Funny events in anti-woke world

Dwarvenhobble

Is on the Gin
May 26, 2020
4,755
526
118
"We don't need to actually be honest, we just need to be more convincing liars."
I mean isn't that the Democrat Policy these days like how much Cuomo's scandals were covered up or hell even how Harvey Weinstein was pushed as a Champion for women when backing Hillary?

Hell how about how everyone saying Hillary was ill was just a conspiracy theorist?

The thing is just to shout it louder and shame, attack and shutdown anyone saying otherwise.
 

AnxietyProne

Elite Member
Jul 13, 2021
510
365
68
Country
United States
"We don't need to actually be honest, we just need to be more convincing liars."
Well he wasn't WRONG...and quite frankly, the right wing has out maneuvered the political left at almost every turn in the propaganda wars. Having the help of the internet youth l33t hasn't hurt either.

I mean isn't that the Democrat Policy these days like how much Cuomo's scandals were covered up or hell even how Harvey Weinstein was pushed as a Champion for women when backing Hillary?

Hell how about how everyone saying Hillary was ill was just a conspiracy theorist?

The thing is just to shout it louder and shame, attack and shutdown anyone saying otherwise.
Well hey, if Donald Trump can be held up as literal Jesus (ask for me evidence of this being said. I dare you.), then Weinstein I guess can be an advocate for women's rights.

The thing is just to shout it louder and shame, attack and shutdown anyone saying otherwise.
Hey, it's worked for Roger Stone, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Alex Jones and David Wohl...okay, Wohl actually slipped up and is facing charges, but if Trump gets back in office guarantee he's going to get pardoned.
 
Last edited:

XsjadoBlayde

Intersectional Multidimensional Pansexual Alliance
Apr 29, 2020
1,847
1,676
118
Britannialand
Am now wondering how connected these networks of grifts are to a central grift coordination group. Trump totally gave every wannabe con-merchant the confidence that they really can fool ppl into throwing away their cash with the absolute minimum of effort. The increase in the amount of sleazy sniveling opportunists crawling out the woodwork now is somewhat impressive in scope, if not existentially sobering.


A network of fake accounts on Telegram is posing as right-leaning Hollywood celebrities in order to promote a collectible coin to QAnon followers.

The accounts, which falsely claim to belong to high-profile figures such as Mel Gibson, Sylvester Stallone, and Clint Eastwood, have collectively amassed more than 100,000 followers over the last six months.

The scam preys on conspiracy theorists by drawing them in with promises that secret information regarding corruption and pedophilia in Hollywood will soon be released. Yet once each Telegram channel builds a significant following, users are instead met with an increasing number of posts about a gold and silver coins featuring former President Donald Trump.

One of the most popular accounts is @MelGibsonOfficial, which has amassed over 30,000 subscribers since launching in March. The account spent its first few months sharing posts praising Trump before switching to QAnon-themed topics regarding elite child-eating pedophile rings.

“Hollywood is drenched in innocent children’s blood. The references to pedophilia and cannibalism have always been there, but for years they cryptic or symbolic,” the account wrote last month. “I was introduced to these practices in the early 2000s and was threatened with serious repercussions should I ever speak out. And, I don’t just mean my career, I mean my life was threatened, my family’s life would be in danger.”

While the average internet user might easily see through an account proclaiming to be run by one of Hollywood’s most famous actors and directors, countless subscribers appear convinced that Gibson is actually on Telegram.

“Thank you for your courage to speak out when NO ONE would Mel!” one user responded. “I look forward to your future movies that will inspire and unite humanity.”

Alan Nierob, a representative for Gibson, told the Daily Dot that the account in question was not associated with their client.


“Mr. Gibson, nor anyone associated with him, has anything to do with this account,” Nierob said.


A fake Mel Gibson post


After building up a large subscriber base, the account began promoting other fake accounts that follow the exact same script.

