Fox News Good Reporting?????

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Outcast107 said:
And last, show me where Germany or any other people who did worst then us say sorry to the people they did bad things.
"Germany's response to its war crimes has been largely approved by the former Allies. The Government of the Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany until 1990) offered official apologies for Germany's role in the Holocaust. Additionally, German leaders have continuously expressed repentance, most notably when former Chancellor Willy Brandt fell on his knees in front of a Holocaust memorial in the Warsaw Ghetto, also known as the Warschauer Kniefall in 1970. Germany has also paid extensive reparations, including nearly $70 billion to the state of Israel. It has given $15 billion to Holocaust survivors and will continue to compensate them until 2015. Additionally, the government of Germany coordinated an effort to reach a settlement with German companies that had used slave labor during the war; the companies will pay $1.7 billion to victims. Germany also established a National Holocaust Memorial Museum in Berlin for looted property."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_war_crimes

As for the OP, no. People like Bill O'Reilly just scream over any argument they don't like to hear and Fox is pretty much the incarnation of Republicans. Pure and simple, they're not objective.
 

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Skeleon said:
Outcast107 said:
And last, show me where Germany or any other people who did worst then us say sorry to the people they did bad things.
"Germany's response to its war crimes has been largely approved by the former Allies. The Government of the Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany until 1990) offered official apologies for Germany's role in the Holocaust. Additionally, German leaders have continuously expressed repentance, most notably when former Chancellor Willy Brandt fell on his knees in front of a Holocaust memorial in the Warsaw Ghetto, also known as the Warschauer Kniefall in 1970. Germany has also paid extensive reparations, including nearly $70 billion to the state of Israel. It has given $15 billion to Holocaust survivors and will continue to compensate them until 2015. Additionally, the government of Germany coordinated an effort to reach a settlement with German companies that had used slave labor during the war; the companies will pay $1.7 billion to victims. Germany also established a National Holocaust Memorial Museum in Berlin for looted property."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_war_crimes

As for the OP, no. People like Bill O'Reilly just scream over any argument they don't like to hear and Fox is pretty much the incarnation of Republicans. Pure and simple, they're not objective.
hmm ok. I take back what I said about Germany. And I shall say sorry for what I said.
 

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Outcast107 said:
hmm ok. I take back what I said about Germany. And I shall say sorry for what I said.
Thank you.
Its no problem. I just got caught up in the moment is all. Sorry to everyone when I seem like a jackass...I grow tired seeing religion/political threads. Just so annoying, and everyone has their opinion and try to force it on to others.
 

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Fox is a hell of a lot more reliable than CNN or CBS... don't be ridiculous. They are not even right wing. They are moderates, they just look like hard right because CNN and CBS are SOOOO liberal. If you want right wing go listen to Levin and Limbaugh, that is right wing. There is a very good reason why Fox now owns the ratings... They tell simple fact for the most part outside of the opinion based segments such as Hannity and Beck, but those are late night and off hours. But segments such as Greta Van Sustern, and the O'Reilly Factor are simply facts and logic, which a lot of people in this illiterate and horridly unintelligent society hate for the simple fact that they do not understand logic and without logic fact doesn?t make sense.
I'm sorry, but you screwed yourself over with the bolded part. I live on the opposite side of the world and I know O'Reilly's full of shit. It's so well documented that I've seen a documentary, here (or at least part of it) that even gave a perfect example of Bill lying through his teeth.
 

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First off, who said anything about public healthcare? All I said was it wrong to go around and say sorry to another countries for when we just went over and got rid of a dicator.

Second, I never said he trying to ruin the country. Your just now putting words in my mouth. and third, we are already triple in debt thanks to his "simulates plans" which is a big backfire. And last, show me where Germany or any other people who did worst then us say sorry to the people they did bad things. Did Japan say sorry to China when they unless their soldiers on them to rape,murder and or whatever to them? Did Japan say sorry to us for bombing Pearl harbor when we weren't in the war? (Not picking on Japan, just WW2 they did just as many bad things as Germany). We as Americans also did bad things, but saying sorry when we didn't do anything bad is just wrong.
Removing a dictator who, although obviously bad, was still the legitimate ruler of a sovereign nation who didn't provoke us (he didn't invade Kuwait this time, we had no reason to go in)

What, you expected the economy to be fixed immediately? These things take time, and we had damn near a decade for things to get broken in the first place. Frankly, if Obama spends these 4 years getting us even just on the right track to recovery, it would be an unprecedented success.
Yes, I know it won't go changing, but we the whole world going in debt and such spending more money isn't the right way to go. I just see another great depression going to happen. I mean look at history, the world was in debt, and I believe our presdient at that time just kept spending, and then raise taxes on export and import(what a fucktard) to get money. Which backfire since ever other single country did it as well..which cause the major depression. But hey I try not to be negative, but in this time I just see history repeating itself.
k history repeating itself?
a republican got us into the first great depression, a democrat got us out.
the economy situation is already getting better, just at an extremly painfully slow rate. part of the problem is for obama's stimulate plan to work completely, every state needs to use the money given to it. problem? republican govs are refuseing to use it

but back to the subject, both the daily show and the colbert report (probably the daily show more so than the colbert report) will be able to tell you what's going on and give you the facts. !!BUT!!, they definitly give you the news with a liberal bias. unless you're one of those idiots who don't know colbert uses satire (I've meet them, they're out there). then he is like fox
 

