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So I figure the whole idea behind "be prepared to show proof of identification" is so that ICE can demand your papers, reject anything you have on you (there was a story somewhere of someone who had a passport having it ignored and being arrested) and "bring you in to verify your identity". A nice excuse to arrest protestors, anyone who's recording them, or anyone they decide they don't like.
 
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The right of fans of Maccabi Tel Aviv to chant racist slogans and attack Palestinians anywhere in the world shall NOT be infringed.

(No idea why it's rendering in German.)
 

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So I figure the whole idea behind "be prepared to show proof of identification" is so that ICE can demand your papers, reject anything you have on you (there was a story somewhere of someone who had a passport having it ignored and being arrested) and "bring you in to verify your identity". A nice excuse to arrest protestors, anyone who's recording them, or anyone they decide they don't like.
Not to mention, anyone who doesn't have all their documentation on them at all times is automatically fair game.
 

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Hmm. Apparently Newsom is origami paper
Hey, a woman got shot for being in her car menacingly, and another person got shot for going after an ICE agent with a shovel (self defense, fair enough), and at least the former was labeled a terrorist to justify the action. He's just covering his own ass so ICE doesn't "accidentally" shoot him while protecting him from the illegal immigrants that are flooding and destroying California.

ETA: He's also a Democrat, origami demonstrations are kind of a key factor.
 

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There is arguably a subtle distinction here that whilst certain arms of the state (such as the police) can be used by the authorities for intimidation and violence, not all the officers of those agencies necessarily believe the state is doing so, support it, or personally carry out acts of violence and intimidation.

For instance, one can argue a certain point that people can "do their job". A soldier for instance may serve in the army of an oppressive regime with a motivation of defending his country, and whilst the army may be oppressive, that's not quite the same thing as that soldier directly being an oppressor.
 

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There is arguably a subtle distinction here that whilst certain arms of the state (such as the police) can be used by the authorities for intimidation and violence, not all the officers of those agencies necessarily believe the state is doing so, support it, or personally carry out acts of violence and intimidation.

For instance, one can argue a certain point that people can "do their job". A soldier for instance may serve in the army of an oppressive regime with a motivation of defending his country, and whilst the army may be oppressive, that's not quite the same thing as that soldier directly being an oppressor.
Sure, that's absolutely true, and in the hypothetical situation that they should get called upon to explain themselves, well, they just did their job. No arguing with that.
 

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So I figure the whole idea behind "be prepared to show proof of identification" is so that ICE can demand your papers, reject anything you have on you (there was a story somewhere of someone who had a passport having it ignored and being arrested) and "bring you in to verify your identity". A nice excuse to arrest protestors, anyone who's recording them, or anyone they decide they don't like.
Of course. They've only got several months to normalize and spread the idea if they want to effectively use ICE for voter suppression. If they go there, they won't announce the plan to use ICE to "secure elections" from "illegals voting" until after Labor Day. They can't wait until the very last second for logistical reasons (and anything at that scale would leak), but they have to ensure there's not too long to plan on how to deal with it.
 

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Literally in reference to the very thing you just said "not going to last". You don't have to say a vaccine provides basic temporary protection because it's literally basic common sense. Also, when people ask about vaccine protections, they aren't talking about protections just for a month, they are talking about years and all the way up to a lifetime.
So when you said "no protection", that's not actually what you meant. Fine, whatever. So long as you're acknowledging that it does convey protection.

The common cold is so easily transmissible because it's airborne... Of course it's, in theory, possible to catch a cold in just a minute of close contact. In theory and actual real world results are usually 2 different things. You simply don't catch colds from going to the store in any significant manner.
Yes, it transmits via airborne droplets, like covid.

You were the one who brought up the infectious dose as a metric of how transmissable something really is. You were the one who posted that link. And now you're dismissing what it says, because the infectious dose for the common cold shows it's easily catchable from a few minutes' contact.

And then people during covid were wiping down groceries and stuff, it's was completely nonsensical because people are irrational when they're afraid.

This was broadcast on CNN...
More irrelevant waffle. Lots of people did silly things early in the pandemic, when anxiety was high and the nature of the virus (i.e., that there's no significant fomite transmission) was largely unknown. Nobody here is saying it's necessary to wipe down vegetables.