Users were encouraged to subscribe to the “official” accounts for Stallone, Eastwood, and even deceased figures such as Michael Jackson and John F. Kennedy Jr.

Unsurprisingly, Michelle Bega, a representative for Stallone, likewise confirmed that the actor was not on Telegram.

“Mr. Stallone is officially not involved with Telegram,” Bega said. “This is not his account, he does not post on the Telegram site. The account is counterfeit.”


Between late August and early September is when the accounts began hawking the “Official Trump Coin.” The posts compared the physical coin to cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin and Ethereum.

“It’s true, everything said about these coins and their skyrocket to $400 is true!” the post says. “Those who will have these Trump coins will be treated differently than the others!”

A link to purchase the Official Trump Coins redirects to a web shop for the website Raw Conservative Opinions. The coins are listed as “free” with users allegedly only having to pay for shipping and handling.


While the website features endless 5-star reviews of questionable validity, a profile for the company on the website for the Better Business Bureau is filled with complaints over “Made in China” labels featured on the coin’s packaging.

The Daily Dot sent numerous inquiries to Raw Conservative Options to ask whether it was aware of or involved with the fake Telegram accounts but did not receive a reply.

It remains unclear how many coins have been sold.

Either way, conspiracy theorists appear convinced that big name celebrities on Telegram are providing them secret intel on Hollywood.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BrawlMan

BrawlMan

Lover of beat'em ups.
Legacy
Apr 3, 2020
11,976
4,258
118
Detroit, Michigan
Country
United States of America
Gender
Male
Am now wondering how connected these networks of grifts are to a central grift coordination group. Trump totally gave every wannabe con-merchant the confidence that they really can fool ppl into throwing away their cash with the absolute minimum of effort. The increase in the amount of sleazy sniveling opportunists crawling out the woodwork now is somewhat impressive in scope, if not existentially sobering.

Since those QAnon followers are dumb enough to follow such stupid schemes, they have no one to blame but themselves. I hope they don't all drive themselves bankrupt from those donations. That would be a tragedy.
 
  • Like
Reactions: XsjadoBlayde

XsjadoBlayde

Intersectional Multidimensional Pansexual Alliance
Apr 29, 2020
1,847
1,676
118
Britannialand
The religious community he was heavily involved in putting up a wall of silence is extremely eyebrow raising, it cannot be stressed enough the modern qanon and other conspiracy movements have found welcoming homes in American evangelical circles especially, who gleefully eat up the "good vs evil invisible war" narrative usually embracing violent rhetoric while simultaneously claiming to harbour "endless love." This information only demands further surgical investigation, it isn't a good sign no matter which way you slice it.


At 1 p.m. on Thursday, in courtroom 880 on the 8th floor of the Roybal Federal Building in downtown LA, Matthew Coleman made his first public appearance exactly one month after he allegedly murdered his two young children in Mexico by shooting them with a spear gun.

Coleman, 40, a deeply devout Christian who taught kids surfing in Santa Barbara, told FBI agents that he carried out the heinous crimes because he was “enlightened” by QAnon and other conspiracies and he believed his children were going to “grow into monsters.” Killing them was the only way to “save the world.”

This week a federal grand jury indicted Coleman on two counts of foreign first-degree murder of U.S. nationals, charges that could potentially carry the death penalty.

“There are no words to describe the profound grief that envelops an entire community when a child is murdered,” acting U.S. Attorney Randy Grossman, said in a press release announcing the indictment. “The Department of Justice is determined to achieve justice for these victims and their loved ones.”

The indictment, reviewed by VICE News, put it bluntly, accusing Coleman of committing the offense “in an especially heinous, cruel, and depraved manner in that it involved torture and serious physical abuse.”

Grossman said he has yet to decide if the state will pursue the death penalty in this case.

Coleman’s appearance in court Thursday in front of U.S. Magistrate Judge Michael Wilner was essentially a formality. During the brief hearing, prosecutors sought to have the proceedings relocated to the Southern District of California.