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I'm sorry, but you screwed yourself over with the bolded part. I live on the opposite side of the world and I know O'Reilly's full of shit. It's so well documented that I've seen a documentary, here (or at least part of it) that even gave a perfect example of Bill lying through his teeth.[/quote]

If he were a liar, which he's not, do you really think that he would be the number one cable news show for over 8 years? Do you really think that the American people are ignorant enough to tune in every night in record numbers to a liar? I don't think so but hey once again it's debate that makes this country great, not calling those who oppose your view point liars
 

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Oo Rev oO said:
I'm sorry, but you screwed yourself over with the bolded part. I live on the opposite side of the world and I know O'Reilly's full of shit. It's so well documented that I've seen a documentary, here (or at least part of it) that even gave a perfect example of Bill lying through his teeth.
If he were a liar, which he's not, do you really think that he would be the number one cable news show for over 8 years? Do you really think that the American people are ignorant enough to tune in every night in record numbers to a liar? I don't think so but hey once again it's debate that makes this country great, not calling those who oppose your view point liars[/quote]

It's really not that hard to figure out how he achieves the ratings. For simplicity sake, let's say America is split 50/50 over left and right wing. We have 2 left wing networks and 1 right wing. This creates a 25/25/50 split which easily allows any show on Fox to be rated much higher than anything on MSNBC or CNN.
 

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I was watching the news not, fox but clicking channels aimlessly when i stumble on Fox News. They were doing nostop coverage about how NBC and other news stations and how they must be "in bed" with the president becuase there is an apparent commercial that slams obama and his health care plan.

It seems stations like NBC and CNN wont showw the commercial and they went on and on and on and on and on about these stations. Not thinking they are also guilty of not showing aaaaaannnnnnything close to resembling anything goood or nice about Obama. Just alot of blah blah blah socailist, blah blah blah destroying america, blah blah blah America doesnt like him or his health care.

I was begining to wounder is Fox News a realiable News Station given when theyre not bashing obama or be stupid , they do actually report news. Some high speed chases, drug busts. Are they to be quoted or watched. How good do you think they are.


By the way the Daily Show and Colbert Report are freaking awesome.
Wow, it took you this long to find this out????
Yah, I don't really watch network news, It ticks me off...
 

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mspencer82 said:
Fox News isn't any more slanted than the other networks; in fact they're less slanted than the likes of MSNBC. The main point of contention that people (including the ones complaining in this thread) have is that they're conservative.

See, you can be as biased as you want, but being conservative? That deserves crucifixion.
No but your post does point out one of fox news more annoying problems, its martyrdom complex. Spendings its time flipping between boasting about how it is the most watched news network and how everyone is out to get you because you are conservative does not make for a convincing story.

The fact that fox is a part of the Muurdoch empire making it part of one of the biggest evils in existence does not help either. Neither does the fact the seem to be legally able to tell lies might not sit that well with people either http://ceasespin.org/ceasespin_blog/ceasespin_blogger_files/fox_news_gets_okay_to_misinform_public.html

Edit. The bbc is seen as left wing in America because of how right wing the country is as a whole. Really Obama would fit right into most of countries rightwing parties without to many issues.
 

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Frankly I'm sick of these kind of political threads that have no end to them.

1) Ignorance spouting from some of the people here, guys the internet is huge, there are news sources available from almost every country in the world. Even if Americans claim that their own news networks are biased, you could very easily take a look at what people in the other countries are saying. Even if they don't cover specific topics....

2) Have your own ideas, Fox news say 'Obama sucks', so freakin what? The last I checked the US was a republic, you vote the government you want into office, the guy you voted for didn't win? Tough luck, the MAJORITY OF YOUR PEOPLE VOTED FOR HIM. Your leaders aren't just one dimensional characters, they are supposed to stand for the ideals of their party and the country. Don't like it? Migrate...

3) Or Take action, Impeachment, getting your own political candidate into congress/elections the next round. Running for election yourself. Protest. Rally. Educate yourself

Stop wasting your energy complaining to the rest of the world how much your president sucks.
 

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Fox is a hell of a lot more reliable than CNN or CBS... don't be ridiculous. They are not even right wing. They are moderates, they just look like hard right because CNN and CBS are SOOOO liberal. If you want right wing go listen to Levin and Limbaugh, that is right wing. There is a very good reason why Fox now owns the ratings... They tell simple fact for the most part outside of the opinion based segments such as Hannity and Beck, but those are late night and off hours. But segments such as Greta Van Sustern, and the O'Reilly Factor are simply facts and logic, which a lot of people in this illiterate and horridly unintelligent society hate for the simple fact that they do not understand logic and without logic fact doesn?t make sense.
wow just wow, you must have no clue, watch some of the Daily Show clips on Beck and O'Rielly, while they are cut up they show what a couple of hypocrites they are. they've had O'Rielly argue with himself over issues and same with Beck.

