapping. Look at Spartans in Halo. Somebody had to create those images.
...How is Dante's Inferno your first-go-to thought when you think of "Games are art"?
In reality, everything is art, some art is just shitty.
 

Jamous

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Because we didn't see this coming... :( Doesn't make it any easier to see that people find games to be such an illegitimate medium. Also; they don't complain about the fact that movies etc. are getting state funding, do they? Ugh. FOX; scum of the Earth.