As part of that process, the defendant must either agree to the change or ask for an identity hearing, at which the U.S. must prove that the defendant is the same person named in the indictment.

On Thursday, Coleman’s lawyer asked for such a hearing, which is now scheduled to take place on Sept. 21.

It is unclear why Coleman’s legal team, who did not respond to VICE News’ questions, asked for this hearing, but it is normally used by individuals who claim they’re not the same person who’s being accused of the crime in another jurisdiction.

While the decision appears strange, it is also fitting for a crime allegedly committed by a person who appeared completely detached from the public persona projected by Coleman.

In the days and weeks since Coleman took his two children in his car and traveled to a resort in Mexico before brutally murdering them, the community of Santa Barbara has effectively put up a wall of silence and refused to talk about how one of their own could do something so horrific.

Coleman has lived in Santa Barbara virtually his entire life, and from the outside he appeared to have an idyllic existence. Surfing, his passion, was also his job; he ran a surf school with his wife. His Christian faith was central to everything he did, and he even led a Christian surf group.

His social media accounts projected a life filled with happiness and love, surrounded by both friends and family.

He regularly posted pictures of his wife Abby and their two children: 2-year-old Kaleo and 10-month-old Roxy. The captions on the photos said how lucky he felt to have been blessed with such a loving family.

But following last month’s awful events, a closer inspection of those posts shows possible warning signs about Coleman’s radicalization and descent into conspiracies.

“What an amazing son, so fun to watch him slowly become all that he was created to be, the sound of Heaven's dove,” Coleman wrote on Instagram under a picture of his son. “One who awakens people to the fact that they are eternally chosen, accepted and cherished by a loving father, a freedom ringer, and a joy bringer.”

Less than a year ago, on the day his wife, Abby, gave birth to their daughter Roxy, Coleman wrote about having visions during the birth.

“I kept feeling the sense that she was going to be born at a very pivotal time in history, and that she would represent a dawn or even an awakening, to years of great blessing for our family, and nation,” Coleman wrote on Instagram.

At the time these messages likely didn’t raise any red flags among Coleman’s family and friends, but following his admissions to FBI agents last month that “he was enlightened by QAnon and Illuminati conspiracy theories and was receiving visions and signs revealing that his wife possessed serpent DNA and had passed it onto his children” these comments are clear signs that Coleman was was becoming radicalized by some conspiracy theories.

VICE News attempted to contact dozens of people who knew Matthew Coleman, but none of them would speak openly about him, his faith, or what may have led to him allegedly murder his children.

But one of them did speak out in a Facebook group dedicated to the Coleman case.
In the post, Santa Barbara resident Helen Rose said she “grew up in the same household with him” after his parents took her in and that she viewed Coleman as a brother. She believes that he was suffering from some psychiatric condition that was allowed to fester in a community that accepted such behavior as normal.

“I believe that Matt has an undiagnosed mental illness to an extreme that may have been recognized in other communities, but the community he was an integral part of, the fundamentalist Christian evangelical community, seeing ‘signs and interpreting messages from God’ is accepted and encouraged,” Rose wrote in the Facebook post, reviewed by VICE News.

This view was backed up by another person who knew Coleman and who spoke anonymously to the QAnon Anonymous podcast recently.

“Ordinarily if someone says they are receiving visions or revelations or whatever people might think it was odd or concerning, but in a narcissistic privileged bubble he has always lived in—Santa Barbara—it made him unique and interesting,” they said.

One Santa Barbara resident who knew the Colemans and has attended some of the same churches, confirmed this view of the evangelical community in Santa Barbara, and told VICE News that the radicalization is happening not at Sunday services, but in private meeting rooms and even in people’s homes.