Beck himself has on air called Obama a racist and that he hates white people. O'Rielly will say that people carrying guns at anti-Bush rallies are a bunch of nuts and whackos and should be tosses in jail and ones at the health care reform meetings are protecting our freedom and great people.

they are far from being factual and truthful, they weren't critical of Bush, they were all for him and would ignore stuff he did. since they don't cover it, that means they don't disagree with it but they don't care what he did.

it's pretty scary that in the US, the most balanced news shows are 2 comedy news shows.

if you want to see balanced news, watch either the BBC in the UK or CTV, Global or CBC in Canada.
 

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O boy Fox news hate from the soundbyte generation. Whooda thunk it. Perhaps we could get some olberman clips on here from MSNBC.... But thats okay cause thats in favor of a liberal view.

It's only wrong when its conservative!
 

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O boy Fox news hate from the soundbyte generation. Whooda thunk it. Perhaps we could get some olberman clips on here from MSNBC.... But thats okay cause thats in favor of a liberal view.

It's only wrong when its conservative!
I hear this a lot, but many of the posts here are trashing MSNBC and CNN as well. It's only wrong when it's... well, wrong. Which all of them frequently are, in their attempts to provide entertainment instead of news.
 

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sneakypenguin said:
O boy Fox news hate from the soundbyte generation. Whooda thunk it. Perhaps we could get some olberman clips on here from MSNBC.... But thats okay cause thats in favor of a liberal view.

It's only wrong when its conservative!
I hear this a lot, but many of the posts here are trashing MSNBC and CNN as well. It's only wrong when it's... well, wrong. Which all of them frequently are, in their attempts to provide entertainment instead of news.
Yeah but it's majority fox hate :p At least the 2 pages I read. Just the blatent double standard drives me up a wall. Just why can't people admit that fox is middle right msnbc is middle left, and cnn middle left. And that all suck at any sort of objective reporting.

But then there would be no fighting and that wouldn't be fun :p
 

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oppp7 said:
Feh, Fox is too right and CNN n NBC are too left. Watch the BBC if you want news...
Or the Daily Show/Colbert Report.

sneakypenguin said:
O boy Fox news hate from the soundbyte generation. Whooda thunk it. Perhaps we could get some olberman clips on here from MSNBC.... But thats okay cause thats in favor of a liberal view.

It's only wrong when its conservative!
It's only wrong when you are a retard.

Most folks aren't pro MSNBC just because they hate Fox. They hate 24 hour news period. Because it is always wrong.

Likewise don't lump conservatives into Fox News. It's insulting. I'm not conservative but I've met conservatives and many of them were nowhere near as misinformed as the people on Fox.

24 Hour News is just reality TV. It has absolutely no use outside of subpar entertainment.
 

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Fox is a hell of a lot more reliable than CNN or CBS... don't be ridiculous. They are not even right wing. They are moderates, they just look like hard right because CNN and CBS are SOOOO liberal. If you want right wing go listen to Levin and Limbaugh, that is right wing. There is a very good reason why Fox now owns the ratings... They tell simple fact for the most part outside of the opinion based segments such as Hannity and Beck, but those are late night and off hours. But segments such as Greta Van Sustern, and the O'Reilly Factor are simply facts and logic, which a lot of people in this illiterate and horridly unintelligent society hate for the simple fact that they do not understand logic and without logic fact doesn?t make sense.
I hope that was a joke, cause you made me laugh. Every time I listen to Fox this is what I hear "Is Obama killing America?" "Obama is destroying America with socialism" "Obama is trying to brain wash our children with this new speech".

What ever happened to news channels, I don't know telling us the news? What is so fucking hard about giving us the facts and then letting us decide? Or if you must have a right wing news section and then have a left wing news section. Show both sides of the argument and please both parties if they must hear there propaganda.
 

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IDBash said:
Fox is a hell of a lot more reliable than CNN or CBS... don't be ridiculous. They are not even right wing. They are moderates, they just look like hard right because CNN and CBS are SOOOO liberal. If you want right wing go listen to Levin and Limbaugh, that is right wing. There is a very good reason why Fox now owns the ratings... They tell simple fact for the most part outside of the opinion based segments such as Hannity and Beck, but those are late night and off hours. But segments such as Greta Van Sustern, and the O'Reilly Factor are simply facts and logic, which a lot of people in this illiterate and horridly unintelligent society hate for the simple fact that they do not understand logic and without logic fact doesn?t make sense.
I hope that was a joke, cause you made me laugh. Every time I listen to Fox this is what I hear "Is Obama killing America?" "Obama is destroying America with socialism" "Obama is trying to brain wash our children with this new speech".

What ever happened to news channels, I don't know telling us the news? What is so fucking hard about giving us the facts and then letting us decide? Or if you must have a right wing news section and then have a left wing news section. Show both sides of the argument and please both parties if they must hear there propaganda.
If Fox News is required to have a left wing segment, then CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, etc. all need to have right wing segments.