Fox News Says Bulletstorm Could Make You a Rapist
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"It looks like this is my lucky day! I'll take 'The Rapists' for $200."
*Alex Trebek facepalms*
Seriously, though...FOX, what are you smoking, boys?
2+2= 5 for greater values of 2. Rounding is important.blackdwarf said:
OT: Fox entertains me. I hope they never change. That way, I have stupidity that will never escalate into something worse, while still having something to laugh at.
Fox embody a quote from Australian Prime Minister Paul Keating. They are the salmon that jump on the hook for you.Woodsey said:
Awesome. I love how people can claim that games incite violent behaviours with absolutely no statistical backing (and no, violent offenders simply playing games does not count - what about the successful lawyers, engineers and civil servants who play those same games?).
Then there was that study done that said there is *no* link between violent games and violent behaviour (paraphrasing here due to laziness).
Oh well, the ignorant will ever remain just that - ignorant.
-V
Then there was that study done that said there is *no* link between violent games and violent behaviour (paraphrasing here due to laziness).
Oh well, the ignorant will ever remain just that - ignorant.
-V
Kind of jealous that I can't get fox news on tv over here in the UK, sounds quite entertaining. Is very silly though.
And Fox probably didn't report that the game was probably going to be (if it already isn't) rated M for Mature, meaning that parents should take responsibility and not let their kids play this game if at all possible.
Hell, I'm a conservative and it's moronic news like this as well as what the spineless republicans say that makes us all look so bad.
Hell, I'm a conservative and it's moronic news like this as well as what the spineless republicans say that makes us all look so bad.
As opposed to the kind that Congress doesn't want to be covered by healthcare...http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-2-2011/rape-victim-abortion-fundingEri said:
In other news, R-rated movies have adverse effects on minors!
Fox News never ceases to amuse me.
What saddens me is this: many people I know and love believe their horse shit to be true.
What saddens me is this: many people I know and love believe their horse shit to be true.
Hmmm, well as someone who leans far more to the right than the left I will say that I agree with Fox News on a lot of things, but this is obviously not going to be one of them.
I'm one of those people that feels that violence is part of being human, and it's not a bad thing to be overcome, it's something we need to learn to live with and use. I think more misery comes from trying to oppress violent behavior than almost anything else. Truthfully we wouldn't have survived as a species or risen to dominate the enviroment without it. Also kids are not being MADE violent by anything, as young, partially-formed people they have always been violent and have had far less impulse control with it like anything else. This is a key flaw with a lo tof the arguements about violent video games, they stem from the assumption that violence is bad.
Honestly I think that most video games do set a pretty good example of when and where violence is appropriate, the good/evil division is usually pretty straightforward even in "gray" games or ones where you play as the bad guy (or can choose to).
Pacifism is as dangerous as out of control violence, and I think our leanings in that direction in the USA at least have been doing a lot of damage to the nation and it's own functioning (which is something I won't be getting into in detail here).
I will also point out that I think people who are criticizing Fox News are in many ways being just as ignorant as it is. While the video game industry and those that support it will make arguements for the reduction in violence in the USA, those statements are very self serving and like any othr statistic ussed/gathered to make a point are biased. Truthfully I do tend to think there is at least as much violence as there ever has been. As you'll find if you look in the right places, there is an issue with groups like law enforcement and town goverments becoming a lot more savvy in dealing with the media in the modern age. See, back in the "old days" a lot of effort was made by towns to keep acts of violence fairly quiet to try and prevent people from freaking out, or giving their area a bad reputation. With the dawn of the "information age" and instant communications, along with more powerful research tools for checking local newspapers instantly and the like, it was very difficult for things to be hushed for quite a while. Nowadays though there are a lot of policies in place that give the authorities permission to keep things quiet, or keep documentation out of places where they can easily be picked up by the media. This means that while it still happens, it's more difficult for the media to jump in and sensationalize whats going on. What's more it also means that a lot of recent crimes aren't entering the statistics/records while the case is ongoing. I could say a lot about it, but it would turn into an even bigger ramble. It's a fairly contreversial issue in some circles because it gets into issues about the public right to know, goverment deception (especially in cases of potential danger), and also issues like the right to a fair trial which is hard to ensure when you have newspeople screaming about an incident from the rooftops or sensationalizing a crime someone is accused of.
... also, if you follow the 2012 stuff, whether you believe in it or not, there is quite a bit of buzz about how "disapperances" are on the rise. Some people tie this to things like "the white effect", which is a term for cases where people just vanish, like in those true stories about how people have come accross towns where it looked like the people just disappeared in the middle of their daily activities, with no trace to be found. In less dramatic cases some have tied it to the disappearance of individuals, and so on. Both Roanoak, and most relevent to the 2012 crowd the Mayans are often put on the "white effect" list because while many people have theories, what happened to the Mayans is still a pretty big mystery. Of course more realistically this trend can also be tied to what I mentioned above with the police using terms like "disapperance" to mask "murdered" or whatever even if they know more to try and keep things quiet and control information. If you start taking things like "disapperances" or general "missing persons" and other terms and put them into the "violent crimes" catagory it changes the statistics substantially and some people believe that's more accurate, even though given the situation nobody really knows the "truth" since nobody has all the records at the moment. We probably won't know what the actual known crime statistics are like with any accuracy for the last few years for a couple of decades (if ever) unless some kind of sweeping federal regulation forces a lot more disclosure (which honestly wouldn't nessicarly be a good idea since there are a lot of positive benefits to this). The police/authorities have always kept a lot of info from the press, but the point is that they've gotten a lot better and more assertive about it recently.
I'm one of those people that feels that violence is part of being human, and it's not a bad thing to be overcome, it's something we need to learn to live with and use. I think more misery comes from trying to oppress violent behavior than almost anything else. Truthfully we wouldn't have survived as a species or risen to dominate the enviroment without it. Also kids are not being MADE violent by anything, as young, partially-formed people they have always been violent and have had far less impulse control with it like anything else. This is a key flaw with a lo tof the arguements about violent video games, they stem from the assumption that violence is bad.
Honestly I think that most video games do set a pretty good example of when and where violence is appropriate, the good/evil division is usually pretty straightforward even in "gray" games or ones where you play as the bad guy (or can choose to).
Pacifism is as dangerous as out of control violence, and I think our leanings in that direction in the USA at least have been doing a lot of damage to the nation and it's own functioning (which is something I won't be getting into in detail here).
I will also point out that I think people who are criticizing Fox News are in many ways being just as ignorant as it is. While the video game industry and those that support it will make arguements for the reduction in violence in the USA, those statements are very self serving and like any othr statistic ussed/gathered to make a point are biased. Truthfully I do tend to think there is at least as much violence as there ever has been. As you'll find if you look in the right places, there is an issue with groups like law enforcement and town goverments becoming a lot more savvy in dealing with the media in the modern age. See, back in the "old days" a lot of effort was made by towns to keep acts of violence fairly quiet to try and prevent people from freaking out, or giving their area a bad reputation. With the dawn of the "information age" and instant communications, along with more powerful research tools for checking local newspapers instantly and the like, it was very difficult for things to be hushed for quite a while. Nowadays though there are a lot of policies in place that give the authorities permission to keep things quiet, or keep documentation out of places where they can easily be picked up by the media. This means that while it still happens, it's more difficult for the media to jump in and sensationalize whats going on. What's more it also means that a lot of recent crimes aren't entering the statistics/records while the case is ongoing. I could say a lot about it, but it would turn into an even bigger ramble. It's a fairly contreversial issue in some circles because it gets into issues about the public right to know, goverment deception (especially in cases of potential danger), and also issues like the right to a fair trial which is hard to ensure when you have newspeople screaming about an incident from the rooftops or sensationalizing a crime someone is accused of.