“It's happening in people’s homes, it's going out of the church into the homes. And these people are becoming extremely radicalized. It’s not just my mother-in-law who’s completely lost her mind, it’s not just my brother-in-laws and sister-in-laws, it’s the nephews and nieces, the children are being heavily indoctrinated as well. It’s very bad for the entire community, and this is not Christian.”

The religious community in Santa Barbara is “very insular, very radical and very much following the neo-Christian movement,” referring to a new brand of evangelicalism that emphasizes speaking in tongues, hands-on healing, and receiving visions.

Rose said that Coleman was always “fanatically Christian” and that he would read his Bible alone for hours even as a teenager. However she added that this was never seen as something to worry about in the community because Christianity was so widely accepted.

Rose claims that some of Coleman’s friends did know he had begun looking into QAnon conspiracies online, but none raised any red flags because they never believed it would reach the point of him committing violence.

People who knew Coleman, but who did not want to speak on the record told VICE News he had attended half a dozen Santa Barbara churches, including Calvary Chapel, Isla Vista, Montecito Covenant, Veronica Springs, Reality Carpinteria, and Anthem.
None of the churches would put forward someone to talk to VICE News about Coleman.

John Mullen, one of the leaders of Veronica Springs, said the Coleman’s hadn’t attended the church in a couple of years, and yet the church recently held several events to support Abby Coleman, including an online fundraising campaign, according to an email sent out to parishioners and reviewed by VICE News.

Calvary Chapel’s pastor Tommy Schneider told VICE News he couldn’t speak about Coleman’s radicalization because he was “so far away from intimacy with Matthew’s life that I have no idea really where he was.”

And yet in the days following Coleman’s arrest last month, Schneider addressed the issue during a service at his church, saying: “He's taken care of your children, walked in your circles, been the best man at some of your weddings. This is a person that we know.”

Mark Seversen, the lead pastor at Montecito Covenant Church, denied a claim made to VICE News by one of Coleman’s acquaintances that he had been attending the church recently.

“He spent some of his growing up years here but has not attended since high school,” Seversen said.

The other churches did not respond to VICE News’ requests for comment.

QAnon, which has been gaining traction within evangelical churches recently, is a conspiracy movement with many different strands, but central to all of those is the deeply held believe that a group of Democrat and Hollywood elites is running a global child sex-trafficking ring.

For Coleman, those claims made in online forums and videos would have simply appeared to back up his experiences in the real world: According to the website of his Lovewater surf school, he has spent years working closely with the Hope Refuge, a nonprofit in Santa Barbara that helps the victims of sex trafficking.

The founder of Hope Refuge is Bob Ryan, who is also the pastor at the Veronica Springs church that Coleman once attended. Ryan did not respond to several emails and phone calls from VICE News, while Hope Refuge did not respond to email inquiries.

One other church Coleman has been linked to is Bethel, a neo-charismatic megachurch in Redding, California. The church has been accused of being a cult, and its leaders, Bill and Beni Johnson, have courted controversy in the past, including their efforts to bring a young child back to life.

Sources speaking to VICE News said that they were aware that leaders in some of the churches attended by Coleman have visited Bethel and Coleman and his wife were both following the Johnsons and other leaders from Bethel on their Instagram and Facebook accounts.

Something led Coleman to drive his children 250 miles from their home, their mother and their idyllic life on the California coast and allegedly murder them in cold blood. And whatever that was, it’s terrifying some residents in Santa Barbara right now who are worried that unless something changes, it will happen again.

“Once you see somebody within the QAnon movement act the way that this person acted, it's a social contagion and it makes me worried about the other children in our community,” one Santa Barbara resident told VICE News.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BrawlMan

Silvanus

Elite Member
Legacy
Apr 26, 2020
6,511
2,084
118
Country
United Kingdom
Hell how about how everyone saying Hillary was ill was just a conspiracy theorist?
The illness stuff might have played better if the claim wasn't coming from supporters of an obese man with severe senility, memory lapses and narcissistic personality disorder.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BrawlMan

The Rogue Wolf

Stealthy Carnivore
Legacy
Apr 3, 2020
12,632
2,677
118
Stalking the Digital Tundra
Gender
✅
The illness stuff might have played better if the claim wasn't coming from supporters of an obese man with severe senility, memory lapses and narcissistic personality disorder.
Hush. Obviously stuttering is a sign of dementia, but using words like "covfefe" and "hamberder" are proof of genius intellect.

(Also my spellchecker accepts "covfefe" and I really don't understand the world anymore.)
 

Asita

Answer Hazy, Ask Again Later
Legacy
Apr 4, 2020
2,891
555
118
Country
USA
Gender
Male
The illness stuff might have played better if the claim wasn't coming from supporters of an obese man with severe senility, memory lapses and narcissistic personality disorder.
It's also worth remembering that, despite Dwarven's downplaying, what he's referring to wasn't the suggestion that Hillary might be sick, but rather that she was 'obviously' so sick as to make her unfit for office.

Specific claims included amateur diagnoses claiming that she obviously suffered from dysphasia, fabrication of medical records claiming that she suffered from dementia and retrograde amnesia, implications that she must have been suffering from some form of brain damage, speculation that her health was so bad as to require a neurologist escort ready to offer on-site care, that she must have been suffering from strokes and was having seizures in public, and that she was too frail and lacked the physical stamina required for political office.

That is a very different animal than simply claiming that Hillary "was ill".
 
Last edited:

Agema

You have no authority here, Jackie Weaver
Legacy
Apr 3, 2020
7,370
4,592
118
That is a very different animal than simply claiming that Hillary "was ill".
Quite; being ill is something that happens to just about everyone on the planet at least once a year, and usually much more often.

Admittedly, being ill to the point of collapse is a little worrying - except we're talking about a 70-year-old under a great deal of stress and working very hard, so we might be more forgiving about someone pushing themselves to the limit of endurance.

As for that fat fool Trump, for all the talk of how much he works, I suspect he doesn't do that much. And indeed, the stories of how much time he spend watching TV whilst "at work" speaks volumes. A person is technically "at work" if they spend 9-5 standing by a water cooler chatting to everyone in the office, but it's not exactly spending 9-5 staring at a computer screen sorting out a massive and complex problem in the software code they're working on, is it?
 

Dwarvenhobble

Is on the Gin
May 26, 2020
4,755
526
118
The illness stuff might have played better if the claim wasn't coming from supporters of an obese man with severe senility, memory lapses and narcissistic personality disorder.
Unfit is a bit different to actually ill and oh yeh they were fucking right Hillary was ill and even after collapsing they tried to play it off as her totally not being ill. They lied and lied and lied until the point it was so damn obvious public sentiment was turning against them. Oh and the funniest part of it all. Hillary gained approval rating while ill away from the campaign trail

Hush. Obviously stuttering is a sign of dementia, but using words like "covfefe" and "hamberder" are proof of genius intellect.

(Also my spellchecker accepts "covfefe" and I really don't understand the world anymore.)
Amazing to see see people trying to deflect from or pretend Hillary didn't come down with pneumonia so badly she collapsed and still tried to pretend it was because she got sunstroke.
 

AnxietyProne

Elite Member
Jul 13, 2021
510
365
68
Country
United States
Unfit is a bit different to actually ill and oh yeh they were fucking right Hillary was ill and even after collapsing they tried to play it off as her totally not being ill. They lied and lied and lied until the point it was so damn obvious public sentiment was turning against them. Oh and the funniest part of it all. Hillary gained approval rating while ill away from the campaign trail



Amazing to see see people trying to deflect from or pretend Hillary didn't come down with pneumonia so badly she collapsed and still tried to pretend it was because she got sunstroke.
That's a lot different than the radio pundits screaming "She's gonna DIEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
 

Silvanus

Elite Member
Legacy
Apr 26, 2020
6,511
2,084
118
Country
United Kingdom
Unfit is a bit different to actually ill and oh yeh they were fucking right Hillary was ill and even after collapsing they tried to play it off as her totally not being ill. They lied and lied and lied until the point it was so damn obvious public sentiment was turning against them. Oh and the funniest part of it all. Hillary gained approval rating while ill away from the campaign trail
Right. But the opposing candidate was manifestly much more physically and mentally unfit, scarcely able to stand properly, obese, and unable to remember his own sentences from moments before. So what's the other option? We have someone who had some trouble on the stairs because she's elderly? OK then.

I'd rather have someone frail than someone unable to string a sentence together, or scarcely able to speak their own native language, like D. Trump.

Of course, there is a third option, which is to not favour such ancient candidates altogether. Joe Biden clearly has some difficulty with cognitive function as well, memory lapses, etc. The average age for the leader of the "free world" needs to lower by a decade.
 

Dwarvenhobble

Is on the Gin
May 26, 2020
4,755
526
118
Right. But the opposing candidate was manifestly much more physically and mentally unfit, scarcely able to stand properly, obese, and unable to remember his own sentences from moments before. So what's the other option? We have someone who had some trouble on the stairs because she's elderly? OK then.

I'd rather have someone frail than someone unable to string a sentence together, or scarcely able to speak their own native language, like D. Trump.

Of course, there is a third option, which is to not favour such ancient candidates altogether. Joe Biden clearly has some difficulty with cognitive function as well, memory lapses, etc. The average age for the leader of the "free world" needs to lower by a decade.
Such as?

Sorry but Trump wasn't seen visibly ill or collapsing.

Also didn't Hillary fall down the stairs previously and break a bone?
 

Dwarvenhobble

Is on the Gin
May 26, 2020
4,755
526
118

Silvanus

Elite Member
Legacy
Apr 26, 2020
6,511
2,084
118
Country
United Kingdom
Such as?

Sorry but Trump wasn't seen visibly ill or collapsing.
Trump's height and weight from 2019 indicate obesity (though not morbid obesity). Infamously, his doctor from the in-office physical admitted that the President dictated what to report. That was the now-notorious "most healthy ever" report, which is very characteristic Trumpish boasting.

When standing, it's been spotted that his stance is highly unusual: his centre of gravity is quite a bit in front of his base on the ground, as he leans significantly forward, and appears to be unaware of how his arms hang. His memory lapses and problems with speech are well documented, as he contradicts sentences that he himself gave mere minutes ago, and commonly uses words which are not actual words (hamberder etc).
 

Dwarvenhobble

Is on the Gin
May 26, 2020
4,755
526
118
Trump's height and weight from 2019 indicate obesity (though not morbid obesity). Infamously, his doctor from the in-office physical admitted that the President dictated what to report. That was the now-notorious "most healthy ever" report, which is very characteristic Trumpish boasting.

When standing, it's been spotted that his stance is highly unusual: his centre of gravity is quite a bit in front of his base on the ground, as he leans significantly forward, and appears to be unaware of how his arms hang. His memory lapses and problems with speech are well documented, as he contradicts sentences that he himself gave mere minutes ago, and commonly uses words which are not actual words (hamberder etc).
Again evidence he was actually ill and unwell at the time, come on this isn't hard. Not evidence of potential future issues. Evidence he was unwell in the there and then.

I mean if we're going to have a go about speaking you're just handing the Republicans Obama umming as a sign of mental decline or him being unfit too.
Hell look at Joe Biden at present jesus he's making Trump look insanely mentally competent so far,
 

The Rogue Wolf

Stealthy Carnivore
Legacy
Apr 3, 2020
12,632
2,677
118
Stalking the Digital Tundra
Gender
✅

Huzzah! You provided proof for once! I'm so very proud of you.

Now here's a question: If she could get sick like that, then recover quickly, does that mean her constitution is poor, or excellent?