I do wonder why news programs try to think for us and present these made up fears, maybe they think people are incapeable of making their own minds up about a certain game or media.
Fox News Says Bulletstorm Could Make You a Rapist
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In other news the "Hoag Neurosciences Institute" is just part of some Presbyterian hospital just off Newport Beach and has been venerated by such revered sources as the local Orange County newspaper.
http://www.hoag.org/about
http://www.hoag.org/about
They got distracted? Distracted? So banning things you don't like, Prof. Killen, is more important than an election? You jest, yes? I submit that charlatans like yourself are the ones doing the distracting. By always pushing your scaremongering agenda you take important time from the politicians that they should use for better things.Andy Chalk said:
Surely you can agree that senators and representatives have better things to spend their time on at the moment? Things like getting your economy back on track and dealing with the unemployment. And there's a couple of wars that might need looking after.
Video games cannot be that important.
I just had a look at your CV. For goodness sake: you are a scholar! You have a Ph.D. from Berkeley! You are a professor at the same place! You are editorial board member of several journals! You have published and edited a lot of books. As a scholar I must admit that I'm impressed.
But you should be better than this.
Oh lordy loo they used to say the same things about sugary breakfast cereals!
You know what makes a person a rapist? RAPING SOMEONE! Playing video games makes a person a GAMER.... more or less...
You know what makes a person a rapist? RAPING SOMEONE! Playing video games makes a person a GAMER.... more or less...
Don't buy this game for your kids. Simple, if you believe your kid is mature enough, buy it for him, if you are afraid of the effects, don't buy it. Fox News is smart enough to understand that and is trying to get parents attention, which is unfortunately business as usual, I don't see what yelling at Fox news has to do with this, they just report stuff, sometimes without reading into it, but nothing is provably untrue about this, kids are stupid and imitate what they see, don't buy your stupid kid this game.
I just don't get how they continue, it just baffles me that 'news' program is still on; its just so pathetic on every level imaginable!
I'm sure bashing games simply because they're games will stop one day.
I'm sure bashing games simply because they're games will stop one day.
No surprise here, as Bulletstorm is obviously intended to be as profane as possible. Don't expect Epic to get all apologetic over it. If anything this reveals how blatant ignorant Fox News still is today, but that is come to be expected with how far out on the political wing they sit themselves.
Parents who do their parental duty and screen games before they buy them for their kids have zero to worry about. Heck these days you would think more parents are more than willing to play the game and know better. But we still got those still stuck in the mindset that games are for kids and anything like Bulletstorm shouldn't even be produced. And we can thank Fox largely for that set of ignorance and laziness.
If there are games that do warrant certain restraints, it would be those like this. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107352-Playing-Kinect-Results-in-Child-Abuse]
Parents who do their parental duty and screen games before they buy them for their kids have zero to worry about. Heck these days you would think more parents are more than willing to play the game and know better. But we still got those still stuck in the mindset that games are for kids and anything like Bulletstorm shouldn't even be produced. And we can thank Fox largely for that set of ignorance and laziness.
If there are games that do warrant certain restraints, it would be those like this. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107352-Playing-Kinect-Results-in-Child-Abuse]
United States Reported Rape cases in -
2003: 93,883
2004: 95,089
2005: 94,347
2006: 92,757
2007: 90,427
2008: 89,000
Source: United Nations Office of Drugs and Crime.
Ms. Lieberman, if you can't even tell the truth about the numbers, how can we believe your sentiments about the cause?
2003: 93,883
2004: 95,089
2005: 94,347
2006: 92,757
2007: 90,427
2008: 89,000
Source: United Nations Office of Drugs and Crime.
Ms. Lieberman, if you can't even tell the truth about the numbers, how can we believe your sentiments about the cause?
I'll largely be playing Devil's Advocate here, but there's a lot I have to get out.
Sorry Escapist, but Fox News did not say Bulletstorm could make you a rapist... they did however, receive commentary from both sides of the issue which included opinions on the blatant sexual innuendo in the game. The reporting angle from Fox was that an extremely violent videogame is coming out, which Bulletstorm is. They then bring in the opinions of psychologists, (you know, people with expert opinions on the subject) that argue one side of the story. IE, the only side you reported on... what you forgot, my beloved Escapist News, was the rebuttal side of the article, which Destal mentioned:
"Between a great ratings system, parental controls on the consoles and the major retailers inhibiting the
sale of Mature-rated games to minors, the matter is really one for parents and adults to consider, individually," Hal Halpin, the president of the similar Entertainment Consumers Association, told FoxNews.com. "I respect the creative rights of game developers to make a game like Bulletstorm in the same way that I appreciate Quentin Tarantino's right to make over-the-top movies like Kill Bill."
They even reached out to Epic Games, and yet would receive no comment on the matter. If the opposing view point does not bring up a statistic, such as the FBI stat you mentioned, then it shouldn't be reported in an article that is about back and forth commentary. The statement Liebermann made, ?The increase in rapes can be attributed in large part to the playing out of [sexual] scenes in video games? is her statement, not Fox News's. To make the headline "Fox News Says Bulletstorm Could Make You a Rapist" is committing the exact same type of slanted headlining as "Is Bulletstorm the Worst Videogame in the World?" on the Fox News article. It's ironic that your coverage of a Fox News article commits almost the same journalistic fallacies that you accuse the article of committing. The only difference is that Fox News actually had opinions from the side supporting the Videogame industry.
Granted, Fox News is certainly not taking the position of defending Bulletstorm here, as the article is about as slanted as one can be without falling over. But that's it, the article is slanted, and almost every news network article is, because they rely on the money generated through traffic. What better way to generate traffic than to slant coverage towards your audience? This is not a new tactic. Go read Ted Koppel's article "Olbermann, O'Reilly, and the death of real news" if you don't believe me. John Brandon, the Fox article's author, did exactly what he needed to do, he gave opinions from both sides, but slanted it towards the "Videogames are too violent" crowd, which, when considering Bulletstorm's content, gives them more ammunition than it does the side this site represents.
Perhaps we should be more angry at Hal Levy... ?One thing that tends to be ignored is that if Bulletstorm consisted solely of beating people up, it wouldn't be fun to play,? as he's certainly not fighting the good fight in favor of gaming as a legitimate medium. This is certainly more disheartening to me than Fox News's babble, which will always work against the gaming community whether we like it or not. If people like this [Levy] are representing the pro gaming side of things, we better rethink our strategy. And games like Bulletstorm aren't helping either, especially when the Supreme Court is ruling this year in a case that could have huge repercussions on the industry.
Sorry Escapist, but Fox News did not say Bulletstorm could make you a rapist... they did however, receive commentary from both sides of the issue which included opinions on the blatant sexual innuendo in the game. The reporting angle from Fox was that an extremely violent videogame is coming out, which Bulletstorm is. They then bring in the opinions of psychologists, (you know, people with expert opinions on the subject) that argue one side of the story. IE, the only side you reported on... what you forgot, my beloved Escapist News, was the rebuttal side of the article, which Destal mentioned:
"Between a great ratings system, parental controls on the consoles and the major retailers inhibiting the
sale of Mature-rated games to minors, the matter is really one for parents and adults to consider, individually," Hal Halpin, the president of the similar Entertainment Consumers Association, told FoxNews.com. "I respect the creative rights of game developers to make a game like Bulletstorm in the same way that I appreciate Quentin Tarantino's right to make over-the-top movies like Kill Bill."
They even reached out to Epic Games, and yet would receive no comment on the matter. If the opposing view point does not bring up a statistic, such as the FBI stat you mentioned, then it shouldn't be reported in an article that is about back and forth commentary. The statement Liebermann made, ?The increase in rapes can be attributed in large part to the playing out of [sexual] scenes in video games? is her statement, not Fox News's. To make the headline "Fox News Says Bulletstorm Could Make You a Rapist" is committing the exact same type of slanted headlining as "Is Bulletstorm the Worst Videogame in the World?" on the Fox News article. It's ironic that your coverage of a Fox News article commits almost the same journalistic fallacies that you accuse the article of committing. The only difference is that Fox News actually had opinions from the side supporting the Videogame industry.
Granted, Fox News is certainly not taking the position of defending Bulletstorm here, as the article is about as slanted as one can be without falling over. But that's it, the article is slanted, and almost every news network article is, because they rely on the money generated through traffic. What better way to generate traffic than to slant coverage towards your audience? This is not a new tactic. Go read Ted Koppel's article "Olbermann, O'Reilly, and the death of real news" if you don't believe me. John Brandon, the Fox article's author, did exactly what he needed to do, he gave opinions from both sides, but slanted it towards the "Videogames are too violent" crowd, which, when considering Bulletstorm's content, gives them more ammunition than it does the side this site represents.
Perhaps we should be more angry at Hal Levy... ?One thing that tends to be ignored is that if Bulletstorm consisted solely of beating people up, it wouldn't be fun to play,? as he's certainly not fighting the good fight in favor of gaming as a legitimate medium. This is certainly more disheartening to me than Fox News's babble, which will always work against the gaming community whether we like it or not. If people like this [Levy] are representing the pro gaming side of things, we better rethink our strategy. And games like Bulletstorm aren't helping either, especially when the Supreme Court is ruling this year in a case that could have huge repercussions on the industry.
In truth, I doubt they've even touched the game or even the demo. They're just spitting out junk because they saw one or two screenshots.Brainst0rm said:
And by the way, who are really the perverts here? Can't the word "topless" also describe a car? Looks like Fox has a dirty mind...
Good thing these games aren't for kids then.
Seriously, if you're going to try and campaign against games like this then you might as well campaign against alcohol, smoking, porn, adult-strength medicine and 18 movies.
All of which are more dangerous to kids than a game like this anyway.
Seriously, if you're going to try and campaign against games like this then you might as well campaign against alcohol, smoking, porn, adult-strength medicine and 18 movies.
All of which are more dangerous to kids than a game like this anyway.