You argued against lockdowns on the grounds that they shut some nutritional and immunisation programmes in a handful of Asian countries. To which, that article line is totally irrelevant, and the argument itself falls apart as soon as you look at the countless countries that locked down without ending such programmes.
 

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It would really be cool if you would stop making up stuff and then purposefully not responding when I prove you wrong. You literally just said it was because Trump didn't want to do anything about covid is why the US "let covid in" when it was both the sides saying not to worry about covid, yet you ignore that because it doesn't agree with your political narrative.
You wrote this... straight after you wrote this

Literally in reference to the very thing you just said "not going to last". You don't have to say a vaccine provides basic temporary protection because it's literally basic common sense. Also, when people ask about vaccine protections, they aren't talking about protections just for a month, they are talking about years and all the way up to a lifetime.

The common cold is so easily transmissible because it's airborne... Of course it's, in theory, possible to catch a cold in just a minute of close contact. In theory and actual real world results are usually 2 different things. You simply don't catch colds from going to the store in any significant manner. And then people during covid were wiping down groceries and stuff, it's was completely nonsensical because people are irrational when they're afraid.

This was broadcast on CNN...


No, vaccination has no chance of stopping outbreaks at all. Even if you literally vaccinated every person in the world at the same time and made it so everyone had a month of immunity all at the same time, covid still would've been around and had outbreaks (because it was in animal reservoirs as well). Vaccination (in covid) is only to suppress severe disease and nothing else.

It is...
Utterly fascinating.

You have a story that vaccines and lockdowns are more dangerous than COVID. This is a lie. A political narrative that got hundreds of thousands killed as well as massive detriments to community, security and the economy

It's 2026. It's been six years.
 

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You have a story that vaccines and lockdowns are more dangerous than COVID.
Unlikely Phoenix thinks that, the argument is not about lockdowns being worse than COVID, only that lockdowns could cause more damage than they mitigate. Those are only equivalent arguments if you think lockdowns prevent nearly all deaths from viruses, which you are the aberration for thinking.
 

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Unlikely Phoenix thinks that
Phoenix did in fact argue that "the vax is more dangerous to certain groups than actually getting covid".

the argument is not about lockdowns being worse than COVID, only that lockdowns could cause more damage than they mitigate.
Most of the time, that's the case. Though here he posted a "cost-benefit analysis" that argued the harm of lockdown in Canada outweighed not only the harm it mitigated, but also the entirety of the harm of covid to that country, and even the harm it would have done if there had been no lockdown.

((The basis for concluding such is asinine, but that's the argument the report makes))
 

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No one with lots of power believes in free speech anymore. Got it.

One wonders how much they formerly did believe in free speech, or how much they thought they'd lose if they didn't pretend they did.
 

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Unlikely Phoenix thinks that, the argument is not about lockdowns being worse than COVID, only that lockdowns could cause more damage than they mitigate. Those are only equivalent arguments if you think lockdowns prevent nearly all deaths from viruses, which you are the aberration for thinking.
What Phoenixmgs is talking about is, if taken as he says it, would possibly lead to a few thousand deaths in the US. What I'm talking about led to hundreds of thousands of deaths. I'm willing to say it could only be 600, 000 or 700, 000 unnecessary deaths. If you do the math, it could be as high as 1, 000, 000. I was already discounting hundreds of thousands of deaths because I was already thinking about how not all of them would be preventable

That does not mean that there aren't problems with lockdowns. I have many criticisms of Australia's lockdown... But just because I have criticisms, that does not mean that it wasn't the best option at the time. The person who implemented the Australian lockdowns was one of the worst leaders Australia has had. I still say it was the best option. I had to support someone I do not like for the betterment of my country. Phoenix cannot do this

The problem is that Phoenix was wrong, and many of the deaths that he claimed would happen under a lockdown did not happen. I don't mean that they went back to normal rates, I mean they were less than the average year. Most of the criticisms he has about lockdowns are factually untrue. I'm very willing to discuss real world problems, not made-up alternative facts. He kept on going on about how Biden would force vaccinations onto people without realising that Trump, through inaction, forced the US population into a medical crisis, which forced millions of people into medical debt, which forced businesses to close. He never saw COVID as a real threat or thought about the damage it was doing, and he changed the definitions of words to fit this narrative

In short, he put his own beliefs about his own country, and the country paid dearly