... also, if you follow the 2012 stuff, whether you believe in it or not, there is quite a bit of buzz about how "disapperances" are on the rise. Some people tie this to things like "the white effect", which is a term for cases where people just vanish, like in those true stories about how people have come accross towns where it looked like the people just disappeared in the middle of their daily activities, with no trace to be found. In less dramatic cases some have tied it to the disappearance of individuals, and so on. Both Roanoak, and most relevent to the 2012 crowd the Mayans are often put on the "white effect" list because while many people have theories, what happened to the Mayans is still a pretty big mystery. Of course more realistically this trend can also be tied to what I mentioned above with the police using terms like "disapperance" to mask "murdered" or whatever even if they know more to try and keep things quiet and control information. If you start taking things like "disapperances" or general "missing persons" and other terms and put them into the "violent crimes" catagory it changes the statistics substantially and some people believe that's more accurate, even though given the situation nobody really knows the "truth" since nobody has all the records at the moment. We probably won't know what the actual known crime statistics are like with any accuracy for the last few years for a couple of decades (if ever) unless some kind of sweeping federal regulation forces a lot more disclosure (which honestly wouldn't nessicarly be a good idea since there are a lot of positive benefits to this). The police/authorities have always kept a lot of info from the press, but the point is that they've gotten a lot better and more assertive about it recently.
So Bulletstorm is the game that will turn us all from media-stereotyped virgins into media-stereotyped rapists? Whoa.
So..if Dragon's Age is an indicator:
Video game player: I'm going to rape you! (Undress to underwear)
Victim:Okay...
VGP:Isn't there a fade to black and then you moan? I'm so confused... *goes home to play Bomberman
I know! I'll be an arsonist! *similar results
Kids as young as 9 playing these games? Ha, at least five year olds will play!
Online only warning? The sticker on the box in short, easily read phrases isn't enough?
Of course no one responded to Fox, and why the hell would Microsoft have any control over Bulletstorm?
Reporting has sure gone downhill, Clark Kent should start working again.
*Looks at comment section expected to laugh at ignorance
Aww...the Escapist already flooded it with reasonable arguments on solid logical ground. Damn...
Video game player: I'm going to rape you! (Undress to underwear)
Victim:Okay...
VGP:Isn't there a fade to black and then you moan? I'm so confused... *goes home to play Bomberman
I know! I'll be an arsonist! *similar results
Kids as young as 9 playing these games? Ha, at least five year olds will play!
Online only warning? The sticker on the box in short, easily read phrases isn't enough?
Of course no one responded to Fox, and why the hell would Microsoft have any control over Bulletstorm?
Reporting has sure gone downhill, Clark Kent should start working again.
*Looks at comment section expected to laugh at ignorance
Aww...the Escapist already flooded it with reasonable arguments on solid logical ground. Damn...
Queue statement from Dr. Jerry Weichman stating that Fox used his quotes out of context.
EDIT: As for Carole Lieberman, she the author of such stimulating material as "Bad Boys: Why We Love Them, How to Live with Them and When to Leave Them", "Coping With Terrorism: Dreams Interrupted", and "American Dreams Interrupted: How to Stay Safe and Sane in a Time of Terror". Crackerjack stuff right there. She is also the writer of The National Enquirer's "Hollywood on the Couch" column. probably her crowning achievement. Cosmo (Fucking Cosmo people! That's right next to National Geographic and Scientific American for intelligent magazines) called her one of the States' 'Top Therapists'! Look out Game Industry, 'cause we're fucked now!
EDIT: As for Carole Lieberman, she the author of such stimulating material as "Bad Boys: Why We Love Them, How to Live with Them and When to Leave Them", "Coping With Terrorism: Dreams Interrupted", and "American Dreams Interrupted: How to Stay Safe and Sane in a Time of Terror". Crackerjack stuff right there. She is also the writer of The National Enquirer's "Hollywood on the Couch" column. probably her crowning achievement. Cosmo (Fucking Cosmo people! That's right next to National Geographic and Scientific American for intelligent magazines) called her one of the States' 'Top Therapists'! Look out Game Industry, 'cause we're fucked now!
The worst part? People actually agree with this. I'm honestly just getting sick and tired of idiots claiming all games are for kids and that they're the only ones out there playing mature rated games. On the bright side these sort of things happen so often that not only is not a surprise, it almost seems that it's hurting them more than anything else. Ignorance is bliss until you lose funding because nobodies watching.
That's gonna be a spectacular trainwreck... Imma get me popcorn ready.Wolfy4226 said:
OT.
Huh... And here I was thinking it was marketed to 20-to-3o somethings who miss their oldschool cathartic shooters. Also: Violence + Sexual Innuendo = Rape? I thought an increase in regular old violence would be the more obvious claim. At least I'm glad FOX doesn't have a lot of sway here east of the Atlantic.Andy Chalk said: