Frostbite 2 engine and Dragon Age 3
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I think Frostbite is reasonably versatile.
Hawkeye already pointed out a list of games that use it:
I think I've even heard that they were considering it for a golf game (it simulates foliage and trees very well, water looks nice, and you could use missile physics for tracking the ball), but that was probably speculation.
Anyway, it is not inconceivable that EA may want to move more games to Frostbite, which is developed in-house at DICE, rather than licensing Unreal. I guess it would be a cost-cutting decision for them, wouldn't it?
Hawkeye already pointed out a list of games that use it:
Most of them are of the FPS variety, but some different games are starting to appear (C&C).Hawkeye 131 said:
I think I've even heard that they were considering it for a golf game (it simulates foliage and trees very well, water looks nice, and you could use missile physics for tracking the ball), but that was probably speculation.
Anyway, it is not inconceivable that EA may want to move more games to Frostbite, which is developed in-house at DICE, rather than licensing Unreal. I guess it would be a cost-cutting decision for them, wouldn't it?
And that, yes. But I think money comes first for EA.Scrustle said:
Well I say "advertise" because that is what it looks like. Whenever it's in a game they always make a huge deal out of it. It's in the trailers and splash screens when you start up many games. It makes it look like the games are little more than advertisements for the engine, because they are planning to license it out themselves. They want a slice of that Unreal money.shadebreeze said:
Or at least, that's how it looks. I haven't heard of any non-EA game using the engine, or EA showing any kind of plans to license it out. But the way they go around promoting it really makes it look like that's what they want to do.
So what I mean is that the fact they're showing off how great Frostbite is is about the money, or it may be in the future. Or maybe since that's all EA knows they have no idea how to do it any other way.
Why wouldn't they? It would only add more sales and the game would most likely receive higher ratings for including co-op. Many critics seem to vote down when a game doesn't have a co-op and the critic feels it should.SajuukKhar said:
Continually pushing the engines capability graphically is different to programming it to do a game type it wasn't built for. Traditionally a RTS would have a very different engine to say a FPS, as they are displaying different environments. The RTS would be displaying lots of lower quality models/units and drop their lods fast to keep the frame rate up, while a FPS would have higher detail, but alot smaller view and maps. Now I say traditionally for a good reason, as the difference between the modern RTS and FPS detail levels are slowly dissolving and thanks to modern hardware it may be possible to do one engine that fits all. However its yet to be proven to do it well, I'm just saying that I have reservations.Hazy992 said:Hey if Valve can get so much mileage out of the Source Engine I don't see why the Frostbite engine can't be optimised for an RPG.RicoADF said:
Speaking of Source, Valve really need a new engine. Source is really showing its age.
Inb4 the art style stays shitty, but just uses shinier graphics.
Seriously, before I actually get excited about DA3, I'd want to know if it's going to suck or not. As in mobs of enemies respawning around my party, or every character being a dark whiny *****, or all the dungeons looking the same. THAT is what needed changing, not the graphics.
I'm taking this news and the fact that EA is committed only to games with MP now to mean that DA3 is going to suck balls, since more attention will be dedicated to the graphical face-lift and the multiplayer component than what actually matters in an RPG: story, characters, campain pacing, and engaging and balanced combat.
Seriously, before I actually get excited about DA3, I'd want to know if it's going to suck or not. As in mobs of enemies respawning around my party, or every character being a dark whiny *****, or all the dungeons looking the same. THAT is what needed changing, not the graphics.
I'm taking this news and the fact that EA is committed only to games with MP now to mean that DA3 is going to suck balls, since more attention will be dedicated to the graphical face-lift and the multiplayer component than what actually matters in an RPG: story, characters, campain pacing, and engaging and balanced combat.
I really just want to respond with "so?"..I really want to. I also wanted to post a "You don't say?"glchicks said:
Mass effect is a third person shooter... so what does it change about Dragon Age?
It's just a change in graphics engine guys. Mass effect is a RPG with third person shooter gameplay who also used a graphics engine popular with shooters. It didn't stop Mass effect of being Mass effect. If Mass effect would've used the Source engine, which is also used for shooters, it wouldn't change Mass effect other than the "pwetty gwaphics".
Can we stop this petty argument before we reach the lowest level possible? like this...
I'd just like to point out that Fallout 3, Splatterhouse, Bully, Dark Age of Camelot, and Civilization 4 all share the same engine.
Err... BioWare does have a bunch of writers and programmers who've been around since Baldur's Gate or so. The problem doesn't lie in the people working directly on the games, but in the ones giving them orders from above.glchicks said:
Honestly, I think Greg and Ray have been mostly irrelevant to the company since they sold it to EA, so I don't see their departure making a significant difference.
Bioware is using the goddamn Frostbyte 2 engine for Dragon Age 3 and we're bitching about that?!
Come on guys... Please study up on game engines before assuming that this means DA3 will be more actiony. A game engine does NOT focus on just one genre. It can be modified.
Come on guys... Please study up on game engines before assuming that this means DA3 will be more actiony. A game engine does NOT focus on just one genre. It can be modified.
You make a fair point, but you've got to remember that Source hasn't just been used for FPS games. Dota 2 uses Source, as well as a number of games not developed by Valve such as Alien Swarm.RicoADF said:
Engines are more flexible than you think and can be modified to suit the developer's needs. Hell, Need For Speed: The Run and the upcoming Command & Conquer use Frostbite.
This.Fappy said:
It means DA3 will likely be less hideous to look at than it's predeccesors. Though it also means it might be a bit to demanding to exist properly on a console and it might mean obnoxious lighting effects being used to piss you off.
Oh get over yourself. Calling people the "Devil" because they happen to buy video games from a certain publisher is beyond childish. It's a video game, play something else. There are indie developers, there's obsidian's kickstarter. I have no love for EA but acting like a spoiled brat and calling people the personification of all evil because you don't like something just makes you look like an ass.PercyBoleyn said:
How did you quote me nearly a day later and get an old version of a post I had edited hours before you posted?PercyBoleyn said:
